Owner's Thread: Dell Inspiron 7000 series

Screens are different. My Nexus 5 looks yellow compared to my Nexus 4. And my work laptop looks blue compared to both. Unless you calibrate your screen manually you can expect to have different colors on different screens.

 

I don't know if I'd call it a yellow tint - not everything looks yellowish, but whites in pictures are more toward the yellow end & warmer on my 7537 than on my xps 15 where the whites are more bluish. When I look at pictures, all of the colors look like they have a touch more yellow in them, but I think it makes the colors look more vibrant. If I look at the google home page, it looks white and on my xps it looks more gray-white.

 

So I receive my 840 pro, gonna test it

 

And what exactly should we need to fix that TRIM problem? Just change something in BIOS, some drivers or anything else?

 

TRIM ist not adjustable in BIOS as i know. The problem with 840 PRO already exists when you install a fresh windows 8 from DVD, not only by migration from HDD. The OEM-SSD which you can order with this notebook is somthing different to PRO-Version. Yesterday i scan my SSD in a external usb-frame, there was absolutely no data on it, total erased after this "crash"! Now i try to get a EVO version in exchange. I hope it will work.

 

I'd like to know more about this. Why is TRIM "disabled" on the PRO? Or why is it incompatible with the Inspiron 7xxx?

 

Are you guys leaving any slack space on the ssd? Is it a configuration issue in Windows where you are moving it from a non-ssd to an ssd and Windows is supposed to be conducted differently for ssd? I've been a linux guy since Vista so I'm not as familiar with how Windows does things now.
Statik

 

just upgrade mine, blazing fast, quiet, hope I won't get this issue

 

TRIM is enable or disable on operating system (win7 & win8)

I don´t think TRIM is the problem because is a perfomance option

I think the problem is on SSD firmware, Intel had this problem (drive don´t boot windows, windows reboots, blanck screens...) with some SSD firmware x25 models

EDIT: Each SSD Brand manages trim with ther own algorithms so technically problem is on SSD firmware, operating system only turn on or turn off trim option

 

I don´n think because TRIM is only a perfomance option for SSD
even if TRIM is off SSD runs good, slower but good
It seems a SSD firmware issue

EDIT: Yes, SSD Trim firmware can cause data corruption and boot issues

 

i'm testing some games, and I can't get them to work on the GT 740M, they run on the HD, even if I am on performance mode.
I can get it work when I test it with MSI Kombustor (gpu bench bench)
game tested: f1 2013, wrc 4

 

It seems a driver issue, go to DELL/Nvidia web and try to dowload last drivers

GPU model is nvidia 750M

 

Could you please answer this simple question? All of you who swapped their HDD with an SSD should be able to help...Thanks again!

 

ok guys read this

"Samsung Explains The Firmware Bug Causing The Failures of SSD 840/840 Pro"

AnandTech | Samsung Explains The Firmware Bug Causing The Failures of SSD 840/840 Pro

This was a pre-released 2012 SSD firmware but go to comments and read last comment

hokeren - Sunday, August 25, 2013 - link
Looks like I am in the same boat as you guys, now with a broken 840 Pro 256GB drive!
Mine just died today.
It does not show up in BIOS any longer, and when trying to find i hooked up to a USB cradle, it shows a 100MB uninitialized.
If I try to initialize it as MBR, WIndows reports an I/O error has occured.
No luck so far getting any data from the drive

So clearly SSD firmware issue is not resolved yet

If you search on google "Samsung 840 pro boot" you find a lot of people with issues

 

But it should have something to do with our laptop, because I have in my desktop PC a 128Gb 840 Pro and never had any kind of problem like that...

 

yes but the problem is in Samsung SSD firmware

 

I confirm that the evo version is ok! My configuration: i7, 8 GB, fhd and 256 GB Samsung 840 evo with a fresh installation of windows 8.

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 utilizzando Tapatalk

 

How long have you been using it? Is it a 7537 or 7737?

 

yes because EVO versión has a diferent MEX controller than 840 Pro

Saluti

 

That does not sound like the same issue people are reporting... I could be wrong though.

Edit: And by that I mean the article + comments seem to suggest that the drive is completely hosed after the failure occurs, while people in this topic are able to reinstall to the drive.

 

That does not sound like the same issue people are reporting... I could be wrong though.

Edit: And by that I mean the article + comments seem to suggest that the drive is completely hosed after the failure occurs, while people in this topic are able to reinstall to the drive.


Yes, issues can manifest very differently on each pc

The key is what non 840 pro SSD has no issues on Inspiron even Samung EVO has no issues because use a diferent MEX controller than 840 Pro

So i think that the problem on inspiron is 840 Pro firmware

Maybe is a SSD Trim firmware issue, Intel had this problem in past with X25 series causing data corruption and boot issues

 

That's what people were saying earlier and you said you didn't think so because it was a performance option

What I was implying is that if TRIM was not functioning properly due to some combination of the laptop and SSD then it could be marking the wrong blocks as erased and causing corruption. The fact that it occurs on approximately a weekly cycle in Windows makes that seem logical.

And the fact that the drive still functions fine after a reinstall implies that it is an issue with data corruption, not drive failure like the link you posted suggests.

 

I might be wrong, as it has happened too much time ago, but I seem to remember that it happened while I was using Ubuntu as well. Meaning: I left it turned on Ubuntu, got away from the PC and when I got back I found the "No boot device found" message. The same thing happened while I was playing "CoD: Ghosts", I went away for half an hour and left the game on pause; when I returned, "No boot device found", and I was not able to recover the partition table by using the Windows 8.1 usb key.

