XPS 15 9560 owners thread.

This is listed among enhancements in the recent last versions. Haven't tried out, just mentioning because installing them might change something.

 

Any advice on when I could buy the Dell XPS 15 9560 for the cheapest?
When will the new XPS 15 be released?

There is currently a 100$ bonus on all orders on Dell.. I guess that kind of bonus exists 24/7/356?

 

Had no issues for me when I upgraded. Did you check your power settings after? Check your bios settings also... I had speed shift enabled before and after my flash. Went from like 1.3 to 1.7. Maybe try a reflash?
My cpu package power is around 2w at idle and my wemo says I draw around 10-12 watts from the wall full brightness.

 

A reflash wont work, it will need to be done in EFI shell again.

 

I just got my xps 9560 and it came with the Samsung PM981 My read/writes speeds are crazy!

3200MBPS read / 1900MBPS write

 

Windows is driving me INSANE. My xps has been working well with no issues. The Fall Creators update gave me a BSOD (memory management) many months ago. Since then, I have done a 'windows fresh start' to clean install and it still hasn't helped.

Windows KEEPS trying to install 1709 and every time it's a BSOD. Been probably 20 times now. I don't give a **** about this update but I want it to stop forcing it on me while still giving me necessary security updates. What can I do? Of course, if you know an easy way to get 1709 to work past the BSOD that would be appreciated too

 

Any way to enable Speed Shift? I have BIOS 1.7.0 and ThrottleStop does not seem to work.

 

1.7.0 is crap even though it patches spectre flaw. I reverted back to 1.6.2 cos it really degraded my laptop's performance. If there is a problem with it in the future, I'll just nuke it.

 

Really, what is up with the Dell Download pages? Its like a software museum where you can find outdated and obsolete drivers. With the latest scare with the Intel CPU problems you would expect to al least find updated Intel ME drivers but even those are obsolete on the Download page for the 9560. Seriously considering switching to Lenovo next time, there software updates are like night and day compared to Dells (and ther update utility actually works).

 

Are you sure? I mean, I just checked Lenovo's driver updates for the X1 Carbon, which is pretty much their top-of-the-line thin and light. Most of the drivers (including BIOS and Intel drivers) were updated last in November 2017. In total, they have 5 drivers dating 2018. Dell on the other hand, has 36 drivers dating 2018. Though, to be fair, 9 of them were uploaded today (mostly Intel, including ME drivers, which even Lenovo doesn't have currently: dating November 2017). And this also includes Dell Command utilities, of which Lenovo has far fewer.

The only major difference I can see in terms of drivers where Lenovo has an edge, are the drivers for the iGPU. Lenovo's is the 4849, which is only one driver away from the current one (4901) and much newer than whatever Dell has on their website.

Beyond that, Lenovo really isn't the be-all and end-all; let's not forget their entire scandal around the Superfish adware.

 

This is only more more reason to distrust the Dell Download page, why are drivers labeled as being 2018 when they in fact are not even close to that. That only fools the users into believing that they are the latest version when they infact are not. And it is also a lie, try to run the setup for Intel Me for example and you will notice that they are infact nowhere near updated today but are infact also from November 2017. Actually, none of those clamied 2018 drivers are infact from 2018 based on the information in the actual installer.

Edit:
For clarity, not blaiming you here, only Dell

 

Agreed. Also, some drivers had their date updated on the download page, but the version is the same as last years'.

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I'm not sure what those dates mean. Some software developers will make minor tweaks to software but not change the version number (maybe change the date). I suppose the checksum could indicate if a change is made.

For example, I installed the "Intel Management Engines Components Installer" last weekend on 13Jan2018 on my 9550. Dell recently revised the web page with "Release Date 16Jan2018" & "Last Updated 18Jan2018" Both have same file name and same SHA256 checksum value.

Intel-Management-Engine-Components-Installer_19Y3F_WIN_11.7.0.1054_A01_01.EXE

In this case I assume the files are the same but I could be wrong.

Without checking the file name and checksum, how would you know? It is sloppy in best case.

 

That's the problem, no one, including Dell, knows. And this is kind of my point. You simply can not trust these pages.

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Hi again guys, I have a question on power management to ask you this time
Considering that I don't usually stay far from power sources (i.e. plugs) for wide time time intervals, what would it be the best battery setting (set through Dell Power Management) in order to preserve and extend the battery lifespan as long as possible?
Thank you in advance!

 

Personally I set it to 50%-85%
Half charged battery - keep its lifespan very good over time
If you need your NB off the power source - 5-8h usually enough.
Just don't forget to change setting before you going to use it more than 5h far from power sources

 

somehow i doubt this actually works to not charge a battery over 80%
i have done this for 9 months now and maybe used the notebook 30 times unplugged,
and still batteryinfoview shows now 93.8% total capacity (after calibration).
usually the electronics already charge it with less power towards 100%

 

Does anybody know why the fans run at 3K+ speeds while the load and the temperatures are pretty low?



