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    Dell Studio XPS 13 and 16 - Coming Soon?

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by NuKeDoG, Aug 26, 2008.

  1. suko69

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    It was just a matter of posts before someone caught fire again with the "offer-argument".

    No offense, I wish you were right! :nah:
     
  4. vishank

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    I'm just hoping that the day it hits, its already on sale. Something similar to the Studio XPS Desktops. I don't want to be waiting a month or two before any discounts occur. Although at this point in time, I am so anxious to get it that I may be one of the first ones to get it - that is, if it is coming out.
     
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    That is a good point.

    Like when I brought my Logitech MX Revolution it broke first time and so I got new one from them and it was slightly different is areas.

    So just wondering do these small manfuturing changes happen a lot for laptops? or in general really?

    Thanks
     
  6. shojun25

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    speculations?

    Price ranging between 1100-1250 for basic models
    Centrino 2 chips
    Switchable graphics

    LED backlit screen
    Thin profile
    Touch-sensitive multimedia buttons
    Slot drive
    Gigabit ethernet (HOPEFULLY)
    VGA and HDMI
    eSATA port (but I wouldn't be suprise if Dell didn't offer that)
    Backlit keyboard
    1.3mp webcam
    improved battery life
    and they better increase the trackpad's area... I hate the M1330's minute trackpad

    Pretty much, I think that the bolded areas are the most definite changes in the new laptop. The other change is the looks. Nothing really different from most laptops in today's market, except that its gonna be the new laptop on the block.
     
  7. booboo12

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    Sometimes manufacturing changes do occur during a product's life cycle.

    Take the Studio line for example. At launch you could get it with a gray patterned lid with your choice of colors for the outer band that rings the edge of it. Now you can only get it in colors or black.

    Another Studio example, at launch, Studio models had a "topographic" pattern inlayed in the keyboard deck, it appears that recent models don't have this and are just plain silver/gray.
     
  8. TemjinZero

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    I'd just like to add onto this.

    This is even apparent in consoles. Especially Sony consoles. The PSP is basically the same console as it was when it first came out. However, over time, they've made changes to RAM, Screen, MOBO, and probably a few other things without actually changing the name of the product.

    The PS3 too. The reason for the massive price drop after the initial release was the removal of the PS2's Emotion Engine hardware emulation for older games. Even now, the "3rd generation" of PS3's is due out soon, with the new 40GB getting a process change from 90nm to 65nm.

    Laptops from all manufacturers are generally the same too. For instance, the Studio laptops used to be Santa Rosa Refresh only. Lately, Dell has also added the option for Montevina. In some cases, there will be small cosmetic changes (new colors) but for the most part, you won't really see them.
     
  9. UltimusXI

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    Well, after waiting for Dell to at least refresh their m1330 with a new GPU for months, I've just now ordered a Vaio SR. :)

    I guess you all can expect the new 13 inch model on the Dell site tomorrow. ;)
     
  10. TemjinZero

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    lol Ultimus... I know EXACTLY WHAT YOU MEAN. :D

    I just bought a Z yesterday. That means the Studio XPS will probably automagically appear soon. How like Dell to do that to us.
     
  11. cfoo

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    I doubt it. It would make better business sense to overlap the promotional offers on the old product with the launch of the new ones. It gives you time to clear out your old item. There would also be incentives for the buyer to choose the older product.
    old
    ------------>
    ^promo
    ----------->new
     
  12. Cape Consultant

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    gaz333: I did not mean that is HAS GOOD BUILD QUALITY, but that one thing I really HOPE it has is good build quality. And that fact that other companies have stuff out that has more current features does not bother me as I only buy Dell or Lenove as those are what I like. AMybe this new unit will have features that SONY et all do not yet have and then once again Dell will be in the lead. The name of the game, to whatever degree, is leapfrog. I also hope it has esata that would be great.

    Sony jumped on that individual keyboardafter the MAC Air or whatever MAC started it, and I consider that a bandwagon that simply does not need jumping on. My preference is I do not like it. I realize that i am painting with opiionated broad strokes here, but consdering that this entire thread is based on something that may or may not exist at this time, I figure I was within proper boundaries :) Dave
     
  13. L.Rawlins

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    They've already had an entire season to empty the warehouse of their old items! :p

    Sony instated that keyboard style long before Apple were prefixing i's to everything. Sorry.
     
