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    Upcoming; Inspiron 1520 and 1720

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by Inspired911, Jun 3, 2007.

  1. Inspired911

    Inspired911 Notebook Consultant

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    From the pictures on the Dell website it doesn't look that thick, at least not the 1520.
     
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    nslauson07 Notebook Guru

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    Yeah, I am really waiting for the Dell University website to get updated..... Sorry if this is a dumb/obvious question, but do a lot of the coupon codes work with the student discounts?
     
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    the Compal IFL90/Sager NP2090 is a much better deal. way better, looks better, it's not as thick, cheaper, and it doesn't have the ewwww factor. i just configured a 1520 and i made a choice... i'm going for the Np2090(unless they come up with a us$500 coupon in less than a month, that of course will not happen :p ). anyone else doing the same after configuring a 1520?
     
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    dell university site???
     
  5. The Yoos

    The Yoos Newbie

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    I hope they get all these bugs sorted out soon. I don't like the fact that I've configured two different 1520s and only qualify for $250 off on the crappier one.
     
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    guru_ck Notebook Enthusiast

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    aww boo..no 7200 rpm drives offered for inspiron? =\
     
  8. FrozenDarkness

    FrozenDarkness Notebook Deity

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    kids, wait for july 4th, it's widely known there will b a sale
     
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    NiNjURAi Notebook Consultant

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    aww call for prices.. ; (
     
  10. Pwnstar

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    My desktop has been crappin out on me a lot lately so I thought I'd get a laptop as my next new computer.

    My friend recommended the Dell Inspiron 1750, and just as I was finishing the configurations and extras I wanted, the website said that product didn't exist anymore. Instead, it was replaced by a new Dell Inspiron 1720/1721, which I had no idea was being released today.

    Now my problem is deciding which one to get... the 1720 or the 1721? I don't want to spend over $1300, and I need it to be good enough to run Warcraft 3 (that's all I really play these days) smoothly. I assume the video card and RAM upgrade is a must? The AMD version does not offer a video card upgrade and I'm not sure how good the integrated one it comes with is.

    Suggestions anyone? I can't help it but I think the hot pink cover is so cute. Call me an attention whore.

    1. If I wanted to play some games (like most Blizzard games, Sims 2, nothing too crazy), do I need to upgrade the card? To at least the 128MB 8400M GS? How will it perform without it?

    2. Any good in spending money on the processor upgrades? Is it worth it?

    3. Do I need that extra .5/1 gig of RAM upgrade? I had purchased a desktop earlier this year with Vista and it performed very poorly. I assume it was because it didn't have enough RAM (1gig), but I also hear Vista is very slow.

    4. How is the glossy screen feature? I've heard mixed reviews on that.

    5. Does upgrading the sound card make much of a difference? Or is it not noticeable to be worth it?

    6. Can I downgrade from Vista to XP? I did not like Vista before and I am very comfortable on XP and would like to keep it. Would that be a hassle? Do I need to go buy a copy of XP for that?

    Thanks.
     
  11. ColdSoul

    ColdSoul Notebook Consultant

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    No new Dell Notebooks on german website, yet... :(
     
  12. staffsMike

    staffsMike Notebook Evangelist

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    We're getting them on our sites tomorrow apparently (UK)
     
  13. mmax

    mmax Notebook Guru

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    scooberdoober Penguins FTW!

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    Those prices are unacceptable to me. They have way too many competitors that have equal or superior offerings at lower prices.

    They better get those discounts and coupons issued quick! :mad:
     
  15. Apollo13

    Apollo13 100% 16:10 Screens

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    Dell University. Get a 4% discount for $1200-1600 systems (might be off a few hundred on the low end) or 6% for $1600+ systems. Double that if the warranty is three or more years (it might well end up being cheaper with the better warranty ;)) And coupon codes do work with the student discounts - two weeks ago you could get $691 off on an e1705 and then 12% additional from the student discount (still kind of wishing I'd pulled the trigger on that deal).

    But the prices aren't really so bad compared to the end-of-line deals. I actually configured an e1720 with the same specs (except Santa Rosa and DX10), and without AntiVirus and LoJack for $12 less than the e1705 with the awesome deal :O. Interestingly, the e1720 is only $19 more expensive than the equivalent e1520 when you get the right configuration (the e1705 was only $3 more expensive).

