has ANYONE reaceived their m1530 with the WUXGA (1920x1200) screen yet?

just happen to watch the included Ironman movie trailer in Media Center..I have to say..I was just blown away by the clarity..It was as good as playing in my plasma..now I guess that's a HD quality video. if you include the blue ray player the screen is really worth (which I did not ..so I am happily resting all my questions about screen clarity...I am convinced its the best screen comes with 1920*1200.

 

Ohh is the DPI comparable or the same as 1440x900 on a 14"? Proportions look the same when I loaded the picture on my Vostro 1400.

 

My 1530 with the WUXGA screen came today. The screen does have some graininess -- really, it makes it look like the screen has a texture on it, or that you are looking through a sheer or silky material. It is really only noticeable with white or light colored backgrounds.

Otherwise, the screen seems fine. The viewing angles seem normal. I was able to adjust the contrast to fix some other problems I was seeing. I am using my wife's Vostro for comparision -- it has a nice 17" LG WUXGA that I'm jealous of now.

Unfortunately, I think the texture bothers me too much for me to keep it. For those that have already received theirs, do you all have this minor graininess / shimmering texture? It seems like this is probably the same issue Bchen had. I definitely don't want to sensitize you to the effect if you didn't seen it before, so don't look too hard.

I don't want to deal with exchanging screens or getting a replacement machine if they are all like this. I could maybe step down to the WSXGA+. But if there are better quality WUXGA screens out there I would prefer to keep this setup.

Thanks for any feedback!

 

Same issue that is plaguing the samsung WSXGA+ screens in the 1530, looks like it's just as common in the WUXGA's. That sucks to hear.

For anyone a bit more intimate with the 1530's display connections, there's a thread here that I'd love some input on:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=3300553#post3300553

Basically it's talking about which WUXGA's fit in the 1530, and might open up an option for current grainy screen owners to purchase a new screen off ebay (there are plenty there!) for the reasonable outlay instead of dealing with warranty departments.

Appreciate any thoughts...

 

The dpi of the WUXGA 15.4" is about 10% more - so not a huge difference, as you have noticed...

 

Just received my 1530 with 1920x1200 screen. First of all it's a samsung, with no grainyness. Runs like a champ an everything looks just fine scaled down too me :|

runs tf2 like a champ ;p

note: stock video drivers suck, change as soon as possible.

 

That's exactly how I would describe my screen as well, so same issue (monitor hardware id SEC3255). What do you recommend to do at this point? Is there an LG version of the screen with this resolution that I can demand as a replacement from dell? any chance of getting LED at this point?

 

i just received my dell wuxga m1530 and it is also a samsung screen. i do not see any graininess when i watch a bluray movie. it is extremely difficult for me to notice the graininess at all. I am happy with the purchase. I also purchased one with a ssd drive and it is extremely fast. I just installed a dell internal wwan cingular/att 5520 card and it works great in this laptop although dell does not sell an att/cingular option on their website.

also i want to comment on the wuxga screen. i was worried when i was reading the boards because a lot of people said that the icons and text are too small for this screen. I believe that a lot of people purchasing these machines are probably in the 40's and 50's because I do not have an issue with the text size. the resolution is perfect for this screen size

 

Do you have a delivery date for your replacement yet? I'm curious how your new screen compares in terms of the graininess. I think I probably have the same quality of screen as you did so I'm trying to figure out if it's worth trying getting a replacement as opposed to trying to downgrade the resolution or something.

 

Okay I've ordered M1330(LED) & M1530 and based on my experience I can tell that by having both machine side by side I dont see much difference between two when both are put side by side. Also mine is WUXGA and Samsung LCD. In terms of grainyness I dont see much on my WUXGA screen.

 

I just received my xps1530 today. They shipped it with the wrong screen resolution, giving me wuxga instead of wsxga. After talking with them, i turned on the system and started to play with it. immediately, i noticed that the screen looks grainy in comparison to my inspiron 6400 WSXGA+ that this thing was sent to replace. Colors also seem dull and washed out, and I'm having some viewing angle issues. When looking straight ahead at the screen, brightness seems to improve, but no matter what i do, the extreme edges of the screen appear to dull out. If i look directly at those edges, it seems to appear less washed out, but it is literally head movement that is required in order to see things correctly, and that makes no sense to me.

Screen is a Samsung. I'm going to ask that it go back for another one tomorrow.

 

My 1920x1200 came yesterday and I've had absolutely no complaints. It's not grainy at all and the viewing angles are exceptional. The picture is incredibly crisp and looks wonderful on movies/games.

 

I have had mine for a while now, and while I can notice the graininess if i specifically *look* for it, it does not bother me. For the poster above who got a WUXGA instead of a WSXGA - if the graininess really bothers you then by all means go back and try to get your correct screen. However, I personally would keep it because technically you are getting a better screen without paying for it.

