Dell Studio XPS 13 and 16 - Coming Soon?

i was in dell showroom today... and there was a notebook called studio xps 1640... it was looking like that xps studio 13 on the pictures... but i cant tell you anything about the technical specs, because it was equiped with radeon 3650... Its just model for showing... I would be introduced in early mid november, but nobody could tell me when it will be in stores...

 

Interesting information. Kind of a surprise going with ATI there though.

 

I'd prefer to see it with an nvidia card tbh. I'd love to be able to use the hardware acceleration in the Adobe programs. Also isn't the 3650 slower than the 8600?

 

So if i understand you correctly the 16-inch studie-xps you saw wasnt with the "bamboo"-case as shown in the leaked pictures?
How do you know when its going to be introduced?

 

I am not expecting 9800s or that kind of stuff in a 15'/16' laptop.

For the record only, Alienware has done it with the 8800 (but I do not have the impression that it went very well) (btw this was before or after Alienware was bought by DELL?) yet more recently Clevo managed to fit a 9800 in a 15' (they are having heat problems too from the HDD siting behind the GPU as far as heat is concerned).

But as I said I am not expecting that from a 15' or 16' because I know that at the long run the heat will destroy the laptop.

Yet I was thinking something like the 9650 mentionned above or (wishfull thinking here) the 9700. (I haven't seen this GPU put in any laptop yet, so I was hoping/wishing it would produce a "reasonable" ammount of heat, but as I have read you think it would be too much for it).

Bottom line after all this meaningless mambo-jumbo? For the 15'/16' inch frame I would like anything more than the 9600 (or as a matter of fact anything else) that would make the new line stand out and make me say "wow, these guys did a decent job here! this is indeed a special machine worth looking at!!!".

 

If it looks anything like the pictures at the start of this thread,I'd agree,it looks ghastly in those.......1530 much nicer imo.....16" is a dumb idea also,15.4" notebooks are the most popular size for a reason.

Pretty strange how it seems dell are are going to mess with the very popular formula that the 1530/1330 has been.

 

well first i have noticed that on the roadmap they mention the Dell Studio XPS 13/15 and then on the slides they say 13 and 16.. so does that mean there is also a 15? probably.. anyway.. lets just see when they comeout for real. Dont get your hopes down or up.. just balance them.. lol.

 

I think it important to note that these new 'Studio XPS' machines are not intended as poly pushers, guys. For all the talk of premium GPU's on these few pages, that (gaming) specification is not the focus of the new line.

I think realistically we would have to look at the mid-range products from either GPU vendor.

 

yup exactly what i said..

you should be looking at the 9400M - 9650M range of nvidia.. and i highly doubt Ati will get the hands up on these models.

 

I swear after I'm done drinking and partying this weekend to the point where I can't remember what I did there had BEST be good news next weekend and some concrete details. I want to order this laptop already!

 

lol, I agree, hope Dell won't disappoint us, **** they can just refresh the current xps 1530 and put the backlit option and higher processor on it, so I will buy it right away, crap, this anixity is killing me already, kept check dell website on a daily basis

 

That point being answered, let's wait and see what DELL will give us!

 

So would it be foolish to buy a XPS 1530 now (are they still priced fairly high for what you get)? Is it likely that bigger discounts will be offered once the changeover to Studio XPS occurs or will the XPS 1530 just be pulled?

From this thread it looks like the Studio XPS will see a small bump in features, GPU, CPU (though which may also be accompanied by a price increase). The performance increase might not be that much greater though? From the looks of things the design will also suffer (so you'll get the more mainstream studio design with XPS like components inside).

It's been said that most consumers won't care about whether they're on the Montevina platform and that there are limited benefits in changes like a switch to DDR3 memory (increase in battery life perhaps, but that's not too important considering most homes and libraries should have power sockets for laptop docking nowadays).

Also it seems possible that there might be a rush on the new laptops (now that news about the November release has been known for a while). That coupled with the general pick up in sales for Xmas could mean a long wait, especially if time is taken to see reviews before a purchase of the Studio XPS is made)?

 

well first of all the new XPS will not be any lower in terms of quality of build etc, on the contrary im pretty sure DELL has invested in a certain upgrade in such with better materials, so it wont sit inbetween the current XPS and Studio, but for sure above the current XPS. Yes its worth it to buy XPS 1530 now, discounts are high. Will they be pulled out? yes. according the the slides EOL is end of october. If they will still exist to grab? probably yes. depends on how stock moves...
And im sure there will be a rush to get the new XPS's especially when you know u backed by dell's superior service.

