Dell Studio XPS 13 and 16 - Coming Soon?

Just for the record: As far as I know the MBP can not use 9400m + 9600 in SLI. It's hybrid switching. You can choose either one, not both.

 

oh yes they can.. it has been noticed that they perform much better than other pcs with 9600m cards in crysis etc.. where do u get that performance boost from?
well just go and download those links i gave from the nvidia site.. u will be clarified on that. =)

 

http://www.pcmag.com/image_popup/0,1871,iid=219440,00.asp

 

sorry man. they don't. they perform well but no SLI.

 

so you telling me that a macbook pro can get double the performance on boot camp with the 9600M GT than the HP HDX 16 with the same GPU and better processor? DOUBLE?! i know that u read some place that they announced it doesnt support SLI.. but please check those nvidia links.. im pretty sure they just covering up something. its very obvious that something is going on...

 

That is strange indeed, but I will not take that as proof that the Macbooks have SLI. I find it more likely that PCMag made a mistake with the HP benchmark. The 9600GT should be getting more than 17 fps in medium quality 1024*768.

But we're getting off topic here, give us some more details about the dells

 

well we shall see what dell comes out with.. if they can cram that hybrid sli tech in the 13" it will be a first.

 

You are absolutely right, they are not SLI.

But Hybrid SLI.

End of story.

 

No man. They do not support SLI. Open up a topic in the Apple forum and everyone will tell you.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=4127074

New MacBook Pro running Hybrid SLI? UPDATE: Nope.
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/15/new-macbook-pro-running-hybridsli/

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=313071

Agreed w/ PhilFlow. nVidia has confirmed that it will be able to do it but it cannot do it right now.

 

I didn't post cause I wanted to keep my 1337 post count in tact.

Come on, this has got to show Jayson knows nothing about this. News: Windows 7 WILL NOT support Hybrid SLI or CrossFire. http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/06/microsoft-disses-hybrid-sli-and-crossfire-wont-support-them-in/

No laptops have this function. Vista isn't supporting it either.

Also, just because you name dates doesn't mean you know them for sure. Anyone can just spew out random logical guesses. The general consensus was the new Dells were going to be released in October. But they did not release anything new. So you guess Novemeber, logically. Then, you choose the most logical dates (11th, coupon expiration dates, 15th, 31st) and if the new dells are released anywhere near that, people will herald you as a genius and me as a hating troll. Anyone see what I'm saying here?

Example: After news of ATI cards shipping, and people throwing wild guesses they will be released soon, I guess December to January. Thats the most logical date and probably when they release. So if they do come out during that broad time period, I win and everyone thanks me. If they don't, no-one remembers my claims and moves on. Win-win. See my point>?

DOUBLE EDIT: Those slides are fake. Fakity fake fake fake. Remember all those concept MacBook Pro shots? Just because they looked alright, did that mean they were real? Gimme a source of where you get these Jayson.

TRIPLE EDIT: Oh, and I'll not be eating my words... Jayson....if....they....do....not....come out....... Keep that in mind. And have you met my Friend P unk Chuation?

 

dude, you are 86 pages behind on this topic..

 

Oh, excuse me for not reading 60+ pages of this thread. Tell me how im behind?

And another thing about Hybrid SLI, that would require a nvidia chipset. I'm doubting that after the 8600, 8400 fiasco Dell had to suffer through.

 

Chill out.

Pics of the laptop have been released, that's why you're behind.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26564&d=1226062855

 

So these things will be like what, $1299?

 

No-one knows.

And regarding those pictures, so what? Do they mean anything?

We saw lots of fake macbookpro/macbook photos, they didnt mean anything,

 

Someone else said they saw this in Dell's own showroom, continue to not believe it.

 

Windows 7 not supporting hybrid SLI isn't that big of a deal either. It can be done at the driver level.

Right or wrong. We'll know in a few days. There's no need to stir the pot. Even if he's wrong, I'll give him credits for creating some excitements in an otherwise dying brand.

 

I'm not too crazy about those two silver hinges which seem to conflict visually with the black bezel. Of course that's probably just a prototype so I'll have to wait for the final design to make up my mind.

