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    Got my new Inspiron 1520

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by OxycontinBitritrate, Jul 9, 2007.

  1. Osserpse

    Osserpse Notebook Evangelist

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    What are you, some sort of e-pimp?
     
    Osserpse, Jul 9, 2007
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  2. mcs6

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    oxy, install ntune and check there so everyone shuts the hell up

    BTW, i gave you rep :]
     
    mcs6, Jul 9, 2007
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  3. phobos512

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    phobos512, Jul 9, 2007
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  4. RyanHurtt

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    Just curious...how did you computer the memory bandwidth?

    Isn't it 400 (Memory clock) x 2 (DDR2) x 128 (bit bus)?
     
    RyanHurtt, Jul 9, 2007
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  5. phobos512

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    And do ATITool also. Two things that read differently is meaningless. We need at least two programs that read the same!
     
    phobos512, Jul 9, 2007
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  6. Osserpse

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    No, it's effective memory clock times the bus width in bytes, not bits. 1400 x 16 = 22400, or 22.4GB/s. 800 x 16 = 12800, or 12.8GB/s.
     
    Osserpse, Jul 9, 2007
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  7. mcs6

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    Yeah that's a good point. Not sure if he knows how though.
     
    mcs6, Jul 9, 2007
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  8. OxycontinBitritrate

    OxycontinBitritrate Notebook Enthusiast

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    Link me, I'm lazy. Busy watching Man vs Wild. I'd be more than happy to check, just show me teh wayzor. And yes, I AM an e-pimp.
     
    OxycontinBitritrate, Jul 9, 2007
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  9. mcs6

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    mcs6, Jul 9, 2007
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    skynetwork, Jul 9, 2007
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  11. mcs6

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    i win by two minutes
     
    mcs6, Jul 9, 2007
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  12. lightflux

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    So is the Dell's 8600GT just as bad as the 8600GS at stock speeds?
     
    lightflux, Jul 9, 2007
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  13. OxycontinBitritrate

    OxycontinBitritrate Notebook Enthusiast

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    got ATI tool, and unfortunately laziness and ignorance are a terrible combination when trying to figure things out. teach me.
     
    OxycontinBitritrate, Jul 9, 2007
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  14. mcs6

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    I mean just open it up...i think it shows clock speeds right on the main menu
     
    mcs6, Jul 9, 2007
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  15. OxycontinBitritrate

    OxycontinBitritrate Notebook Enthusiast

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    then its not. perhaps i should reboot like it asked me. burb.
     
    OxycontinBitritrate, Jul 9, 2007
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  16. Stella

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    What do you want from Ntune? I'm looking at the Monitor View atm . . .
     
    Stella, Jul 9, 2007
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  17. mcs6

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    Yeah...it shows default clock speeds once you open it.
     
    mcs6, Jul 9, 2007
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  18. mcs6

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    I haven't used ntune in so long. Wrong person to ask, lol.
     
    mcs6, Jul 9, 2007
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  19. RyanHurtt

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    On the nVidia website it is stated that there is high-performance DDR3 ram and "Cost-Effective DDR2 ram" on the 8600GT cards.

    By selecting the cheapest 1520 build and upgrading to the 8600M GT you may have found yourself with that "cost-effective" ram...while selecting the "best" build right away from Dell would get you the DDR3 8600M GT.

    That's really what it looks like to me.
     
    RyanHurtt, Jul 9, 2007
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  20. Stella

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    So how's this?
     

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    Stella, Jul 9, 2007
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  21. Osserpse

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    Still extremely disappointing.
     
    Osserpse, Jul 9, 2007
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  22. mcs6

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    Damnit, it really is 400mhz. Thats a load of ****. Thanks for checking up on it though.
     
    mcs6, Jul 9, 2007
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  23. DarkMortar

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    bad, very bad
     
    DarkMortar, Jul 9, 2007
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    Is the aux2 fan realy turning at 30k RPM or am I dreaming?
     
    versusqc, Jul 9, 2007
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  25. Stella

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    No problem . . . Still waiting for 3DMark06 to download, although I'll probably hold those scores until I actually write the review.
     
    Stella, Jul 9, 2007
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  26. OxycontinBitritrate

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    lol, we got POONED.
     
    OxycontinBitritrate, Jul 9, 2007
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  27. OxycontinBitritrate

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    negative, holding out on 3dmark would be a bad thing.
     
    OxycontinBitritrate, Jul 9, 2007
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  28. versusqc

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    DONT hold them plz...at least show us the first number....hope it will be 4***... :D
     
    versusqc, Jul 9, 2007
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  29. lightflux

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    So now that it's official....cancel and get another laptop? Are there any w/ DDR3 8600GTs?
     
    lightflux, Jul 9, 2007
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  30. Scypher

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    I knew there was a trap in this laptop, it's a dell remember...
     
