Help me figure out M1530 config!+ other questions

So what if it is samsung, the problem was only with some 1440 and 1680 screens...

 

If the LED backlit screens are as good as the ones on the MBP, I'd choose it over anything.

WUXGA [or even WSXGA, personally] makes text too small too read, IMO.

 

People can be so paranoid.

 

My friend has a MBP with the LED screen. I compared my xps m1530's LED screen to his MBP's led screen and i really do believe that mine is bit brighter.

But then again, his screen's color reproduction is a bit better than my xps's screen

 

Nope, at least 2 people on here had the same problem with 1920 screens. I think it's a problem with current samsung panels in general (or at least their 15.4" ones), the only hope you have is of getting lucky - I think about 40-50% of samsung's work just fine.

 

I thought I saw a post earlier this morning on this forum where someone mentioned his/her 1920x1200 was an LG screen.

 

I don't know how much brighter 250 nits over 220 nits. My 22" LCD rates 300 nits of brightness. When I compare side by side with my XPS screen, which has 220 nits accroding to Dell, I don't really see much different. My LCD screen have a better color reproduction. I mean the color is a little richer compare to my laptop screen, but the brightness different would be less then 5%.

I want to know the answer myself too.

 

Hm, maybe I should ship my 1680 for an LED 1440 screen.

 

What is the URL where you can you see the official nits for the M1530 display?

 

I think Dell took it off.

 

The brightness levels dell releases are the MINIMUM the panel can have. They use panels from different manufacturers, so each is different, but those levels they list are the minimum. You could get one with a 300 brightness when it was only listed on dells site to be 220.

 

From what I've been hearing the main advantage of the LED is just Brightness as the colors still do not match the Macbook pro. Hopefully the 1680 will be brighter than the current E1505 I currently own. If not... maybe I will cancel and reorder with LED despite going to lower resolution. Decisions Decisions...

 

To nizzy1115

Are you really confirm about your answer? It isn't like I don't believe you or anything. I do know that Dell uses LCD from different manufacturers, but I thought the list is maximum not minimum.I haven't really seen a notebook pannel that can output 300 nits yet.

If you got more information about the pannel brightness, I would like to know more.

Thanks

 

Say they have 3 manufactures LG = 300, SEC = 280, and AUO = 220 (only for examples). They would list the brightness as 220 because if they said your screen was 300 for the lg but you got a sec or auo you would feel ripped off and they would get in trouble.

 

Okay, I see your point, and I agree the different manufactures have different screen qualities. It depends because I have seen my friend Inspiron 1525 with SEC screen and her screen as good as mine. Actually it makes a better color reproduction than my screen.

Thanks for the information.

 

To keep from "clogging" the forum, i sent you a PM

 

Out of curiosity is it possible to upgrade from WSXGA CCFL to a LED 1440 screen manually?

 

Yes it is possible.

 

People keep saying that the M1530 is bad for gaming if you get the 1680 x 1020 native resolution because it would slow your computer down. However you can just play games at a lower resolution like 1280 or something with it naturally downing the res so that games are just as playable right?

Unless if you play a game at native res 1280 is better quality and performance than if you had 1680 res turning it down to play 1280 res?

I just dont get it since the 1680 seems to be the best for the room and have best possibilities for gaming since it can scale down for gaming right?

 

I play more demanding games at 1440x900 with no problems. I didn't expect to play most games at 1680x1050, the laptop just doesn't have the juice to do it.

 

Generally, yes. 1280 native will look better than 1280 scaled down. But it's a matter of preference from there.

 

I've never heard of anyone doing it. But it makes sense that it is possible considering they are the same form factor. They are both LCDs, just with different backlighting.

 

Someone was saying you couldn't because the cables were different. I do not know if i believe it though. Use the search function, it was only posted yesterday or so.

edit, wasnt it you - the op that had those 50 threads about this the other day and the mods kept closing them cuz you kept making new ones?

 

I don't find much difference scaling down to 1280 from 1440 in terms of blur. Maybe it's just the photoshoppers see the difference

 

Also it takes extra power to scale an image down as well. So two identical computers running the game at the same res but have 2 different native res screens, the lower one will perform better.

 

That was him... Guess he`s on another round!

 

Well, I have heard that some of the 1920x1200 screens (on the 17") were made by AU... I have been unable to confirm this however.

 

You know it really depends from person to person. I do use my laptop for programming, gaming, movies.. and 1440 900 fits fine for me. Although i would not mind the SXGA display, i got WXGA primarily because of the LED back lit feature.

MBPs are expensive as hell. They are over priced and you can most definately get a simillarly specced m1530 for atleast $600 less. Not to mention, you get extra ram and atleast a 3/4 yr warrenty.

Again, if you value "real estate" space and you do mind the brightness, just hand on to your SXGA. Just pray that you get a nice LG screen instead of a sammy.

 

Btw, it was I who started the thread awhile ago about changing screens. I have yet to try it. but the conclusion was, that as long as the cables are the same it should work because the inverter is in the bezel and therefore has nothing to do with the power output to the screen.