  14. TemjinZero

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    Which means a few things:

    1. The Studio XPSs aren't even ready yet due to internal delays (...if only.)

    2. Miscoordination between development and inventory departments. (or whatever those departments are) Someone basically churned out a new laptop design too quickly, and someone else in the other department ended up ordering/mnaufacturing too many of the old parts because they were unaware new designs would be implemented soon. (...seems likely.)

    3. Decline in sales (competition with early Centrino 2s, failing economy, Jayson's slides making everyone hold their money :D... etc...) making them lose money, and thus not allowing them to clear out stock.

    4. Really bad management. (most likely)


    I know if I were in Micheal Dell's position, and scenario 2 occurred, which would lead to scenario 3, I'd have told R&D to go and make Montevina fit in those excess XPS1330 and XPS1530 cases. I frankly see no issues with the case design, and don't see why this wasn't considered.
    This leaves a surplus of mobos, wireless cards, and CPUs... with which I'd have also told R&D, "go stuff these in some new low-end laptop and get rid of em asap."
     
  15. atbnet

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    They shouldn't have that much inventory left unless the person in charge really dropped the ball. In fact they should be to the point where their supply of older parts is drying up.
     
  16. Cape Consultant

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    L. Rawlins, I stand corrected :) I really do not keep up much with MACS and Sony's.

    I am a Dell, Lenovo, or in an emergency, an HP man.

    Man, there are sure are many opinions as to why these are not out yet. And no one has mentioned that it could be that SOMETIMES, good things take time. The design, manufacturing of a new laptop is no easy task even on a good day. And having the desire to actually fix problems that ARE found in testing is also too rare, or so it seems at times.

    Around where I live, I KNOW how many people have and like their Dell's. So, bad planning, or bad management, or bad products aside, they for sure MUST BE DOING SOMETHING right.

    All the above said, I as much as anyone, hope that sometime today the info is put up on Dell's site and they are ready to be BOUGHT :) Dave

    PS, Is it possible that this thread has set some sort of record for longest thread for non-existent laptops?
     
  17. ladycloud

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    The New Dell machine is called "Dell Studio 1640". Can't say a lot because of the NDA but will help out those who have been waiting for this machine with tips about the specs and looks.

    Just wait for a week.
     
  18. TemjinZero

    TemjinZero Notebook Evangelist

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    MORE RUMORS! YAAAY SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT YES?

    :D

    Studio 1640 huh? Hmm... so... XPS is no longer a sub-brand? Or did these units just get totally watered down from the original concepts?
     
  19. ladycloud

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    ^ No specs as such were mentioned or any clue about it was given. Just that they are terming it 'Premium' laptop.
    "Dell Studio XPS 1640 Premium" laptop is what you are looking for. From the surveys done before signing the nda, the machine looks very high end but nothing can be confirmed because i don't have a copy of specs or the notebook infront of me. In a week's time, i can clear all your doubts and try not breaking the nda. Infact no one had any idea which laptop is this. Its only in the last few days that this info was revealed.
     
  20. TorrSamaho

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    That's nice. But could you say anything about the release date? Will it be in january or before christmas?
     
  21. TemjinZero

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    Very interesting indeed.

    Based on what you've said, looks like Dell's entering trial phases with the Studio XPS, which did mean they had internal delays with the design after all, and it may not have been a stock backlog issue like many of us originally assumed.

    I'm not too worried about the components or internals, but if possible, please disclose info on things like how warm the laptop gets in operation or how nice the screen/casing looks, and whatever else you can spare.

    Judging by the date of these closed agreements on trials... I'd say it's possible these will be released... right at christmas? Give or take a couple weeks? Assuming no further delays, of course. I'm going to assume about a week given for your trials... maybe less... then back to development for final design checks and problem fixing, and then release. Alloting a month from when you'll be able to test a working model of the unit to it's release seems reasonable to me.
     
  22. atbnet

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    Maybe they'll have something geared up for the holiday season and released during Thanksgiving week. That's the only possibility I can see if they are trying to make Christmas sales.
     
  23. TemjinZero

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    Well atbnet... they pretty much take your money right away. I'm sure they'll get backlogged a couple months with orders or something, but at least they'll be able to take everyone's money before christmas... (Just in time for those end of the bonuses...)
     
  24. Cin'

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    If not the week of Thanksgiving..I would ponder the 2nd week of December for a potential release...If that happens ;) :)

    Would be a good thing! :D


    Cin ;) :)
     
  25. L.Rawlins

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    But what about the '1340'? That notebooks predecessor is even older.
     
