It is a typo, and really the number of cells doesn't matter worth a damn. The only thing you need to care about is the WHr rating. Cells can be wildly different sizes, and the biggest reason to have more cells is to get a higher output from the battery, not longer life.
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I'm having an issue with Windows 8.1. Within the last couple days, some of my Metro apps are not working. If I try and use the Metro Internet Explorer, it takes me back to the desktop. If I try and use Hyper by YouTube as soon as I try and play a video, it crashed to desktop.
Anybody have an idea of what is going on?
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Collective Wisdom) Here are my notes taken from all previous posts regarding drivers
Uninstalled the Dell Touchpad software/drivers and installed the regular Synaptics drivers from their website - CPU usage when using the touchpad from the touchpad process is down to 0-1% instead of 3-5%! Hopefully that will help out battery life a bit.
Secondly, has anyone else tried using Firefox with this laptop? IE and Chrome are fine, but for some reason, Firefox is very sluggish/laggy. Was wondering if it's just my computer?
Woohoo! I don't know if this will improve the battery life, but it got rid of all touchpad woes I had. Although you will lose access to some features (the ones which are gimmicky and don't really work well, such as gestures), you will gain many features that are actually useful. For anyone having troubles with touchpad, I highly recommend to do this. Thanks!
Now, the only problem left is battery life. I noticed that Dell recommended power profile is not aggressive at all -- I am hoping that more aggressive configuration will help....
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I did remove the Dell trackpad driver and install the one from Synaptics because I was having the corner click issue that someone else reported earlier in the thread.
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I did update the BIOS last night to the A01 release. There are also new audio drivers out but I didn't update yet.
The biggest issue I'm seeing with this laptop is actually that the Dell software keeps identifying it as an L521X and not a 9530. I guess they have to make some tweaks to their site.
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I tested 5Ghz 802.11AC a few minutes ago and had the same 10 megabit issue. The connection speed was very unstable as well. I went to intel's site and downloaded the drivers directly from them and installed it. 65 megabit download, 25 up, no speed stability issues.
Going to take some pictures of the display vs the MBP now.
Intel has the newest 32 and 64 bit drivers labeled as just 32 bit at the download center. The 32 and 64 bit driver are there though. I downloaded Wireless_16.5.3_e164.exe to get access to the extra monitoring tools.
If you open the Intel Advanced Statistics software, it will show you the wireless channels and bitrates being used in real time. It might help with sorting out some of the issues. In an area at work known to have really bad wireless reception, I could see that downloads were coming in over the 2x48 Mbps band, but I was only transmitting over the 1x12 Mbps band.
The next time I have the bottom off the M3800, I will pull one of the antenna wires and see if the Intel Manual Diagnostics Tool can see that there is an error. I know it would be rare for an antenna to not be hooked up, but the new connections are small.
Will also try to find an Aruba AP that will go faster than 170 megabits. Might have to buy an AC band router.
There has to be a reason that some people are seeing slow speeds and others are only limited by how fast their network is.
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How easy is it to update all drivers? Can it be done through dell web site?
Dell made it pretty easy. You can go there - view all the drivers - select what you want to download - download the batch and install from the webpage. Pretty slick except driver updates require system reboots and then you loose you page. But it's all on the disk for you.
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Dell made it pretty easy. You can go there - view all the drivers - select what you want to download - download the batch and install from the webpage. Pretty slick except driver updates require system reboots and then you loose you page. But it's all on the disk for you.
I checked off 27 downloads, it then asked where I wanted to save them? they were all .exe files, so I need to save them to my computer then run each individually? sorry...im new and not very good at this..
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Would anyone recommend installing the Synaptics drivers from their website and replacing the default one that came with the XPS?
A few people commented a while back that this seemed to resolve some intermittent issues even though you lost a couple features (though I think you gained some as well). I tried searching but couldn't find the actual post. UPDATE: Jump back to Page 34, the discussion starts there and drops off, then resumes around 46.
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I'm having a colossal problem with my wi-fi and I'm about at my wit's end. I'm transferring over all my documents from my old laptop to my new one using shared folders over wi-fi. Slow, but it's the best option I have. Problem is, the copy transfer will run for a while, then I'll watch as the speed quickly takes a nosedive and I suddenly have no internet access. Sometimes the wi-fi icon shows limited connectivity, but sometimes it doesn't. I've had this happen as frequently as every couple minutes to as long as every few hours. The only thing that fixes it is running the troubleshooter, which resets the wi-fi, or by manually turning wi-fi off and back on again.