 

As far as I know, all the "grainy screens" people are having problems with were manufactured in 2005, and Samsung soon discontinued that line after the problems were discovered.

The screen resolution ranges from 1280 to at least 1680. I'm not sure about the 1920 ones though.

 

I find it perfect on 1280

 

You`re saying all the grainy Samsung screens people have been complaining about recently where manufactured in 2005? I find that hard to believe...

 

And it's not limited to DELL. Some models of HP laptops released after Oct. 2007 use the same screens (albeit different P/N) and have received massive complaints from their consumers.

 

Well, I know that some of the "grain" that some people complain about is usually caused by using a desktop pic that is 800x600 to around 1024x768 ... when they stretch that out onto the new screen... well it doesnt translate well. I know that the screen on this laptop is not grainy at all. It looks great. Very smooth colors, and no banding or any other problems. no dead or stuck pixels.

with nearly 2.5 million pixels .. .that is pretty good ratio.

 

I recall that i had grainy screen with 17 inch wuxga back in 2005. But I'm not sure about now since I don't own a 17 inch anymore as I returned it.

 

You really can't stop making threads about res, can you?

You already answered your question in your own post. Game at a lower resolution. It's that simple. Of course it will look worse than gaming at native, but at least scaling down is an option [or rather, is the only option if you want to game at higher settings].

 

You should go read the Grainy Screen FAQ.

 

From my experiences, scaling down vs native resolution makes a huge difference.

I suggest getting 1440x900 if you plan on gaming.

 

Not too sure. I think I read somewhere around the forum that someone had a WUXGA that wasn't Samsung. Not sure if that was 15" or 17" tho.

In any case, why does it matter who it's made by? I think what you're trying to find out is whether the WUXGAs in Dell laptops are good quality or not and not whether they are Samsung or not. Who cares if its made by Samsung or LG or AUO? If it's good, then it's good--if it sucks, then it sucks lol.

I think the grainy Samsung panels incidents scared too many people and gave people the false impression that all Samsung panels are inherently low quality. The truth is Samsung makes some of the best panels on the market and, as one of the above posts said, they discovered the faulty screens and discontinued them. It would have been nice if they had recalled it though, it would've saved a lot of people a lot of hassle. But I guess they thought most people wouldn't notice or if they did they'd return it and Dell would sell it to someone else.

 

Dont guess that I have ever seen that... as I said though ... some of the complaints are just that ... inappropriate resolution on the screen.

We use the 1720, and the Vostro 1700 at work... there are nearly 50 of them on my floor alone.

They work very well... and none of them seem to have the "grainy screen" problem. Most of the machines are 1440 resolution ... a few are the 1920 resolution.

Doesnt seem to be too much of a problem on the 1720.

However the 1720 does have issues with touchy sound. When I got mine it would glitch during music playback. Thought it was maybe Vista acting up ... so I installed XP ... that didnt clear it up until I installed SP3. That seemed to fix most of it.

If anyone knows a better way to kill the stuttering audio I would love to hear it.

 

If you get a lower resolution screen such as 1280x800 you can use the whole area of your screen for gaming at a decent frame rate in medium/high settings but you have less desktop space.

If you get a higher resolution screen you will arguably lose performance in gaming because you are rendering 21% more pixels in 1440x900 and about 67% more in 1680x1020. On the upside you will have more desktop space.

Alternatively if you play in 1024x768 or 1280x800 on a 1440x900 screen to squeeze a high frame rate out you are not making maximum use of your screen area and so the bigger higher resolution screen is wasted.

Right?

 

Stop making threads! Good god.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=248144
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=248496
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=248721
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=247472
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=248251

 

The topic is related, but is of completely different nature specifically focusing on the aspect of gaming. It is a direct question and is not related to comparing resolutions, but is a general question related to all resolutions and specifically related to native low res gaming or high res downing to low res gaming and whether the performance suffers.

 

Glad I`m not the only one feeling that way...

36 threads started out of 111 posts. That does seem a little excessive.

 

So like perhaps many of you, I ordered yesterday, says estimated shipping date is in June 10. X_X

Say I wait wait wait and June 1 rolls around or even before then, Dell comes out with additional options for my laptop for customization. Can I call in and cancel an order at that time?

Is there a particular time period where you can cancel a particular order? Does it have to be within a particular stage to cancel?

 

You can cancel and reorder anytime before it is shipped.

 

You can cancel an order as long as it has not shipped. You cannot cancel if the system has already entered the shipping process.

 

Once you receive it you can return it within 21 days of the invoice date though.

 

True, but time and return conditions vary depending on region. 21 days is generally true for US customers. Note that return of a non-defective system may entail the assessment of a restocking fee.

 

The post above says they discontinued them in 2005... This is 2008 and we still have Samsung with poor viewing angles, grain and poor brightness deployed in the M1530.

Where are you guys getting your information from?