Dell Studio XPS 13 and 16 - Coming Soon?

Sony Z series has everything except a larger resolution. 13 inch laptop,

 

Sony Z does have 1600*900.

 

Interchangable graphics? Maybe.

Hybrid SLI? No.

Hybrid SLI means then combination of a strong card and a weaker card, to provide a small boost for performance. Right now, no laptops have Hybrid SLI and Microsoft announced they will not support Hybrid SLI in Vista or 7.

 

qaz333 .. u believe to much in articles written up by some techie..
microsoft doesnt support SSDs also in vista.. but they work.. its all down to software dude.. nvidia can make vista support Hybrid SLI.. how do you think the new Toshiba works? that big RED Plasticy one... with 3 graphics.

 

Well, there's nothing new on DELL Germany. As always. They have now 9 days of savings with changing offers until the 21st of November.

Speaking of Hybrid SLI: I thought Hybrid SLI was a discrete graphics card in combination with a graphics chipset? And that you can switch the graphics card "off" in order to save battery and "on" when you need graphics performance? At least, that's what I was looking for.

I know the Sony Z has everything. But it is far too expensive.

 

Ramekin, yes you are right about Hybrid SLI.. the coolest thing about it is using both the integrated graphics chip and the discrete graphics in SLI.. it gives it much more stamina..

The sony Z for me only has one prob.. graphics.. no Hybrid SLI..

 

The HP HDX16 is pretty strong contender...ugh..Dell or HP? The HP gives you 512MB of Nvidia 9600M GT with a 16:9 screen. Oh man. I guess I will just have till possible this weekend to see if Dell upgrades their lineups.

 

Xcitado.. the problem with the HP HDX16 is that its HP for first and its performance in graphics sucks.. at least looking at reviews.. i bet you the XPS 13 will crush it using its hybrid SLI..

 

I just checked DELL again: When you go for the M1530, the offers have been renewed (save EUR 100) until November 26. Yippieh.

 

I'll say it one more time: Dell starts and finishes new offers every week. It doesn't mean anything. Once they announce the Studio XPS they will most likely continue to sell XPS 1330 and 1530, at least for a while.

Hybrid SLI can be found on some Fujitsu and MSI laptops and works well. And it will continue to work in Windows 7.

 

now there aren´t new offers in Dell Spain for XPS, there are offers for Inspiron and Studio...

Maybe tomorrow...

 

Again, that's interchangeable graphics, Hybrid SLI is the use of all of the GPUs in the system, the Toshiba can switch between the 9800M SLI and the 9400M but not use all 3 at the same time. It doesn't matter anyway, the 9400M would hardly give any boost to a 9800M GTS SLI rig.
Do you do any research before trying to show me up on this thread?

Omg, how dumb are you?
Hybrid SLI is not pure SLI. It does not mean 9600M (5000 3d06) plus 9400M (2000 3d06) equals 7000 marks. It's more of a small boost (EDIT: now looks like a decrease in performance), not the massive boost you're imagining here. And also, if Dell decide not to use the nVidia Chipset, they're stuck with 9300/9200 plus X4500. That's nothing.

And how do you know what GPU the 13in will use? 90% that Dell will not use anything higher than a 9400M. How do you expect Dell to put a 9600M into a laptop purely aimed at students/mobility seekers? Example: Studio 15: ATI 3450 And that's a 15incher, assuming the new Dells will come under the Studio line, I cannot see any performance GPU being put into a slim and thin laptop that's 13in. And, yes, I know about the LG P310, that's a completely different company there.

EDIT: Ok, you just got owned by some actual BENCHMARKS, not just you're rambling on and speculations.







I know that's a desktop, but notebook Hybrid SLi will be more or less the same, if not worse.

Of course, PhilFlow could post some notebook Hybrid SLi benchmarks of those MSI and Fujitsu laptops.

 

The laptops I mentioned have ATi 3200 platform and they benefit from SLI crossfire. I don't have benchmarks at hand. I can get you the model numbers if you want to.

 

i dont know about those benchmarks.. im just saying what nvidia says.. about hybrid sli on notebooks.. u can check it out on their site.
but atleast u now know that hybrid sli works on vista..

 

The Apple site mentions "Macs Just work". Is that true? Noooo. They fail and get errors just as much as some PCs.

The Intel Site is claiming a boost in performance with TurboCache (Eg. 8400M GS with 2303MB). Is that real? No. TurboCache offers little performance boosts and is just a marketing scheme.

Windows claim ReadyBoost will enhance your system, but that's only true with low-end systems with 1-2GB of RAM. Similar to Hybrid SLI, I doubt a 9800M GTX will benefit much (and lose performance, according to the benches) from Hybrid SLi with 9400M but a 9200M will benefit a lot.

You cannot trust the silly claims of websites, they are aimed at the less knowlegable aka. the average computer user. We NBR folk are better than that.

And come on, I just disproved your "Hybrid SLI will own" theory, and you say that

to try and defend yourself one last time.

 

You'd get better performance with Hybrid SLI if the IGP would handle physics calculations and such. An IGP is too slow to keep up with a top of the line graphics card if they calculate the same things. Give it something else to work on and it will work a lot better.

 

qaz333 u talk too soon on everything...
dont forget performance changes with release of drivers.
All those benchmarks can change anyday.

 

That's fine and all that, but most people buying a notebook with Hybrid SLI are expecting better gaming performance not something else.