I don't even know how to begin to diagnose this. It's happened a couple times even when I haven't been file sharing. Do I have a bad piece of hardware? I've re-installed the drivers and run all windows updates. Really need help... thanks!
Try getting the latest drivers off of Intel's page, not Dell's? And of course updating your router firmware couldn't hurt if you haven't already.
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I'm using the Intel driver instead of the Dell one and I have zero WiFi problems
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You should upgrade to the 16.5.3.6 drivers on the Intel site ASAP if you are having issues. Seems to be specific to certain routers. You might also make sure your router firmware is up to date.
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The wifi has dropped at least 5 times in the 24 hours that I've had it. It connected just fine out of the box and gets good speeds when it works, but it will lose connection and then not reconnect unless I run Windows diagnostics.
Grab the latest AC9260 driver only package from intel.com. This solved my WiFi dropping issue completely.
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Notice intel just released 16.6 driver update for the 9260.
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Grab the latest AC9260 driver only package from intel.com. This solved my WiFi dropping issue completely.
Honest question... Shouldn't I be downloading the latest AC7260 drivers since thats the wireless card in the XPS15?
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Tekjunke suggested I download the latest AC9260 drivers but the wireless card on the XPS15 is AC7260 .... my questions was in regards to downloading the 7260 driver over the 9260 driver.
There is no such thing as the 9260, probs a typo.
So yes, grab the 7260 drivers off the intel site.
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You should put that post on the first page and then whenever there's an update, people can just get it from there. Thanks for the effort (I don't have an xps though but hey)
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After a few days with my XPS15, I'm very happy about this machine. The only issue is the electrical noise when the CPU is working. At first, I wasn't sure about the display because of the glass, but now, I can't look at my "old" 1080p 24" desktop screen without thinking it looks ugly! This screen is great! I was wondering about the Dragon Voice assist described on the dell page. It looks like it isn't installed and I can't find where to download it. Has anybody used it?
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I wonder if XPS15 could have some throttling issue (some user has reported some hint of throttling) while it seems that the M3800 does not have.
I do this consideration because the gap between XPS15 and M3800 on 3DMark11 is very big 2400 vs 3000, so maybe GT750m has a clock much higher than K1100m which implies a bigger heat generation than K1100m.
Moreover no one has reported the clocks of GT750m and K1100m, it could be useful.
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The audio quality is actually very good at low volume and by low volume I mean I have wndows currently playing at 18/100 and it's plenty loud. For a laptop, these speakers can play very loud. I listen to music on it at about 30-40 tops. Bass is lacking, but you're not going to get much out of a laptop w/o a dedicated woofer, and yes there are laptops that have those. There are quite a few controls in the MaxxAudio drivers that I need to mess with.
The display is excellent. Again, once you turn off vivid mode it's 95% of the MBP's display. Calibrating it brings it to 99%. The only thing I would say is better about the MBP is the backlight implementation and you won't even notice that if you turn the brightness down to 60% It's overwhelming higher than that anyway.
I haven't had any issues with the touch screen. I don't use it much but when I do, it works flawlessly.
The trackpad isn't as foolproof. I'm getting used to it, but IMHO, I shouldn't have to. I haven't tried the synaptics drivers, but then I'm not having the issues others are mentioning about the corners not working.
If you're trying to decide if you should buy this laptop, I'd say go for it if you don't mind the potential defects from being an early adopter. You might get lucky like I did and only have the coil hum issue. Otherwise, I'd say wait just a little longer to see if Dell can resolve the initial issues quickly. -
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http://www.mersenne.info/gimps/p95v279.win64.zip
http://www.geeks3d.com/downloads/201307/FurMark_1.11.0_Setup.exe
http://download1us.softpedia.com/dl...5/100189486/software/system/info/hw64_426.exe
Before to run HWinfo, launch something that run on GT750m, for example Furmark just to be sure that GT750m will be detected.
