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    Got my new Inspiron 1520

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by OxycontinBitritrate, Jul 9, 2007.

  1. DarkMortar

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    it is the end of the world as we know it, are video cards are going to be SEVERELY underclocked!!
     
    DarkMortar, Jul 9, 2007
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    20:11:59 You ho and last thing, last time a dell rep said to me it was gddr2 on the 1520's gf8600gt...
    20:12:41 You tought the monitoring from the first received 1520 in usa show's gddr3 clockspeed..
    20:14:48 You what is it actualy?
    20:17:53 CA SALES Ananth 1505 In electronic engineering, DDR3 SDRAM or double-data-rate three synchronous dynamic random access memory is a random access memory technology used
    20:23:01 You So it is gddr3
    20:23:26 You hello?
    20:23:54 CA SALES Ananth 1505 yes it is im sorry
    20:24:22 You np :-D
    20:24:44 CA SALES Ananth 1505 Is there anything else I can help you with at this time ?
    20:25:37 You yes.2 thing.s...
    20:25:58 You first, sorry to insist, but are you certain it's gddr3 on the 8600gt of the 1520?
    20:27:55 CA SALES Ananth 1505 the DDR3 are with certain models
     
    versusqc, Jul 9, 2007
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  3. Stella

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    It's dark here and pics in artificial light just aren't going to do it justice . . . The green is a lot more, well, GREEN than I expected. It definitely is more of a spring green than a minty green. It looks a lot bigger than my boyfriend's E1505 even though it isn't because of the missing bumpers. The laptop looks incredibly sleek all over, and the surfaces (keyboard, lid, etc.) just have a good FEEL to them.
     
    Stella, Jul 9, 2007
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  4. phobos512

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    Are you guys sure that its showing the DDR speed and not the clock gen freq? Remember how DDR = double data rate = 2 cycles per clock? So that 400MHz is really 800MHz effective? Which is what it's supposed to be?
     
    phobos512, Jul 9, 2007
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  5. Osserpse

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    If you're going to feign insults with sarcasm just get out of the thread.
     
    Osserpse, Jul 9, 2007
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  6. lightflux

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    So...time to cancel our orders guys and get a Compal IFL90/Sager 2090 instead?
     
    lightflux, Jul 9, 2007
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  7. Osserpse

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    I'm surprised to say this, but sure. At least with the Sager 2090, you're getting 512MB of grossly underclocked ram.
     
    Osserpse, Jul 9, 2007
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  8. Scypher

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    compal are usualy underclocked too
     
    Scypher, Jul 9, 2007
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  9. phobos512

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    phobos512, Jul 9, 2007
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  10. lightflux

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    Oh...nvm then....if compals are downclocked too then what's the point of cancelling...
     
    lightflux, Jul 9, 2007
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  11. Osserpse

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    Osserpse, Jul 9, 2007
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    (phobos)no, it's not working like that...we only take one cycle...and the gddr3 is supose to be 700mhz...hope they will release another batch of 1520 with ddr3 like the rep said
     
    versusqc, Jul 9, 2007
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  13. Scypher

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    That would mean the card is overclock a little compared to default specs... it seems impossible.
     
    Scypher, Jul 9, 2007
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  14. DarkMortar

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    im not being sarcastic im being serious, i am mad about this!
     
    DarkMortar, Jul 9, 2007
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    I think... I'll just sit here, and hope that when my 1420 comes it'll be as yummy as I was hoping it to be. As for people who got the 1520, I wouldn't jump the gun so fast and cancel right now. If it IS falsely advertised... well, whats Dell's policy on that?
     
    ChaosKye, Jul 9, 2007
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  16. lightflux

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    Another batch w/ DDR3??? Wtf...okay now I'm really confused...did he just get DDR2 cuz he ordered hella early? I ordered a few days ago...any chances I'll get DDR3?
     
    lightflux, Jul 9, 2007
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    His pic showed ddr3 ram. How can we be sure that riva tuner is showing the right clock speed?

    have we checked it using thew nvidia control panel and not rivatuner?
     
    majortom1981, Jul 9, 2007
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    RyanHurtt, Jul 9, 2007
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    Ok so where did this clockspeed information come from? I just looked @ the Dell site and I can't find any mention of 1.4GHz effective clock rate on the memory. That seems ridiculously high for a notebook graphics card though.
     
    phobos512, Jul 9, 2007
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  20. RyanHurtt

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    Wouldn't DDR3 mean 3 cycles? Just comparing numbers from DDR2 having 2???
     
    RyanHurtt, Jul 9, 2007
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  21. Osserpse

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    It's called deductive thinking. They list the memory bandwidth as 22.4GB/s. With a 128bit memory bus width (which they list), the memory would have to be clocked at 1400MHz (700x2), which is what nVidia lists it as being. Dell has underclocked the 8600m's memory, and have falsely advertised the specifications.
    No, it's Double Data Rate 3.
     