 

ya dampfnudel; the hinges look strange.

atbnet, did your friend mention if the showroom model had the hinges? and did he have any comments on the lid? ie: fingerpint magnet?

would be great if dell offerd 2 lids, like they are planning to do for the vostro:

http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dell2om7.jpg

 

That's one pretty fugly shot of the Studio XPS. I'm gonna have to hope it's the angle of the shot..

 

Not sure, I just remember someone else commenting that this is what they had seen in the Dell showroom as a sort of confirmation on the picture.

 

it had the hinges like m1530... The lid is glossy and plastic... There was no fingerprint magnet but i think its easy for dell to add one... The dark blue stripe in silver aluminium frame is some sort of skin(I didnt like it very much) And the difference is that there was XPS studio tag on the lid... But i have to say it... The m1530 was much more nice!!!(but ya, its just prototype)

 

well it seems qazimodo here thinks he knows everything.. let him be.. its ok.. the last laugh always counts the best.. =)

 

Whats with this ellipses fetish going on? .. Do you have a twitchy finger that always double taps the "." key?

Anyone can just say things. It takes someone in particular to back these things with proof. Im off this thread, seeya when the Studio XPS comes out (if it does)

 

qaz I really do not get your attitude... You seem to be angry with a guy you do not even know if he exists! (read along and you will understand)

First things first. You say that what Jayson is saying is fake.
Do you realize that if you trully believe that Jayson is just spreading false roumors by getting angry you are just giving him the fun of a lifetime?

And at the alternative (which you do not believe)
if indeed jayson knows what he is talking about, you will sound ridiculous at the end. (Honestly just up to here, from my point of view, this is a loose-loose situation for you)

On the other hand there is no way in provoking him to say more (if lets say this is your goal...) If Jayson knows his business, then all that he is saying is planned before hand in order to generate hype. And to be honest if you have followed this thread from the begining Jayson's behaviour follows very very well in those lines.(For that alone I am giving Jayson substantial credit.)
Which would mean that what "Jayson" is saying could be something a group of ppl have thought about, thus "Jayson" may not even exist as a single individual...

Getting angry and upset about it, is... a waste of time and energy!

At the end you can either believe Jayson or not, but the XPSs will eventually come.

Edit: And for all you know, I may be an allien sending this msg from my space-ship which I parked at the moon's dark side!!
This is the level of certainty we have when we are "talking" with other "ppl" in the web!

 

The 9600M GT in MBP is the GDDR3 version whereas the same card in the HDX18t,HDX16t, DV7t and DV5t is GDDR2 make. That explains the performance difference.

 

Partially yes. But it does not explain why the MBP does more than twice as good as the HDX16.

 

For me it feels as though Jason is passing information on (so the slides were leaked by a Dell employee who gave them to Jason), which is why (whilst the information is a little patchy and vague at times) it's ultimately correct (bear in mind that the original information was just a rough time line for internal Dell use).

If it helps it really looks like Dell UK are gearing up for a new model release (they appear to be dropping prices and pushing XPS's with graphics highlighting the offers to encourage people to buy them). At lot of these promotions expire on the 12th November (though that could just be when bigger discounts are offered to really shift the old XPS models).

There is a new promotion floating around (you have to dig a little deep to find it, so it might be pushed onto the main Dell UK site at a later date). It offers bigger savings on "selected XPS model" (over £100 from their currently reduced rate as things stand) though the expiry date is the 27th November 2008 (possibly this will be pushed to the XPS M1530 and then switched to the XPS 1330 and 1730 when the M1530 is pulled?).

 

27th? Great.

 

Permka, I'm an alien sending messages from the dark side of the moon, but I don't see your spaceship here. I'm having trouble believing your story. In any case, those of us on the dark side of the moon are all looking forward to seeing the new models -- whenever they show up.

 

To be honest I'm not sure that too much attention should be paid to the discounts (I'm only interested as I ordered a M1530 last week and have always been nervous that Dell would slash prices a lot as the switch over date was reached). Most are buried fairly deep in the Dell site and they seem to change without warning.