  26. owais

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    i "think" they might have them out before christmas cus thats where most sales are.
     
  27. McBrainless

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    ooo, something new. Well I'll wait til January, then it's T500 or new XPS.
     
  28. brandi

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    anyone knows what are delivery times of dell in canada? weeks of months? i'm asking it because i wanted to know if we're going to wait until february or march before they'll be delivered (if new xpss are coming on january)

    thanks!
     
  29. TemjinZero

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    ...Well... lately, Dell has been shafting Canadians (we just got Montevina Studio 15's 1 month after the fact, we still don't have Core i7 Desktops... etc...) So expect one month after the US gets it, Canada will get it... and you'll probably get your laptop one month after that just by my estimates.
     
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    too bad :(
    thanks anyway!
     
  31. laxboy10

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    I hope that they offer a 14 inch version.
     
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    this was discussed over 3 weeks ago in this very thread, there must be some truth in the rumour :) i'll wait for another week before purchasing just in case

     
  33. atbnet

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    Yeah at least this latest information gives us a timetable.
     
  34. Pearl

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    NDA is an agreement for journalists or site that publish this kind of information. You are just a nickname, what kind of agreement you might break? No one know who are you :confused: :confused: :confused:
     
  35. Soulsaber

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    So....its probably not likely that I can get a core i7 before christmas then... =/
     
  36. atbnet

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    The Core i7 CPUs for notebooks won't be here until Q3 2009, so no, you definitely aren't going to get it before Christmas this year.
     
  37. ascariss

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    I believe he was referring to the desktop dells with the i7 cpus

    pearl, others sign NDAs as well, and if he posts the info here, dell will probably want the information removed, and in turn might get NBR into some hot water.

    good things come to those who wait, so best thing to do now is just wait.
     
  38. Cin'

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    I know I've said it before..and I'm saying it again:

    Patience Is the best thing for now! As, we don't really know at 100% what is happening with Dell and the releases...Only Dell knows that! ;) :)

    patience..will go a long way! ;) :)


    Cin ;) :)
     
  39. Cape Consultant

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    WOW, a 14 inch version really sounds cool :)
     
  40. plasma.

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    Anyone slightly skilled can find the original poster's Ip and track him down.

    Lol, guys, don't believe all the rumours posted even if "they make sense". Even I can create a duplicate account and make some random rumour up and post.
     
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    You mean Jayson = ladycloud? :p
     
  42. plasma.

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    That wasn't what I was suggesting but, hey, anything's possible

    I think Dell might come out with these new laptops in January to co-incide with the new 4000 series radeons. But if that's the case, don't expect anything better than a 4650.
     
  43. Pearl

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    Bah, I don't understand the problem... Notebookreview is not liable for the post of the users. Every rumors break an hypothetical NDA but if Dell doesn't know who post the information can't do anything... Jayson first did the same, the information he posted was confidential. And what did Dell? NOTHING! In addition, what could say ladycloud without breaking the NDA?!? :rolleyes: Maybe just the release date but not more ;)

    I was thinking the same but I don't think it will happen...
     
  44. Pearl

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    Sorry, double post :(
     
  45. atbnet

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    It has little to do with NBR being liable and a lot to do with people losing their jobs over breaking their NDA. It isn't something people take lightly.
     
  46. Pearl

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    People lose their jobs over breaking their NDA? Why people should lost their jobs? :confused: Which people? :confused:
     
  47. atbnet

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    NDA is a Non-disclosure Agreement and it is a legally binding contract saying that you will keep your mouth shut about non-public trade secrets. If you break your NDA you open yourself up to getting sued and fired.
     
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    Hm... this is an interesting point of speculation. Everyone seems to be hoping for 4000 series Radeons in the new Studio XPS laptops... but Jayson's original slides indicated Hybrid SLI (NVIDIA)...

    I wonder which Dell is actually doing to use...?
     
  49. Pearl

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    I know that but I am saying Dell don't know who is sharing confidential information about his product. Every rumor do the same but it exist for this purpose. Dell should know who to fire but they don't know!
     
  50. atbnet

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    They can easily find out who is putting this information out there, the internet is not anonymous regardless of what you think. And people do have ethics and if you sign a contract saying you aren't going to spread trade secrets you want your company to be able to trust you. Once you are found to break NDAs and get fired there will be less companies out there willing to trust you with their information. You have obviously never been under NDA or else you would know companies don't fool around.
     
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