    Osserpse, Jul 9, 2007
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  22. lightflux

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    Oh man we need those 3Dmark scores....hopefully they're decent...
     
    lightflux, Jul 9, 2007
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  23. skynetwork

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    its 800mhz effective on the dell, but the cards with ddr3 are 1400 effective (2 x 700).

    in the end that doesn't limit the card as bad as some ppl think it does. in realworldperformance (games n stuff) you'll probably never notice the difference :) would have been great if it would have had ddr3 but ddr2 is not the end of the world as we know it :D
     
    skynetwork, Jul 9, 2007
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  24. mcs6

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    I'm waiting for someone to call dell out on this and see what they say.
     
    mcs6, Jul 9, 2007
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  25. DarkMortar

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    you will notice a difference if you want to run on higher settings. but it will still be pretty good. but just... not what i was expecting,,,
     
    DarkMortar, Jul 9, 2007
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    versusqc, Jul 9, 2007
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    I still cant find a memory bandwidth on the Dell site. :(
     
    RyanHurtt, Jul 9, 2007
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    Has anybody tried getting the settings off of the nvidia control panel and not rivatuner ? to make sure that rivatuner is not reporting the wrong things because its a dell card?
     
    majortom1981, Jul 9, 2007
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  29. mcs6

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    What does this mean for my 1720?

    Edit: Yeah try checking with coolbits.
     
    mcs6, Jul 9, 2007
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  30. phobos512

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    phobos512, Jul 9, 2007
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    you have to click on the blue ? help me choose link on the video card selection page. then go to the third tab over
     
    ourfinal, Jul 9, 2007
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    Any chances that this card can still run at 1440x900 res with max settings on most games and nearly max settings on the most demanding games today?
     
    lightflux, Jul 9, 2007
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  33. RyanHurtt

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    Lmao. They underclocked my 7900GS. It's not that big of a deal... :eek:
     
    RyanHurtt, Jul 9, 2007
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    Go to the video card selection, then to "Help Me Choose", then compare side by side.
    No, you'll be playing with medium settings on the majority of the newer games if you want decent frame rates.
     
    Osserpse, Jul 9, 2007
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  35. mcs6

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    So this should mean we can majorly overclock it?
     
    mcs6, Jul 9, 2007
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  36. majortom1981

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    has anybody tried getting the reading with another program?
     
    majortom1981, Jul 9, 2007
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    Snakize, Jul 9, 2007
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  38. phobos512

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    I see it now. Interesting...

    I'm not convinced that that is the 3D setting that you're seeing in the screenshot.
     
    phobos512, Jul 9, 2007
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  39. Osserpse

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    I really hope this, but I think we've been had.
     
    Osserpse, Jul 9, 2007
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    If you can get passed the Dell locked bios, yes. 7900GS's were overclocked to 7900GTX speeds. Heat is the major issue here though. Over-clock it and burn it up. Dell will tell you tough **** as it voids your warrenty. :eek:
     
    RyanHurtt, Jul 9, 2007
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    Please try with another program before everybody goes crazy.
     
    majortom1981, Jul 9, 2007
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  42. Osserpse

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    I sincerely doubt we'll be able to overclock the memory 75% higher just to reach what it should be.
     
    Osserpse, Jul 9, 2007
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    Do you honestly believe that the card gets downclocked to 3.48 MHz in 2D mode? That makes absolutely no sense. I think that Rivatuner isn't reading properly.
     
    phobos512, Jul 9, 2007
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    As long as you watch your temperatures that shouldnt be a problem should it?
     
    mcs6, Jul 9, 2007
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    phobos512, Jul 9, 2007
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    STOP USING RIVATUNER
     
    phobos512, Jul 9, 2007
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    rivatuner has still some problems with the new d3d10 cards like the 8600M (that is prolly why it states ddr3) and even if the card has ddr3, it is downclocked enormously and there will be no chance to flash another vga bios with increased mem-V to bring it up to 700mhz. but there is still the chance, that rivatuner shows just a pile of crap ;)

    i would recommend using ntune (forcewareintegrated overclocking utility made by nvidia) to doublecheck. you can download ntune here: http://www.nvidia.de/object/ntune_5.05.38.00_de.html (its multilingual, do not worry about the german, just click the link tho nvidia.com will have it for download too)

    but its no big deal. its quite sad but nearly all know laptops featuring 8600M GT have only ddr2 on the cards (compal, zepto, acer and the rest). only the asus g1s has confirmed ddr3 with 700mhz stockspeed. but its an ugly bunch of expensive plastic with neonlights that makes you look like the standard cs kiddie :D

    and in realworldperformance its not that much away from books with only 400mhz gfx-mem...
     
    skynetwork, Jul 9, 2007
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    That's why I said use tweak with coolbits and look there before I kill myself from seeing one more post about ddr3
     
    mcs6, Jul 9, 2007
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  49. Osserpse

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    You do realize that the only error in the clock speed detection so far has been in 2d mode and in 3d mode, only the core clock was incorrect?
     
    Osserpse, Jul 9, 2007
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  50. OxycontinBitritrate

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    Listen, I want my e-rep. :)
     
    OxycontinBitritrate, Jul 9, 2007
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