 

i'm thinking about having my screen replaced by a tech. i really want to get a better touchpad also.

 

You can't do anything about the touchpad. For some reason Dell decided to use Alps instead of Synaptics for the XPS M1530s. They cannot be replaced with synampics either.

 

Ooh. That's dumb. I don't really know much about different touch pads but I've never even used a laptop that didn't have a Synaptics touch pad. Glad I got a Vostro here. I have a question though, do the different laptops (from this generation) use the same connectors for the screen? I would love to get a WUXGA for my Vostro 1500 somewhere down the line, but I'm happy with my 1440x900 at the moment.

 

I've ordered my XPS M1530 10th of May and preelementary ship date was set to 21st of May, well... that's today. 11 days to build a system seems like a lot, what's taking them so long? I did not pick any option with "May delay Your XPS ship date"...

As for the lappy, I've also chosen WUXGA screen and hope it will work fine. I've ordered only 2 gigs of ram and I'm thinking about upgrading to 4 gigs of OCZ 800MHz, coz this resolution might be a little ram-consuming.

My XPS configuration:
T8300 2,4GHz 3MB cache
2GB Dual Channel 667MHz ram
GF 8600M GT 256MB
250GB 5400rpm HDD
WUXGA 1920x1200
Intel 4965 Wireless-N
Bluetooth Module
6-cell Battery

 

I have 4GB of RAM, but obviously the laptop only reads 3.5GB. At any given moment, I have roughly 1100MB of RAM free. Just thought I'd let you know, Jarlaxle (great books by the way, Jarlaxle's cool!).

 

@RingLeadr, well, get 64bit OS and You'll have Your 4 gigs

And yes, Jarlaxle is the best of the best, although my wife states that Salvatore's books are a bit of a... rubbish

Wow, @daveinbedoom, it looks like a ****pit (lol, it cenzored me (edit)) of an alien's spaceship (espiecially with the Earth right on Your screens) Seems like it was a lot of work to make sth like that, congrats !

 

Yeah, I'll be getting 64bit soon.

Personally, I love Salvatore, but that's only my opinion!

 

What is the nit rating of the WUXGA screen?

 

I don't want to sound unintelligent, but please tell me where I can find that information and I will look for you.

 

I have a lg 1600x1050 screen in my m1530. However is is slightly faulty, Dead pixels and a small mark. Im struggling to get a lg replacement from dell and have had 2 samsung screens in the past which are nothing compared to the LG screen. has anyone compared to Wsxga lg screen to the wuxga samsung screen. i have been offered a replacement system and might ask for the upgrade if the quality is the same

 

Dell used to have the ratings on their support site, but took them off before they came out with the LED and WUXGA displays. However, the following are the known nits. The LED is around 300-320 based on someones judgement by looking at the screen and comparing it to a 300 nit screen.

15.4" WXGA with TrueLife (CCFL, 220 nits)
15.4" WXGA+ with TrueLife (CCFL, 250 nits) - 2008
15.4" WSXGA+ with TrueLife (CCFL, 200 nits) - 2008

The Lenovo T61p has a nit rating of 175 nits for their WUXGA 1920x1200 screens if that helps.

 

I am not sure if you can find it in the control panel or system settings. Dell posts this info for certain configs and other times not, on their site.

 

From the M1530 manual online at Dell. They have not yet updated the manual with the WUXGA screen yet. But as you can see the higher the resolution the lower it gets... I suspect the 175 rating for the t61p that Forte quoted is most likely what you would get from the Samsung panel Dell is using in the M1530.

Luminance
WXGA 220 cd/m2
WXGA+ 250 cd/m2
WLED WXGA+ 300 cd/m2
WSXGA+ 200 cd/m2

 

Thanks, that is some good info, but we still don't know the rating for the WUXGA, correct? I knew about the one Lenovo uses. Are you saying that the Dell one would be the same?

 

Ooh, I posted right after you did. Thanks for the info. So most likely it is 175 nit, but we will need to wait till the manual is updated. The reason I didn't get the WUXGA on my machine wasn't because of the res and the small text but mainly because the nit level seemed insanely low. Don't you think 175 nits is really low?

 

Gods... people, can't You just chat with Dell ? I did so couple of weeks ago and here are the specs (despite the fact that only the third consultant was smart enough to get this info):

Brightness: 300cd/m2 (just like LED)
Contrast ratio: 850:1
Viewing angles: 60/60/45/45

Think I'm gonna like it


P.S. If You don't believe that numbers - check WUXGA screens in other Dell laptops, they're all better than these with lower resolutions.