So it definitely happened while using the PC as well, not only after a reboot or cold boot.

 

Sorry you are right, when i aswered quickly the question i say no because i didnt remenber that each SSD brand manages trim with their owns algorithms.

Later i remembered intel X25 issues but i forget to edit my responses

EDIT: it can be considered a drive failure because of SSD firmware, i have said from the begining the issue is a SSD firmware mainly because Samsung EVO use a diferent controller than 480 Pro and has no issues on inspiron

 

Ok i just edit my previous answers, sorry again

 

Now that the situation is presumably isolated i´m scary because there is a lot of chances to receive a OEM 840 Pro.
Dell works primarily with Samsung SSD :-S

When my inspiron arrives i`ll keep you informed

 

To be fair, everyone who's had issues has had them with the retail 840 pro which could have slight differences from the OEM 840 pro.

And I'm sure that if you have a problem with the stock drive Dell will help you out. The problem with swapping in an aftermarket drive is that the laptop manufacturer will always blame the issue on the drive.

 

Yes i think Samsung OEM 840 will have a custom firmware for dell because i know they check hardware incompatibilities when set up a configuration and when built a costumer order as part of 2 week production process.

Maybe if dell put a custom SSD firmware on web guys who have retail version can install it and fix issues.

Anyway when my inspiron arrives you guys can asking me for anything to try to resolve the problem

 

I've install mine this morning, when can I expect to get the problem?

 

99% yes

what BIos version do you have ?

 

a04, gonna keep it,

 

3 to 7 days, I guess.

 

It seems like everyone is seeing it about a week after installation.

I would be interested to see if forcing a TRIM on the drive accelerates it. I don't remember the exact sequence, but right click on the drive, click properties, then go to "tools" or whatever it's called and click on Optimize. That will bring up what looks like the Defrag dialog. But if you optimize the SSD it will perform a TRIM.

 

yes keep it because all guys who has issues have a05

use your inspiron few days and tell us

 

It would be interesting put in online document a new box to say if issues gone away if you turn off trim option

 

You can use this command on Win8 console to see trim status
fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify

If command return disabledeletenotify = 0 means trim is ON

If command return disabledeletenotify = 1 trim is OFF and you can turn ON writing this
fsutil behavior set disabledeletenotify 0

 

Yeah, let's see how it goes first. By the way, since I really need my PC I think I will return the Pro edition and just get the Evo. Hoping that it doesn't have the same issue.....

 

EVO has a diferent (new) controller than 840 Pro
A guy wrote no issues with Evo in online document

840 Pro issues are more than 1 year old you can see in this link that issues are on mac too

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5203271

 

But the EVO is a little bit slower, if I'm not mistaken.

 

yes you are right, is a bit slower but right now is more confident

 

The only place where the Evo is significantly slower is on 4k QD32 writes (and that's actually not the case in the 500GB+ models). Everything else is pretty even. It's still a very fast SSD. The power consumption is about 50% higher (0.1W vs 0.07W), but still well under a HDD power consumption.

 

Just a quick question different from the SSD hot topic...do you guys really suffer with the wifi poor sensitivity? Like, can you be one room away from the router with one or two walls inbetween and still keep decent transfer rate.

Also I would really appreciate if someone could answer my question posted a few times but in vain:
I can have access to a Toshiba Q series 512Go SSD, that would be a very nice test (not Samsung, not 500Go) but it's 9.5mm. Do you think it will fit?
I understand the original HDD is also 9.5mm thick so it should be OK but on the other hand most of the SSDs are 7mm (including all the one documented in the spreadsheet). What do you think?

Your help is very much appreciated!!

 

I have only tried that once and yes, WiFi reception is terrible, absolutely no signal two rooms away from the router.
I think the Toshiba will do just fine.

 

I'm still having wild swings in wifi reception after updating all of the drivers. I've been working on my father in law's $380 dell and it has far better wifi reception than my 7537.

 

Hi Aldo, sorry i cant aswer because i haven´t it yet
i know only that OEM Samung ssd is 7mm and right now WD, Toshiba and Hitachi have 7mm HDD models
Maybe only support 7mm, i don´t know

EDIT: Seeing this picture (7mm SSD) i would say that only support 7mm
http://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/Notebooks/Dell/Inspiron_15-7537/28_hdd.jpg

 

SSD with 9,5 mm fits.

 

SERIOUSLY?!!

My router is all the way upstairs on a whole different level. My laptop is still in production (not yet shipped).

Do you suggest I cancel the order? I'd like some feedback on this, please.

It's funny - I was going to get the Yoga 2 Pro instead of this, but I avoided it because it supposedly has poor wifi reception (that, and a display that can't show yellow colors properly). This seems even worse, based on what you're saying.

 

in comparison with 4 different laptops (2x dell latitude) the wifi is on a significant lower level. maybe a tribute to the intel adapter built in.

 

Yes, I need to investigate this because I noticed it only a couple of days before giving up on the SSD, but it's so absurd that I think it may be due to a driver issue. And when I say absurd, I mean absurd.

 

That's a bummer. Now I'm not sure whether to try my luck with it, or cancel the order.
I suppose one other option would be to buy an access point, but I hate to do that for a new laptop when my last one (a 3.5 year old Studio 15) has a perfect connection as it is.