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Hi,
here is the difference between GT750M and K1100M:
gt750m:
GPU Name: GK107
GPU Variant: N14P-GT
Process Size: 28 nm
Transistors: 1,270 million
Die Size: 118 mm²
Released: Jan 9th, 2013
Bus Interface: PCIe 3.0 x16
GPU Clock: 941 MHz
Memory Clock: 1250 MHz, 5000 MHz effective
Memory Size: 2048 MB
Memory Type: GDDR5
Memory Bus: 128 bit
Bandwidth: 80.0 GB/s
Shading Units: 384
TMUs: 32
ROPs: 16
SMX Count: 2
Pixel Rate: 7.53 GPixel/s
Texture Rate: 30.1 GTexel/s
Floating-point performance: 722.7 GFLOPS
Slot Width: MXM Module
TDP: 50 W
DirectX: 11.0
OpenGL: 4.4
OpenCL: 1.1
Shader Model: 5.0
Compute Capability: CUDA 3.0
k1100m:
GPU Name: GK107
Process Size: 28 nm
Transistors: 1,270 million
Die Size: 118 mm²
Released: Jan 23rd, 2013
Bus Interface: MXM-A (3.0)
GPU Clock: 706 MHz
Memory Clock: 700 MHz, 2800 MHz effective
Memory Size: 2048 MB
Memory Type: GDDR5
Memory Bus: 128 bit
Bandwidth: 44.8 GB/s
Shading Units: 384
TMUs: 32
ROPs: 16
SMX Count: 2
Pixel Rate: 5.65 GPixel/s
Texture Rate: 22.6 GTexel/s
Floating-point performance: 542.2 GFLOPS
Slot Width: MXM Module
TDP: 45 W
DirectX: 11.0
OpenGL: 4.4
OpenCL: 1.1
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thanks a lot to all the recents owners for ur feedbacks !
i was wondering if i have to go with rMBP (base 256gb/8go) or the xps max (i have 2k budget) and i think its gonna be the dell.
rMBP having problems too : yellow tint, creaking n stuff.
my questions for the premium xps :
-is there any option to "not activate" the touchscreen and save 1or2h battery?
-is it possible to not activate the gpu?
-on youtubes vids 1080p or higher not much fan noises?
-how about the heat?
-screen is super reflective if light behind us?
-how much time to boot approx?
-r u happy with this 512g ssd speed?
-battery life is approx in idle 6hours right? on vids/stream u think i can split this time?
thanks a lot guys.
for thoses who already bought r they considering to swtich for a rmbp?
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Anyone else notice that after uninstalling the Dell touch-pad drivers and installing the Synaptics one, you no longer have "two finger right click"?
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Question: Is anyone's power connector part kinda loose? It just wiggles around easily.
I don't have the screen moving at the bottom when you move the top corner.
Also thanks for the high DPI Chrome suggestion, it now shows your tabs in Chrome properly (although I did lose my bookmarks in migration).
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Is there any place to stream QHD+ or 4K content to kinda test drive the screen and video capability?
On temps, outside weather currently 11C (Bing) or 17C (Google), my CPU went to 80C, and all I've got open is Chrome (20 tabs), not actively playing Youtube on it, and a chat app in metro.
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Any home users out there who need the occasional Ethernet, I got a cheap $3 Chinese one off eBay, and speeds I get I'm quite happy with, on par with direct Ethernet on my old laptop.
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WHr is the capacity of the battery, ie. how much energy the battery holds. Therefore it is also the only measurement of the battery that determines how long the laptop will last.
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Fans in action. Playing a few songs in WMP and having facebook open, temps go to 70C then fans do a mad rush and it's back to 50/60C.
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But these specs say that K1100m and GT750m have different TDP: 45W vs 50W, so if M3800 doesn't throttling then does not means that even GT750m does the same, also in these specs is not reported the value of clock in turbo mode.
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Anyway to answer some of your question,
You can definitely change the touch enable, the machine run super quiet for me and I am very impressed about that, the only time the fan every turns on for me was when I played Skyrim and it's not even loud., The screen is lke a mirror thou because it is a touch screen and that's normal, they have to make it easier to clean. Nevertheless, the screen is bright enough so you can use it outdoor. I have about 20 seconds booting time and for me, mSata ssd is fast enough. I haven't done full test on battery but I use it all day at Uni before.
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Disclaimer: I am new here and will probably sound n00bish.
Anyway, I will be a engineering college student (hopefully, fingers crossed) next year, and I think I have narrowed down my choices for a laptop to the dell m3800 and the xps 15, (or i might wait until the spring, we'll see)
My main question is about wireless performance, and the difference/difficulty of updating the drivers on these two models. I have read the many people have had to update drivers (not just wireless), and as a only somewhat computer-savvy person, would I have any trouble doing this? Additionally, are these issues confined to the xps 15 or are they present on the m3800 as well.
Another, more general question I was wondering about is which of the models would be better for an engineering student, (possibly running cad, matlab, and maybe a few games)? I know the m3800 has the quadro, but is that really needed? Also, are there any other differences other than the nvidia chip between the m3800 and the xps.