 

Heh, that's pathetic... Dell just informed me that my system will be shipped on 27th of May. My system is being build for 17 days. 17 days - that's quite a lot ! Where do they take components from? Mars? ;] Does Dell offer any recompensation for such a delay?
Unfortunetely, it's not me who ordered this lappy (I'm abroad) so I cannot call them and force anything :/

 

Lol, thanks, now I know I'm not just seeing things because I've noticed that the display in my m1530 is a lot brighter than other CCFL screens and I've been having trouble imagining that an LED would be any brighter. This makes me feel even better about getting the WUXGA screen, over-kill resolution (in a good way ), and the brightness of an LED, repped.

 

Thanks. 300 nits and 850:1 contrast ratio??? Very surprised by these values. Hope the person you spoke to was giving you accurate info.

 

Well, considering that was a woman... But I had to wait couple of minutes, because she said that it's a new screen and specs are really hard to find (they still didn't update documentation). Two previous consultants just gave up, 'coz they didn't find anything. But, well, that was a really nice conversation so it wasn't bad ;]

 

ya i do not believe that.. Unless there are official specs listed at Dell site.

I asked about WUXGA+ LCD specs everytime i spoke to a dell technician and none of them had an answer.

 

Alright, well you have your opinion, but from what I see, I have a screen with the resolution that I want and the brightness that I need. LED saves you at most a few minutes of battery life and no one needs brightness that they "need to turn down" because that defeats the purpose of having a bright screen. Until there are screens that allow you to work in direct sunlight, I'm gonna stick with CCFL and save myself $50.

Here are pics of my Insp 1520 with WSXGA+ LG screen vs WUXGA Samsung screen.

http://image58.webshots.com/758/8/77/77/2288877770103442641SlHVtH_fs.jpg

http://image69.webshots.com/469/4/16/51/2931416510103442641LLHYLa_fs.jpg

 

Bchen06, upload them on imageshack or sth, because...

"Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /758/8/77/77/2288877770103442641SlHVtH_fs.jpg on this server."

 

Sorry guys, didn't realize I was logged in when I copied the links. Give me a few mins to sort this out.

EDIT:
Alright, see if this works http://good-times.webshots.com/album/563290839JMkwLA?start=28

 

That looks good to me (any higher res pics?), but I don't believe those numbers you posted either - they seem a little extreme for a CCFL.

By the way, is the WUXGA display the samsung unit everyone else has been getting, or did you get a different one? I do know that the samsungs (both WSXGA+ and WUXGA) are fairly average screens, brightness is fine (although nothing spectacular) but the viewing angles are absolutely horrid, and depending on how picky you are the graininess is annoying. I'm not sure if some are worse than others because I thought it was bearable - just not very nice.

 

Sorry about the pictures, I had to compress them to reduce upload time. The point that I was trying to make was that the CCFL WUXGA display is brighter than normal CCFLs and hopefully the pics will give ppl who are trying to decide whether or not they should get the WUXGA an idea of screen brightness and maybe how small things actually are.

All M1530s are shipped with Samsung screens but before anyone criticizes them, I just have to say that I had my doubts in the beginning as well but once I actually turned on the system and saw the display for myself, I was very surprised by the screen. First of all, it is very bright, colors are very rich and whites are truely white, not yellowish.

Viewing angles are excellent, I've had a group of ppl around the laptop once and no one had to move to see the screen. For horizontal viewing angles, well I can type this on my bluetooth keyboard with the display almost perpendicular to me and there'd be only slight discoloration. Vertical viewing angles are, of course, not as good, but not "horrid" (no one looks at their screen from straight above anyway)

There is slight graininess, but given how small the pixels are, you're not gonna notice it.

 

Bchen is 100% right - exact same response from me with my 1920x1200.

 

And mine bothered me enough for me to send it back. Maybe mine was just grainier than most but I used it for two weeks and couldn't get past the dirty/sparkly screen texture. I'm glad most people seem to be enjoying the screen, though.

 

The trick is to simply not look for it, it's been true for dead or stuck pixels, and it's the same for graininess. Sure, if the screen is intolerable, get it replaced, but don't focus on slight graininess; look at the overkill resolution, possible 300nit brightness, and the rich colors that this display produces.

Off topic: My wifi card is getting REALLY hot and this is the second system that's doing that, anybody noticed this on their system?

 

I'd be interested to know how bright this screen is as well. If it's the same panel in the T61p, I can say from experience that it's kind of dark for me. It's definitely among the better panels available with the Thinkpad but right now that's not saying very much. Right now I am skeptical however if there is a confirmation then this would deal the deal for me in terms of picking up an XPS. (I'd just have to live without gigabit-ethernet, which I do prefer.)