 

No ATI on these Studio XPS please

 

That sentiment gets my vote. I'd rather have a slightly slower NVidia card than have to put up with those God awful ATI drivers again.

 

look on the goodside.. we may get fireworks in the future with nvidia 8D

 

I guess I meant in terms of styling. The XPS M1530 looks a little better (light keyboard colour, good size trackpad and nicer when closed) compared to the current studios (which, from the prototype in the slides it looks like the XPS Studio will inherit). That could be a misconception though?

Pricing wise the XPS M1530 is currently at £50 off the lower end models and £100 off the higher end in the UK (which is actually dwn from £70 and £120 the week before). The current discount expires today and I'm not sure whether they'll offer a bigger or smaller discount to replace it. It's going to suck if I grab an XPS 1530 and they drop prices by a few hundred pounds on all models in a week or two to try and clear stock (is that likely, and if I wait could they just as easily remove all discounts as the change nears)?

As a side note, the UK is currently seeing fairly big delays on studio laptops (they actually advertise the XPS as a "fast delivery" alternative). This seems to be due to high demand and a shortage of parts but the current delays at at "2,5 weeks" for the Studio 15 and "~3 weeks". Not sure it's likely that similar delays would occur on the new XPS studio's though.

If I'm honest I'm not that interested in a 16" laptop - so would want to pick up the XPS rather than the XPS studio (in fact the reason why I've begun looking toward Dell is the Acer Aspite 6920G - which itself appears to be being refresh at the moment, with specs like Bluray drives/9600M-GT/P8400 CPU, as the 6935G - felt impractical for normal computer work due to the unusual resolution).

 

well i think dell will be going with a 16:9 16.4" for the xps because in terms of size and trend.. for multimedia seems to go well. The M1530 may have different discount policies depending the region ofcourse, it all depends on how sales are going and stock levels on the M1530 since it is no longer in production.
About looks, you cant cater every single taste, so there must be a compromise in between... we shall see when they come out, i know DELL is focusing on the 13" since these are much more powerfull than they used to be.. and if you need a bigger screen.. get one and add dock ur laptop to it, sounds more reasonable.. so thats why i see the 15" dieing out for now in the multimedia client demographics.

 

i sure hope that these do not have ATI cards as they suck, unless its a 4850hd laptop version which they wont have...

i want 9600mgt/9650m gt

 

Im not an nvidia fanboy or anything, but ati drivers are absolutely terrible.

 

No, you're a fanboy...

Been using ATI's unified drivers since back on the I9300 w/Radeon Mobility 9600 and usually updated the drivers monthly w/each Catalyst release and now doing the same on the Studio w/o issue...

 

Depends a lot of the experience you've had. Me (and a few of my friends) have had a lot of problems with Ati hardware while on the other hand Nvidia hardware have worked great.

As the new Creative Suite 4 supports CUDA it would be great to have an nvidia card. If the XPS 16 gets a Ati card it could be a deal breaker for me. But other than the MacBook Pro (which is a bit to expensive for me) I haven't a clue of what to buy.

 

Prior to the Great Nvidia Debacle this may have been true...not so much anymore!

 

Though new Nvidia chips (that are produced today) are probably not affected by the debacle. Also not every chip will fail. It depends a lot on how and where the computer is used. Users that go through a lot of heat cycles are more likely to have a failure than those who don't.

 

well, i got a dell leaflet, and the studio 15" and 17" now hav montevina, online updates tomorrow i guess.

studio 15": 3470
studio 17" : 3650

so the studio 13/14" and 16" will be better? eg: 9600m gt/ 9650m gt or a higher ATI?

my bros got a ATI and hes got no probs, my old pc had ati and its got no probs. but for some reason, at the moment ATI cards in laptops seem weaker then nvidia's in the same range. so id rather have a 9600m gt then a 3650.... (pc wise: 4850 and 4870 pwn'in nvidia )

so far, in the uk, i havent seen anyone sell a more powerfull card then the 3650 and thats on par with the 8600m gt. so i want a higher card, not lower. bring on the 96XX series dell

 

I honestly highly doubt both drivers are that different. They are probably both very well put together at this point. The only difference is with ATI you know you'll get a new update every month where as with nvidia you don't know when you'll get it. Also nvidia has "hid" features from us such as SLI on multiple monitors for no apparent reason as long as with trying to hide the failure of their GPUs. I could really care less which company is in the laptop as long as they battery life is good and you are allowed to switch between dedicated and integrated. Dell should pick the GPU based on performance and batterylife and not some silly stuff like "I had problems with so and so companies in the past" which I have always heard. In the past AMD was faster than intel and in the past we didn't have LCD or LED screens but this is the present and things change.