    Scypher, Jul 9, 2007
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  31. Scypher

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    special fan speed...
     
    Scypher, Jul 9, 2007
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  32. chuck232

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    Unfortunately, the 8600M GT would already be starved for bandwidth (the desktop 8600GTS definitely is) so cutting it in almost half will be quite detrimental to performance.
     
    chuck232, Jul 9, 2007
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  33. Osserpse

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    Indeed. Forget getting the 1520 if you haven't ordered it yet. Go with either the Asus G1S, which has the much better 8600m GT, but costs a bit more, or the Sager 2090P, which has the same speed 8600m GT, but at least it has 512MB memory buffer.

    Dell's tech people will be hearing an ear full from me tomorrow.
     
    Osserpse, Jul 9, 2007
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  34. Scypher

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    I think this software is wrong too :p
     
    Scypher, Jul 9, 2007
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  35. thesgc

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    OK, just one question to those with there 1520's at hand- Did your order form specifically state any sort of RAM on the 8600GT? Does it say DDR2 or DDR3? Because mine does not say anything, except 256MB NVidia Geforce Go 8600M GT. I did read somewhere that they may have been different cards built with different lappies depending when you ordered it. I am trying to find that source again, but it could have been BS too....
     
    thesgc, Jul 9, 2007
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  36. chuck232

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    Or.... maybe not everyone is so keen on graphics performance...
     
    chuck232, Jul 9, 2007
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  37. skynetwork

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    omg, all the worries just because a bit lower clocked card? the lower memclock does not make any remarkable difference beside of a bit shorter e-penis :D crosscheck ingamebenches from the asus and other books using the lowerclocked cards.
    do not hang yourself when the lowerclocked ones get lower penismarkscores. what do you want to do with it? playing or benching out your frustration. hell, get over with it.

    games that will run completely smooth on 700mhz memclock base will run just the same on 400mhz memclock base. that is already proven. so its no big deal and there is only the completely ugly asus g1s having confirmed 700mhz.

    so go with the beatiful looking dell and get over with it, or choose the cs-kid-styled asus. the dell is still the hell of a "bang-for-the-buck". so stop whining now plz :mad:
     
    skynetwork, Jul 9, 2007
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  38. mcs6

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    Ehhh...I wouldn't order a computer solely on a graphics card preference.
     
    mcs6, Jul 9, 2007
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    This is what mine says...I ordered it on Saturday

    1 320-5639 256MB NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT
     
    stormchas4, Jul 9, 2007
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  40. Chainbrain

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    What exactly is the memory bandwith of the 8400GS compared to the newly found bandwith of this crippled gddr2 card? I'm just curios.
     
    Chainbrain, Jul 9, 2007
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  41. Osserpse

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    Really, where has this been 'proven'? Got some benchmarks that show it (both synthetic and real world)? No.
     
    Osserpse, Jul 9, 2007
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    I believe they should all either be DDR2 or DDR3. It would be very lame if they only had DDR2/3 for the first week and the other for the other orders.

    With that, I think everyone needs to stop crying about the clock speed or whatever. Just enjoy your damn computer!!
     
    Pwnstar, Jul 9, 2007
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  43. Chainbrain

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    Personally, I think you guys should have expected this. Do you actually think you were going to get G1s performance from something one thousand dollars less?
     
    Chainbrain, Jul 9, 2007
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    when i overclocked my video card just subtle that was a difference. And cutting clocks down by nearly half, SORRY your statement is a complete falsehood, there is a huge difference in modern games like oblivion.
     
    DarkMortar, Jul 9, 2007
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  45. Osserpse

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    9.6GB/s vs 12.8GB/s.
    It's not the fact that it's slow that bothers me, it's the fact that I ordered under the assumption that it was going to be clocked higher, only to find out that they lied.
     
    Osserpse, Jul 9, 2007
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    The card was advertised as having GDDR3 not GDDR2.
     
    Scypher, Jul 9, 2007
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    It actually said both.
     
    Chainbrain, Jul 9, 2007
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    Well, if the 8400GS is clocked at what is indicated by the bandwidth numbers given by Dell, it would be 9.6GB/s.

    And I have no idea where skynetwork is pulling these 'facts' from. The 400MHz memory clock will definitely be a step down from the 700MHz people were expecting.
     
    chuck232, Jul 9, 2007
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  49. ant1029

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    maybe we should start a petition and ask for $X back?????? :rolleyes:
     
    ant1029, Jul 9, 2007
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  50. OxycontinBitritrate

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    200+ posts in under 3 hours! PEEEYAH!
     
    OxycontinBitritrate, Jul 9, 2007
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