For the most part the 12th is still being used for XPS offers (which is a date used in a lot of the non XPS discounts on Dell UK at the moment). I've uploaded a screencap of the 27th November offer though (again ,from the original slides, only the M1530 is set to be pulled initially so an XPS voucher which lasts for longer periods could be intended for the other ranges which aren't EOL in November).

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/3516/dell111offuo0.jpg

 

Which voucher is that?

 

Looks like the current XPS lineup will be around until at least the end of November (Gizmodo found Dell's Black Friday ads, and the M1330 and M1530 are still going to be alive).

Ah crap, I guess I can't post links yet. Go to gizmodo.com and copy:

5081202/dell-black-friday-ad-now-available-for-your-deal+devouring-eyes

onto the end.

Hopefully this doesn't mean we will have to wait that long for the new Studio XPSs.

 

Oh! And the ad mentions nothing of the new Studio XPSs, but I figure they wouldn't discount their brand new premium line so soon...? Right?

 

hmm who would do that?

 

so we will wait till 27th November??

what do you think?

 

That proves that Jayson was wrong about m1530 being stopped in October. If that part of the slides was wrong, then surely the others were too.

 

I think they are already out.
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=16243

 

People said August, then September, then October, I mean they just keep guessing so that when they are right everyone will be like "YA YOU ROCK NICE!"

 

Jayson any comments on that?

 

Yes Monoxide.. EOL of the M1530 was october.. means they still selling off stock. doesnt mean they will stop selling on the 1st of november and throw away all their stock.. do u do business?

 

any comments on what?

 

I really don't think this PROVES anything.... I have followed this thread for a while and have been really surprised by how people take every chance to diminish Jayson whenever something doesn't make sense. It is my impression that he just happened upon these slides, and decided to share them with all of us. He may speculate every now and then, like we all do, but he is really just doing his best given these slides and what he knows about how Dell operates. If anything I think we should be encouraging him to continue sharing the insider info that he happens upon (which I don't think I'd ever do again, given some peoples' response in this thread).

These slides look like Dell slides... if you have followed Dell leaks on Engadget or anywhere else before (as in before this leak) you know that all Dell slides look cut-and-pasted together like this. Just because Dell hasn't taken some of the actions these slides show they were planning to take doesn't mean Jayson is wrong, the slide are fake, or that this new Studio XPS line isn't real. Companies change their plans when the real world situation deviates from what is projected.

It is possible that the sales lately on the XPS line haven't been good enough to liquidate inventory, or that Dell has since decided to keep the XPS lineup as a seperate series.

And like I questioned before, why would Dell have a sale on a brand new, premium line? If I remember correctly it was at least 3 months after launch before they started having sales on the current XPS line.

Am I making sense to anyone? I'm just like you all, trying to rationalize this and figure this out. Hopefully we won't have to rationalize too much longer, and Dell will just get a product out the door (albeit 4 months later than the competition).

 

27th november?

 

@ never mind. my mistake.

so tomorrow might be a good day, huh?

 

... i thought we have gone through this.. on paper it says 15th.. when they will spill the beans not sure..

 

One good thing about Dell is they do tend to release around the world near simultaneously. The frustrating thing is I am in the market for a new machine now (in the next 2 weeks - buying from China). Maybe the sensible thing is to bargain hard to get a second M1330 at a low price (sons fighting over the machines)... but the temptation is the new XPS line - However, I was one of the first in the queue when the M1330 came out and in the end had to wait weeks to actually receive the machine. Can't afford to do that this time.

 

If an old notebook looks good to you get it. I honestly wouldn't touch the current XPS no matter what. Even if they were selling for 500 dollars. I want something with the latest tech not something that is 2 years old. If you like it BUY IT. Don't wait if you like what you see. I don't like what I see and that's why I'm waiting but if you like what you see don't wait because then you might not like the next product and the old stuff won't be available. Example, the first gen iphone which could be easily bought and unlocked compared to the 3g iphone which forced you to have a contract.

 

When the new XPS comes out, I bet you won't actually have it in your hand for at least a month, if not more... Just check past history, when Dell released their 1330 and 1530... I mean, I hope they have improved but it will never be able to catch up to the huge initial demand.