 

Well, news of these new machines has certainly made me put a hold on purchasing a new notebook. Up until I read this thread, I was leaning strongly toward a Studio 17. The absence of a dedicated video card right now made me hold back, and now I'll wait to see if anything official about these machines is announced in November. Waiting eagerly...

 

This is torturous.

 

The Studio 17 has a dedicated video card. Only reason I'm waiting is a I refuse to buy an old laptop at dell's marked up prices when I could get the same laptop with fully updated hardware from any other company.

 

Hmm. Looking today it seems there is no choice for video card in the Studio 17 -- it shows the Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100 as the only choice. I believe the ATI cards are no longer available (perhaps out of stock?).

 

I'm looking in the Market for Gamer Laptop to replace my current 5 years old Desktop and I was about to buy the M1530 but as soon as I heard about a new line coming up next month I'm holding the trigger.

But with no news about the new line I'm getting a bit anxious .

 

yeah its really long wait... but if you look at dell's page and try to order m1530 the list of components you can choose is not as bigger as it was... i think dell is running out of parts... so they have to refresh it soon!!! i hope

 

On the UK XPS M1530 front, the current coupons expired yesterday. I was pretty frustrated as they removed all discounts from their sites (so the high end XPS's were at £1000).

They seem to have restored the discounts again today though. The low end models have £20 off and £50 off. The high end have £150 off.

They've also bumped up the hard drives on the higher end XPS's to 500GB drives with no increase in price (perhaps to get rid of stock?).

These offers expire on the 12th November. Not sure that, in the UK anyway, that will be when the new Studio XPS's roll out (though that would be about right if the original road map was still on track).

It's possible that they might discount further after the 12th (to really shift stock) but I'm not sure I'm going to risk it (without knowing Dell, and after the removal of all discounts earlier today, it's probably safest to just pick one up now - knowing my luck they'd push prices back up and then just pull the entire line).

 

well is possible that the 13th is when things happen.. mid month.. number 13.. hmm.. but as you can see the limited options etc show that the M1530 is EOL. so ya.. buy them up guys.. so we can get those new ones in earlier.

 

Selling a 17 inch laptop with integrated graphics seems like a crime... I mean that big I should be getting hot stuff or at least have the option to get it.

 

Dell Sweden shows the 3650 available for the Studio 17. The 1530 also has a lot of options expect for the graphics card which is only the 8600 at the moment. Lowest amount of RAM is 3 GB (2 + 1). Expect for the graphics card all parts that would be specific for the 1530 is specifiable.

 

Two out of 5 'recommended models' of the Studio 17 on European Dell sites now include Montevina processors since today by the way. Plus, all Studio 15 models are now the new Studio 1537 with Montevina. Only the cheapest option includes the 4500 graphics chip, others still include the ATI 3450.

 

hmm the new xps desktop just came out.. XPS 430.. as predicted... so things are looking good.

 

The case isn't even that bad for the XPS although it says XPS 420 on the US site (unless that's been out). I still would never buy an enthusiast PC though although I like the idea of the top "docking" station for mp3 players.

 

i hope we will be seeing new xps laptops next week

 

Whaaa... XPS 430s? I don't see them anywhere. T_T

You guys aren't pulling my legs are you... T_T... or is it just that Canada gets all the hate. T_T

 

Sorry to ruin your day but...

 

well seems not out in the US yet.. soon though.. lets see who gets the XPS laptops first! hehe

 

Doesn't look like they improved on the XPS 420 at all; seems like they took out features. I hope this isn't an indication that the new XPS laptops will be worse than the previous models. Wouldn't want Dell to be cheaping out on newer models and charge even more than before.

 

well... hard times hey.. lol

 

already kind of getting sicked and tired been waiting for this new xps. dell will really **** off everyone if the new design worse than the current xps laptop.

I will probably end up getting a latitude instead of xps laptop.

 

if they suck.. it will be hard.. but im totally diggin the new sony z.. and that 16:9 screen

 

I agree. Even if the new XPS are just mildly worse than the previous XPS, they will suck extremely hard just by virtue of coming so late and setting all of our expectations so high.

 

Yeah I'm currently looking at an Asus N50Vc 15" LED, But would like to give Dell a chance to compete with the XPS 16" LED. I really want a backlit keyboard too.

But I've decided this morning I'm only waiting until this time next fortnight (payday) for them to announce it's availability, or I'm getting the Asus.

I am also fearing the XPS will be Ati based (I want Nvidia for CUDA development) these new XPS430's are all Ati and the previous Studios are too. (sigh) I wish Dell would learn to offer more Videocard options.