And I was posting those in response to Jayson's "Studio XPS 13's Hybrid SLi will crush HDX16t".

I think not.

EDIT: So some new magical drivers will make the performance go up? Whatever, believe what you want to believe.

 

More evidence: http://www.dvhardware.net/article25044.html

Quote:

EDIT: more.

 

Maybe Hybrid SLI does not work for Nvidia (yet) I don't know, it seems to work for ATI HD3200 + HD3470.

Some benchmarks: 3dmark06
HD3470: 2000.
HD3470 + 3200 HC SLI: 2660.
http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/1310145 (unfortunately in dutch)

 

sorry i'm straying from the topic but i found it humorous, qaz333, your acer 8930g retails here for R32999 (around $3180 at current rate)

the first car i bought was a 1993 VW Golf MK1 for R21000 ($2021)

 

Thats a bit too expensive, I got mine for 2700$ AUD.

I could have spent up to 4500$ AUD and got a monster m1730 but fell in love with the 16:9 ratio screens after seeing a FW in action. The best 16:9 laptop was the 8930G in the land of oz GPU wise

 

Well the new offers in the UK actually pushes prices of most of the XPS configurations higher than they were last week. Perhaps they're not needing to shift existing stock before the new line (if Dell order everything just in time, and if most of the componants in the XPS's can be put in other machines, all they're likely to be left with is the XPS shells).

I'm not sure I can see them knocking much more of the XPS prices - perhaps a hundred or so more from the current discounts (sure they're old tech, but even at their current prices they're around a reasonable price point for what you get - a few hundred pounds less than the Montevina / DDR3 laptops offered by Sony and Acer).

Personally I've now got my XPS M1530 and am happy with it. Looking at things like the WEI in Vista, there might have been a more rounded experience if DDR3 memory and the Montevina chipset (along with a faster hard drive) were included but the overall scores of my XPS are pretty decent

 

Well, I just registered to let you know, that at least Dell Germany will not release the studio xps 16 before the mid of january. I cannot say anything about the studio xps 13 or any refresh for the current xps line, but that's for sure. Maybe Dell USA will release it earlier....

 

dell USA offers finish on 13/11, so i hope that for 15/11 will be new models!!!

don´t you think it?

 

I got that info from my sales assistant by e-mail. He said, that there won't be any release in the next couple of weeks referring to an intern e-mail, Dell workers get before a new system is launched.

Sorry for the bad news.
Maybe you guys in the US have more luck.

 

No. How many times do people have to tell you, offers have NOTHING to do with new releases. They have offers on 24/7. They all finish on Wednesday midnight, and new ones start Thursday, every 2 weeks. It's been like this for years. And Dell have released new models in the middle of offers (e.g. Studio, XPS). Offers have NOTHING to do with the new models. And judging by all the evidence in this thread, they'll be out in mid-January.

 

Well, Dell Germany has new offers for various systems till Nov. 21st , including the current xps 13 and 15

 

Did you even bother to read the post above you? Deal expiration dates Mean NOTHING. There has been hundreds of deals this year, has there been a notebook released everytime they expire? No!!!!

 

Source?

 

I talked to a Dell salesman today (in Sweden). I asked him about the new xps line. He wasn't sure, because they don't often get information long before, but he said that the rumors at his office says that the new xps is coming in January..

 

I know qaz333, it was more an assesment to suko69. No need to be irascible.

Anyway, it could be interesting, that they offer the xps 13 with a LED Display from now on.

Did they do that earlier? I always thought LED is only built in studio notebooks.

 

my words...

 

Why do u guys need a dell? They have screwed you with the wait and dont deserve your hard earned money. Go with the HP dv5t, HDX16t or a Sony FW.

 

I'm no expert in the gaming field but I believe HP DV5 and HDX16 come with DDR2 RAM for the GPU. I think it makes more sense to go for a DDR3 based 9600GT. The Acer 5930G performs better than DV5t.

 

What if we want a 13 inch but don't wanna pay double for a Sony?

 

You're screwed

Lenovo U330 or Sony SR (not that expensive).

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=320127

 

in the UK, so no Lenovo...

 

Then Sony SR might be interesting and MSI EX300 is a good 13" with 3470. Cheaper than Sony.

 

The dv5t is a fingerprint magnet, so no thanks. The HDX16 has only one config available and is quite expensive. The FW only comes with Ati graphics so no thanks.

 

january... now i'm TOTALLY pissed off lol

 

Where did you guys get January?

 

Jayson's slides, backed up by what TorrSomaho said on page 113

 

I don't understand what Dell is doing... this (January) could be a suicide...

 

Post numbers please?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=4152477&postcount=1124

Post #1124.

(only on page 23 for me btw)

 

That's because your perpage is 50, and for everyone is (default) it's 15

 

I know. Easier to read forum threads when there are more posts per page.

 

D@mn!
I went to the british Dell site and the first thing I saw was a big "There's a new kid in town!" I was so excited, then I realised it's the Inspiron Mini 12...
Missed a heartbeat right there...

 

Did you read my own post? Hybrid SLI WILL eventually give a performance boost. I do agree with you that I don't think Jayson knows what he is talking about with SLI but Nvidia has said that they will eventually get both GPUs to work together for a performance boost. Might only be introduced on the quadro line considering how Nvidia disables features on purpose like the multiGPU on SLI and other things that they did.