It's with the Quiet thermal setting. PCH temp is 47C.

Is there any other sensor/condition that prevents the fans from running at lower speeds? How do I know which one? It's driving me insane.

I'm using TB16 dock and U2718Q 4K external display.

 

It's the dock.

 

Not sure if the dock.
Recently I've got 3000+ rpm idling without the dock too (9550). PCH 54 degC, CPU package 40, GPU off.

 

Newer firmware seems to have PCH temps higher. XPS has a crazy low PCH threshold for fans...near 40*C on the 9550. I put a few thermal pads between the PCH and case bottom and that helped a lot. I will try another 0.5mm.

I don't have anything else heatsinked to the case bottom so that works as a decent heatsink.

 

I need an expert advise, and experts are plenty in here!

I'm changing my system from a 4K version into the FHD one. I will in 3 days have the FHD with me, and since I have gone through loads of tweaking and patching, I'm thinking of just swapping out the SSD from the 4K - which I have completely set up as I want - and given that both systems have the PCIe NVMe drive, its just going to be a direct swap.

My question....... Will I have any problems doing so? I know that the ONLY difference is the screen, so would I run into pot-holes doing so?

Things that I think will have to deal with are like:

1. Windows Activation
2. Dell Premiere Color App - which is installed because I have the 4K LCD
3. TPM 2.0 and Fingerprint Biometric Data (will reset both)

Anything else that I should expect to deal with?

Finally, if it's going to be a bad move, What software can I use for imaging the older 4K SSD into the FHD one? thus not having to deal with starting from scratch! will Windows Backup and Restore be enough (Built-in tool in Windows 10), or better off use Macrium Reflect or AOMIE Backupper?

Bright Ideas anyone?

Will

 

I found my multiple was lock at x8 recently, causing lagging on every app i opening...

I not sure does this link to latest i driver which just update manually....
- Intel-HID-Event-Filter-Driver_779H4_WIN_2.2.1.364_A06.EXE
- Intel-Serial-IO-Driver_RXDJM_WIN_30.100.1725.1_A05.EXE
- Intel-Dynamic-Platform-and-Thermal-Framework_D4G6R_WIN_8.3.10207.5567_A09.EXE
- Intel-Management-Engine-Components-Installer_19Y3F_WIN_11.7.0.1054_A01_01.EXE
- Killer-Wireless-AC-1525-1535-1435-Bluetooth-Driver_1JVK3_WIN_10.0.0.448_A07.EXE
- Realtek-USB-GBE-Ethernet-Controller-Driver_5MJ04_WIN_2.43.2017.907_A08.EXE
- XPS_15_9560_1.7.0.exe

 

If you use Bitlocker, be sure to turn it off first on the old computer.

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Hello everyone,
I know that a few folks in here have been owners of the XPS 15 9530 and have now moved on to the XPS 15 9560. So I thought this might be the best place to ask this:

With the current 12% deal on the XPS laptops I might buy the XPS 15 9560 with the following configuration:

My current laptop is a Dell XPS 15 9530 with the top configuration:

So the main differences are:

FHD, i7-7700HQ, Intel HD630, GTX 1050, Faster M.2 NVME SSD
vs
QHD, i7-4702HQ, Intel HD4600, GT 750M


1. Would I notice an real performance differences?
2. Would I cry about my old QHD screen and hate the FHD? Scaling sucks on Linux and also FHD brings better battery life. For gaming I use an external screen 144Hz.
3. Since I am on Linux, I am using the iGPU at 99%. The dGPU only gets activated when I explicit say so (e.g. run a game with NVIDIA). Would the iGPU upgrade make the system run noticeable better?
4. Any other differences that I might be happy or sad about?

Thanks in advance!

 

It does work quite well now, it will install several new devices, I would consider running DDU (display driver uninstaller) and wiping out the video drivers before you shutdown for the swap., uninstalled premier color as well and delete the local fingerprints/pin.
It should reactivate when needed via the BIOS key if you are staying on the same version.

 

If you removed Dell PrimerColor how do you control gamut?

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Just did another @iunlock mod to my new 9560 and everything is running like a top. Totally recommend it, lol. This time I did NOT use Conductonaut as I had a hell of a time cleaning up the heatsink when I sold my last one, lol.

 

I really had no idea what going wrong with my CPU, the multiple lock at x8 ... this drive me crazy....

Tried ;
Disable throttlestop
Disable speedshift
Now even reinstall the window, but its still showing 0.80 GHz during Prime-95....