    Anyone else notice that there's no anti-virus options on the higher-end e1720 models? I'm hoping this means no trials, either. My school's providing me with anti-virus for free, so I had no need for that option. Add LoJack for equivalency, and the new model is $38 more expensive - a fair deal for a higher quality chassis.

    (I've been having fun with Excel spreadsheets)

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    To kitty...

    1. Sims 2 should run on the most basic card. I have no idea about the Warcraft games.

    2. Up to T7300 is probably worth it if you have extra left after everything else. Above that, no. But if you're running a little over-budget, you should safely be able to cut the processor as much as you need to get in budget.

    3. I'd definitely recommend upgrading to 1.5 GB of RAM with Vista, 2 GB if you have extra left in your budget. 1 gig isn't enough for Vista and games, even the ones you're playing. If you can get XP, you should be fine with 1 GB.

    4. Go to a store and compare the glossy and non-glossy. Look for the ThinkPads. They're about the only non-glossy ones you'll find. Alternately, if you have a laptop, you could bring it and compare - yours is in all likelihood non-glossy. As to the sunlight problem - I'm sure its worse with glossy, but my CRT glares really bad in direct sunlight, too, so neither is perfect.

    5. From what I've heard, most people can't tell the difference. If you're a music buff, it might be worth it, but even then if you can't make much difference between an LP 45 and a CD it's probably not worth it. It also probably isn't worth it if you don't plan on using (pretty good) headphones - laptop speakers aren't exactly top-notch. For 90% of us, probably not worth getting.

    6. I'm almost certain you can upgrade from Vista to XP, while leaving Vista in case you ever change your mind. The Windows OS subforum would be able to tell you how. (whoops, somehow that came out upgrade to XP without even thinking...) On Dell.com, you can go to Home/Home Office and then click the Notebooks drop-down menu and choose "Still looking for XP?", but right now the e1501 is the only laptop to choose from. Unless you buy your new computer with XP as the main OS (kind of hard to do outside of IBMs), you will have to buy a copy for $200 minimum (unless you have an extra Win 98/ME/2K laying around...then $100 minimum).

    Also check out the Dell Outlet (link above) to see if you can snag an e1705...there's some good deals out there, but they go fast. And if there aren't any when you first check, try again in 6 hours or so and there might be then...the turnover really is fast.

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    What's this July 4 sale you talk about, FrozenDarkness? How good a deal does it tend to be?
     
  16. elscorcho

    elscorcho Notebook Consultant

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    $800 for a Core 2 Duo system is unacceptable to you? Please link to new Santa Rosa-based lappies that are equal or cheaper than these laptops.
     
  17. wearetheborg

    wearetheborg Notebook Virtuoso

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    Seems the 1720 now has a dual hard drive option :)
     
  18. scooberdoober

    scooberdoober Penguins FTW!

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    :nah:

    You are confused!

    The $769 is the base AMD Turion Inspiron 1521.

    The Inspiron 1520 "WITH" Santa Rosa starts in base form at $1,029.
     
  19. lemur

    lemur Emperor of Lemurs

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    Well, I've been checking out the IFL90 for a little more than a month now. I knew that the 1520 was coming and was hoping that it could be better than the IFL90 but I checked the 1520 this morning and I'm disappointed. :( The price is not competitive and they still don't offer a Linux version of the machine. I understand that there eventually will be coupons to use and that they will probably offer a Linux version but the clock is ticking against Dell right now.
     
  20. Inspired911

    Inspired911 Notebook Consultant

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    I asked a Belgian Dell representative and they told me it should be on the Belgian website by the end of the week. Maybe it's the same for Germany?
     
  21. kowell

    kowell Notebook Evangelist

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    just came out on the canadien website.. prices are OK, they continue on the same range as the now replaced 6400/1505/1501.

    I'm just really happy they FINALLY replace the ****ty hinge system that's been ever-breaking since they introduced it back in 2000... I have a 1 year old 6400 and I need to AGAIN replace damaged hinge components.....
     