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The XPS 15 and M3800 are hardware-identical except for the GPU. The only other differences would be the configuration options available (varies by region and then home vs business store) and bundled accessories. For example, the M3800 seems to come with Win7 Pro with a Win8 Pro license as well, whereas the XPS 15 comes with Win 8.1 Core or Pro depending on whether you order it from the home or business store. The M3800 includes a USB to Ethernet adapter (apparently USB 2.0 though according to the website, not 3.0, which if true would make USB the bottleneck on a gigabit link) and also includes a dongle to allow you to use Dell AC adapters with the regular-sized connector on these machines, which have slim connectors; if you don't have a bunch of Dell AC adapters lying around, that dongle would be pointless. On the XPS 15, both of those accessories are options but not included, and of course you can get a USB 3.0 to gigabit adapter from third parties as well.
As for issues, since the hardware is identical it stands to reason that the issues would be as well. The reason you're seeing more reports on issues with the XPS 15 is quite simply that the M3800 only launched this past Thursday and deliveries haven't even begun; the only M3800 discussed here has been one that bokeh got as a pre-release sample. The XPS 15 meanwhile has been around in customers' hands for several weeks.
Bottom line: Unless you know you need the M3800 GPU or can somehow get a better deal on it compared to the XPS 15, get the XPS 15. Generally if you need the benefits of a Quadro card, you'll already know rather than needing to ask. They come into play with apps like AutoCAD, Maya/3Ds Max, etc -- but those apps also run just fine on a GeForce card. The people who get Quadros are typically those in the animation/complex modeling/scientific analysis industries where the added performance of a Quadro is worth it given the value of the work they're doing and what their employers are paying them in salary. If a Quadro were required for a college student workload, practically no college students would be able to do that work, especially Mac users where you can't get workstation-class graphics cards except in the uber-expensive Mac Pro tower.
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I think audio sounds better (at least music and TV) with the Dell max enhancements switched off. My SXPS' realtek drivers didn't have this "distortion" by default.
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A 'cell' of a battery just refers to the construction of the battery, if you will. Batteries store energy through a chemical reaction. The capacity/charge/rating/whatever you want to call it depends on the type of chemicals used and the amount of the chemicals. They can be dry chemicals or wet chemicals, the theory is still the same. In order to store/produce the amount of energy that you want, at the voltage you want, you have to have multiple reactions, added in series, to give the design capacity. That's what a cell is, its one set of the chemical reaction. So a 6 cell battery refers to 6 sets of these reactions, a 9 cell battery has 9 sets of these reactions.
A 6 cell battery, with a capacity of 91whr @ ~11v (could be 11, could be 14, depends on what the manufacturer wants) will have *EXACTLY* the same capacity as a 9 cell, 91whr, 11v battery. The difference is just in the chemical composition. You may have differences in cycle times or how long it takes to recharge the battery, but that's because the chemicals will react differently.
Otherwise they are exactly the same. It just depends on the manufacturer and what they want out of it. 6 Cell, 9 Cell, 12 Cell, doesn't make a difference.
So for everyone worrying about it being 6 cell or 9 cell, it doesn't matter. What matters is the voltage and capacity.
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thought - MBP faster due to use of PCIe vs mSATA drive 50% read and 100% read.
how do I adjust the vivid color down. where is the setting?
where is the trackpad setting?
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This is an interesting journey. At first I thought why go with MAC after being a W user for many years - too much new not worth the effort for my use, Then I get the Dell and find W8 is also a steep initial learning period from prior W versions. -
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Can someone provide a link to the dongle that will allow the old AC adapters to be used with this new XPS?
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Being an engineering student myself, personally, I haven't needed to use that many programs that would have been significantly aided by a professional workstation graphics card. I've done my fair share of CAD work, but in general it runs perfectly fine on a normal card (though my experience is on my desktop, running a 4930K and GTX680). MATLAB/Python and other maths/programming based programs don't really leverage the GPU. Considering the fact that once you graduate and start working for a company, you will be using their computers and their software licences, I wouldn't be buying a workstation laptop now, thinking that you might need it for work some time down the track.
Of course if you really want to, can afford to, and are willing to take a hit on games (anecdotally the GT750M is clocked higher with a higher TDP than the K1100M), then go ahead, they're the same laptop anyways.
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Sorry if this question has been asked before, but is the 1080p panel still IPS?
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one more before I go for a bike ride to burn off pop tarts: on the intel site for the driver update, do I want ONLY the drivers, or the PROset with the drivers...they are separate and distinct downloads
thanks all
XPS 15 (Haswell) Owner's Lounge
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