Please help...
All driver is latest from Dell wthi Bios 1.6.2

 

FYI:
Dell and HP Advise All Their Customers To Not Install Spectre BIOS Updates:
https://slashdot.org/story/336495

 

What are your settings in Dell Power Manager?

 

And for a change they pulled the 1.7 bios!

 

I don't see any recommendation on the Dell site advising people who have installed 1.7 to downgrade back to 1.6.2.

I've been running 1.7 since it first became available a few weeks ago. I haven't seen any issues, and, for now, I have no intention to go back to 1.6.2.

 

I'm on 1.7.0 and my system is rock solid too.

 

Same here, not a single problem.

 

in addition to my XPS 1560 running without any problems with BIOS version 1.7, my BIOS boot time went down by about 2 seconds after 1.7 was installed.

 

Tried balance and performance both had no stuck at 0.80Ghz...
Suspect some setting in Bios, because even after window format, situation remain..

 

oh weird, normally it's the dell power config that causes that issue. You check it again after reinstall? Temps are ok?

 

Go into bios diagnostics and once something's running hold the power button until it shuts off, it should take 5 seconds to go off, this does a soft reset. If it just turns off straight away that won't work. See how it is after that.

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Hi! Currently deciding on the xps 15 9560. But I want a personal opinion on whether or not its still worth buying. Thanks

 

Its worth to buy it in following config:
UHD touch screen
i7-7700hq
16GB (or more) ram

 

I still think it's a good purchase regardless of the config.

 

I found the solution via https://www.dell.com/community/General/Dell-XPS-9550-CPU-Multiplier-Stuck-at-8/m-p/4740654
Kind of CMOS reset... WTH...

 

Sounds like power manager was unable to update one of the registers or something...

 

Hi guys, i have agreed with dell to return my almost 1year old xps 15 9560 FHD (which has a series of problems) and i've bought the 4k version for almost the same price.
I love the 4k model screen but i'm still too used to the FHD screen.
Anyway my only concern is: the new 4k has a battery wear level of 8% while my 1year old FHD has a wear level of 2% (i rarely use it on battery though).

Shall i open the 2 laptops and swap the batteries (bringing the old battery with 2% wear in the 4k) or shall i leave the batteries as they are?

i know it make more sense to leave the 8% worn battery in the 4k as probably is newer...but has still 8% wear!

suggestions??

thanks!

 

The battery wear level indication is very unreliable. My 9560 4K is less than 2 months old, I never really used it on battery, and it also reports 8% wear. However, I changeg BIOS settings and the battery charging threshold I'm using is 65% ~ 75%, since my use is 100% on AC power. I don't know if, in my case, the 8% wear indication is due to this custom charging threshold.

 

I would take new battery. With the rapid evolution of battery tech, may have tweaked chemistry, updated firmware, better hardware.

 

To see the current wear level of the battery you need to calibrate it. If you've never calibrated the battery, the reported wear level it's still the factory calibration, when the battery was new.

To calibrate the battery you need to discharge it until the laptop shutdown, then restart still unplugged, go to the BIOS and let it deplete the last 4 or 5% of remaining charge until it turns itself off with 0% charge. Then charge the battery up to 100%. I would be surprised if an year old battery wear level wouldn't go down at least 10%-12%.
Deep discharging Li-Ion batteries isn't good for their health, don't do it regularly.

 

Currently, there are some very attractive prices available from Dell on the XPS 15 9560.

While Dell's website prices change just about every day, right now, the website price for a fully loaded XPS 15 with the i7-7700hq processor, 32 GB of RAM, a TB SSD, the 4k screen,and Windows 10 Pro is under $2100.

And a more modestly but still nicely equipped XPS 15 with the i7-7700hq processor, 16 GB of RAM, a 500 GB SSD, the FHD screen, and Windows 10 Home is on the website at around $1250.

But my experience with Dell has been that, if I start by pricing a computer on the website and applying all coupons and, then, if I call and talk with a salesperson, I can usually get a further discount in the range of $150-200.

Thus, it looks like you could buy the fully loaded XPS 15 for around $1900 and the one with more modest specs for around $1100. In either case, I think you would be getting a very nice computer for the price, and I'm confident in guessing that, when the XPS 9570 becomes available, it will be a while before the same level of discounting is available as that currently available for the 9560.

 

Just received my second TB16 dock, the first one I bought is at the office, this one was for home. Fired up the config interface for my router to create a DHCP server lease for the new dock Ethernet interface. Found out that both docks have the same Ethernet MAC address! WTF? Won't be able to use both docks on the same network, unless I can change the MAC of one of them. Shouldn't the MAC address be unique?