  22. mD-

    mD- Notebook Evangelist

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    i don't know how quickly dell whips out it's coupons after a new notebook release, but right now you can customize a cheaper HP system which is faster and definitely looks better. Dell has the 8600gt though and HP doesn't on their 15.4" notebooks. That's why i'm not too excited. Maybe this will change come July 4th if Dell's prices are lower than HPs. For sure he Inspiron's design has improved, but this thing is still a fat cow. I'm talking textbook thick!
     
  23. YoJr

    YoJr Notebook Consultant

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    Just got to work and checking them out... I like so far. looks like all the problems you guys were having is because of the process they went through to upgrade the site. And some one mentioned about the bluetooth, I know there was a glitch on the site but yes it is built in just like a wireless card, doesn't mean they wont charge extra for it ;) It will be under the strip just above the keyboard.
     
  24. nslauson07

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    I think it really bites that none of the 1520s have a bundle option including 2gb of ram :( The 1420 almost works out to be a better deal by about 200 dollars. If only I could configure the 1520 the exact same way for the same price, with an 8600GT. I know the 1520 will cost slightly more since it is a bigger unit, but not that much more!
     
  25. speedy21589

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    Honestly, it's much, much, much cheaper to upgrade ram by yourself after the purchase. You can get 2 gbs for ~$60 pretty easily.
     
  26. Osserpse

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    How does that affect the warranty?
     
  27. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Dell just will not cover damaged RAM anymore (since they weren't purchased through Dell). Also, if you break the laptop while upgrading, or the RAM is the cause of another failure (highly unlikely), then Dell will say 'bye bye.' Just keep your old sticks in case.
     
  28. YoJr

    YoJr Notebook Consultant

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    It doesn't void anything... If it is determined that the aftermarket ram is the problem, it is just up to you to replace it. Everything else stays the same.
     
  29. Liquidx

    Liquidx Notebook Evangelist

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    hey YoJr, since the bluetooth is built in, and the website just says that bluetooth enabled ~ $20 does that mean that if you don't pay that money that the bluetooth will be hardware blocked, or is it just disabled in windows and I can go into device manager and change it to enabled? If so I have plenty of BT experience, I will save my $20. But I bought a Logitech V270 BT mouse specifically so I don't have to have anything plugged in, so I definitely want BT. Thanks.
     
  30. Liquidx

    Liquidx Notebook Evangelist

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    Oh yeah, did anyone watch the webcast? How was it, any cool info that we didn't know already?
     
  31. Crimsonman

    Crimsonman Ex NBR member :cry:

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    I read that the inspirons were coming out with 8 gbs of memory and dual hard drives in the future
     
  32. Intensity

    Intensity Notebook Geek

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    It was just some 12 minute show with nothing on it, other than showing the inspiron, which I couldn't see much, but the M1330, they way he holds it....ah....so nice
     
  33. Liquidx

    Liquidx Notebook Evangelist

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    That's cool, thanks for not leaving me hanging.
     
  34. nslauson07

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    Yeah the whole fashion show thing was kinda bizarre.... I think they were aiming it more at a general public type of setting and focused more on the colors and how they are bring about change to their computer lines...
     
  35. Liquidx

    Liquidx Notebook Evangelist

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    Does anyone know if the 8400M will run UT2007 fairly effectively? I am not looking for 100fps, but at least 30-40 fps would be nice at native res.
     
  36. TKNG

    TKNG Notebook Guru

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    Regarding the 1520 on the Canadian Site:

    What exactly is a microsatin finish?

    And what's with the processor (1.8GHz only) and the screen res selections (4:3 aspect ratios on a 15.4 inch)?
     
  37. pragun

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    I too would be interested in this. Epic seems to have done a good job with the UT series though. UT2004 ran virtually perfectly on my Presario 2500 w/a Radeon IGP 345M card (integrated graphics).
     
  38. Liquidx

    Liquidx Notebook Evangelist

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    I just looked up the possible sys reqs for UT07 here is what I found:
    BeyondUnreal has up a small article about the possible hardware requirements of Unreal Tournament 2007.

    minimum: 2.8GHz, 512mb Ram,Geforce6
    for high details: 3-4GHz, 1Gb Ram, Nvidia 6800GT/ultra or 7800GT/GTX SLI
    Dual-core Processor use: Multi-Threading is supported and should provide much better performance.
    64 Bit version available with better textures
    Renderers: Shader-3.0, Fallback-Mode for Shader 2.0 maybe a dx8 renderer.
    HDR: yes
    physics: Novodex-Physik-Engine.
    Ageias PhysX Processor supported.