 

Yep, I received what some might consider a "child of a lesser God" - My Samsung 1920X1200 WUXGA M1530. To cut to the chase, the quality is good to excellent - Overall I rate this screen a B+ to an A-. First, the resolution is incredible and I get the Real Estate I need. Second, It has not tired my eyes as quickly as many others may have experienced. The brightness is fantastic and I have no light bleed at all. The one item that somewhat bugs me is if I move my head 8 inches to the side in either direction, the opposite side of the screens slightly (and only slightly) dims - more so than on my inspirion screen - that's what keeps this display from making A+ marks in my book.

Viewing pictures on this screen is incredible - I can hardly wait until I get a Blue Ray movie to watch and see how the screen performs. A page back or so, someone said the colors on this display are accurate. I echo the statement - whites are actually white, not off-white, the colors are bright and "pop" - its a beautiful picture, etc. This impressed me - but coming from 2002 technology; the year of the "ancients", it might not take much!

I abosolutely enjoy the great real estate. I lilke the smaller text as this display is my only display. In fact, when I use (yes, I still use my Inspirion 4150 I purchased in 2002), the screen resolution (see my 1st post for resolution) seems to make my eyes work more! Now, that's probably because my eyes have to re-ajust from viewing the WUXGA screen.

In any case, if you need or desperately want the screen real estate, and you have 20/20 vision or better (even if like me you have to wear prescrption eye-glasses to get you there), then no problem. Visit your local Best Buy and check out the screens and compare.

As others have said, get the native resolution that works for you. If you try to lower the native resolution, it looks like crap - just the honest truth. However, if I get to a website or a document where the font is microfiche small on my display, I simply click the "increase text size" browser or application button and I'm in business. I wish you the best with your purchase!

 

Bchen - You sent your first system back because of "possible" graininess, right? How do the two screens you have seen compare to each other?

And my wifi compartment also got pretty hot, plus it's in an inconvenient spot up front in the middle.

 

I contacted Dell and spoke with my EPP rep as well as one of the online reps. I was told by both that the published brightness for the WUXGA panel is 200 cd/m2 and that it already has been reported to update the website so that we can find it more easily. It definitely is not 300 nits, they tell me. Both said that I should expect the brightness to be the same as the other panels, except for the LED being markedly brighter.

 

I sent my first one back because it had a stuck blue pixel near the bottom and that got annoying especially while watching movies since there's usually that black space on the top and bottom. Other than that, the displays are completely the same.

Well it's bright enough, I'd rather have higher resolution than unneeded brightness. The reason why I say unneeded is because 200nits is enough for indoor use, and is sometimes too bright for dark environments. With 300nits, ppl brag about needing to turn the brightness down... but that just brings them back down to 200nits, and they have a lower resolution; and since both brightnesses have no chance in direct sunlight, LED really has no advantage over CCFL so it's pointless to get the brighter and more expensive one simply to squeeze a few mins of battery life out of it.

 

I'd rather have both

"Needed brightness" is subjective, what you need or I need isn't what everyone else needs, which is why I like to know what the brightness rating is; saying the screen is 300nits is very misleading to those of us who -do- want that bright a screen, even if it's not something you want.

I'm used to very bright screens, and much of my laptop use comes in difficult lighting situations with lots of glare, shadows, bright sharp lights where I need a bright screen to "punch though." Maybe I'm spoiled by 500 cd/m2 desktop displays, but I know that sub-200 cd/m2 laptops really bother me. LED has a ton of advantages going for it, and I can't see why one wouldn't take it except for simple lack of availability. I've used the current Macbook Pro 17" LED WUXGA and it is simply amazing. Unfortunately that resolution in 15.4" is so uncommon that I'm not sure we'll see a significantly better panel. My old Latitude D800 with 15" WUXGA from 4-5 years ago seems to have the exact same display specs as today's "modern" panels of that same size and resolution, leading me to think that these panels pretty much aren't being developed a whole lot.

Still, WUXGA it probably is.

 

Guys, does XPS still come with XPS Accessory Kit and earbuds? Because I've just noticed that info about this stuff disappeared here >> http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsnb_m1530?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
(first screen from the right in XPS Explore). See that empty place beside notebook ? That's where they were :/

 

I just got my xps today with 1920x1200. Yes im gonna use it for gaming and movies but im going off to the dorms in a while so mostly focused on movies. Since I would love to leave my 27" tv at home this would be my sole source. And so far its magnificent good quality the brushed aluminum on pad has some flaws but nothing major. The media buttons are nice and soft to the touch barely have to touch them for them to go. And the screen wowa nice and nice I dont get this graininess issue?


Oh ya and to last poster yes I got ear buds the leather cd case/holder thinger lol. So far I love this thing will replace my weak desktop for shure.