    That is pretty hefty. I think I am just about forced to go with 8600 GT, but what would be more important getting the 8600 GT with the 7100 proc, or the 8400 GS with the 7300 proc. All in all, I would think that the 7100 would run my office/school apps fairly efficiently, and how much would games benefit from that additional L2 cache on the 7300? Gaming is the most intense thing I do anymore on a computer, and all of this will be an upgrade for me, as I am currently running a Athlon XP2500 on my desktop, and I don't have a lappy right now. So anyone know which would be the best config for me?
     
  39. FrozenDarkness

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    am i mistaken to believe that the ram is two chips for every option meaning that if one ram is under the keyboard, we literally have to take the computer apart to change both ram chips ourselves?
     
  40. YoJr

    YoJr Notebook Consultant

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    The bluetooth module works just like it always has. It is a little dongle that plugs into a port (on the e1505 it was in the battery compartment) If you opt for it they put the hardware in, if you don't opt for it the hardware is not there. So it is kinda like the WWAN cards, they are internal but you still have to pay for the hardware to be put in.
     
  41. Liquidx

    Liquidx Notebook Evangelist

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    Oh ok, the way they are toting it, it sounds like it's built in, then to even more go to that affect, it says enable bluetooth on the site.... Why do everytime I try to config a system it complains about some e-code and won't let me finish? I never put in any e-code.
     
  42. YoJr

    YoJr Notebook Consultant

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    It is rather easy to get to the ram under the keyboard, remove the bezel above keyboard, 2 screws to remove keyboard (more on the 172x) and then it is right there... you don't even have to detach the keyboard cable.

    Yes, they will eventually have 8 gigs max of memory not sure when though. and the 172x already has the 2 HDD options. (at least on the US site)
     
  43. JETninja

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    At least it's pretty cheap this time (the BT), when I got my I9300 they wanted $80. I held off and bought it from the surplus store for $20 and plugged it in myself.

    One thing I'm curious about, why no 800Mhz Memory option...thought this Chip version supported that...I know the FSB is 800Mhz..Guess I need to read up on it.
     
  44. FrozenDarkness

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    also does the 9 cell battery stick out (like in the pictures) or is the pictures acutlaly the 6 cell and the 9 cell is gigantic
     
  45. TKNG

    TKNG Notebook Guru

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    The 9 cell sticks, the 6 cell doesnt
     
  46. FrozenDarkness

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    actually FSB has very little to do with Ram apparently. The FSB is the speed your processor communicates with Ram, but apparently the intel chip set doesn't even support 800MHz of Ram. Something about the Ram being at half speed and that's where I get lost because it gets to complicated.
     
  47. Liquidx

    Liquidx Notebook Evangelist

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    its because DDR ram is double pumped. It only has to run at 400MHz to give you an effective speed of 800MHz. that runs the fsb at a 1:2 ratio to the ram. Now you can run syncronous which actually runs the ram at 800MHz, but the technicalities and what not get weird. This is a low explanation of it. I don't pretend to fully understand it, but from what I have read this is the best explanation I can give.
     
  48. Liquidx

    Liquidx Notebook Evangelist

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    Has anyone seen any coupons, or know when dell might release some? As long as they release a $500 off coupon before my other lappy ships or at least before the return period is up, I will get one of these, otherwise the price difference does not even come close to justifying the speed increase. Also, this question once again aimed at YoJr, do you know if Dell would be likely to let me cancel my first order and carry over the coupon since I have had so many issues trying to get my E1505 (ordered on May 14th, still not delivered, been delayed 4 times, and even had to change order because of inavailabilty of parts, new ship date= July 15th)
     
  49. YoJr

    YoJr Notebook Consultant

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    TKNG is right. The one I played with was a 9 cell. It only stuck out like a 1/2 inch. It isn't too bad... the 1330 is the one that it changes drastically.
     
  50. TKNG

    TKNG Notebook Guru

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    Aite I actually feel pretti stupid now, its WIDESCREEN +SXGA and I'm used to seeing WSXGA, so nvm about that >.<
     
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