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    Upcoming; Inspiron 1520 and 1720

    Discussion in 'Dell' started by Inspired911, Jun 3, 2007.

  1. Rowen

    Rowen Notebook Consultant

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    Oh, so sorry that I didn't put "description" rather than article, or perhaps just "news post". Does it really make a bit of difference? The point was to clarify that the leaked picture was of an Inspiron, not Vostro, that is all.

    What's even weaker is to think that any laptop maker is going to put a numberpad on a 15.4" notebook. However, if you were speaking of the 1720, I don't think we have any confirmation of the keyboard layout yet.

    Not sure why it didn't post the full link, but here it is again:
    http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/06/dell-reportedly-set-to-release-new-inspiron-vostro-laptops/
     
  2. lemur

    lemur Emperor of Lemurs

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    The original post that started this thread said the card would be a GeForce Go 8600M GT (256 MB) But the screenshot says 8400M GS. That's a significant difference. We may be getting information from sources that do not have the full specs yet. Heck, the Compal IFL90 is supposed to be released by mid-June and the American distributors don't know whether the vid card will be a 8600M GS or GT.
     
  3. Rowen

    Rowen Notebook Consultant

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    What is that screenshot anyway? A Vista benchmark from someone who actually owns one?
     
  4. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    That is probably a doctored or leaked benchmark. That being said, the 8600 is a very real possibility as it was designed with the 15.4" notebook in mind. Dell has been lacking a performance 15.4" laptop for a LONG time.
     
  5. rbg08

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    Yes, but considering the E1505 only had a Go 7300 and the HP 6500t has the 8400M GS, I think it's very likely the E1520 will only have the 8400M GS as well. :(
     
  6. mD-

    mD- Notebook Evangelist

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    that's what I'm thinking too. I would liked if HP would just use the 8400gt instead. Sigh =[
     
  7. Redline

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    Its likely that they will offer another card in between the Intel GMA and the 8600M GT. That would explain why there is an 8400M GS.
     
  8. mD-

    mD- Notebook Evangelist

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    some some of you really think that dell will go through the 8600gt. Well I hope so because that's my first worry. My second worry is the price of the inspiron's.
     
  9. fuglord

    fuglord Newbie

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    I hope Dell won't be as incompletely slow delivering the new Inspirons as they are the Latitudes in Canada.
     
  10. Homer_Jay_Thompson

    Homer_Jay_Thompson blathering blatherskite

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    If you live close to the American border, you can have it shipped to a friend. Make sure it is a friend you can trust. :)
     
  11. thejedimaster

    thejedimaster Notebook Consultant

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    Make sure it is a friend you can trust
    good one!

    any pics of the inside of the 15or 17?
    The style is a complete makeover for the better but it looks like some sager NB..no?
    btw, is that matte paint on top? what about screen rez? any 4:3's?
     
  12. JaHoe

    JaHoe Notebook Guru

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    [​IMG]


    Does anyone know, which interface this is?
     
  14. thejedimaster

    thejedimaster Notebook Consultant

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    WTH? it looks like it maybe lighted keyboard with number pad?! FAR OUT! can it be that dell is istening...
     
  15. JaHoe

    JaHoe Notebook Guru

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    looks like the black hole in the middle above the screen could be a webcam?
     
  16. Rowen

    Rowen Notebook Consultant

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    Well, now I'm hesitant to wait for this. A numbpad would be nice, but on a 15.4" would be too cramped I would think. And although the Inspiron keyboard I'm sure is not as good as the ThinkPads, at least they also had the Ins/Del/Home/End/Pg Up/Down arranged in the same way as you would find on a desktop keyboard. I've only seen this on the Inspirons and the Thinkpads to date, and now it appears Dell is doing away with this beneficial layout.

    The external shot of the new line looked promising, but now the internal is as or more ugly than before. And still a VGA port? Why move it to the right side? Others may not agree, but keeping those video-out ports in the back kept the cords from being so obtrusive like on other notebooks.
     
  17. rbg08

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    The internal shot is the 17" Inspiron 1720, not the 15.4" Inspiron 1520.
     
  18. Rowen

    Rowen Notebook Consultant

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    You never know though....that new MSI GX600 is a 15.4" and has a numbpad
     
  19. thejedimaster

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    Cmon Rowen..don't compare it to Dell..MSI have terrible laptops..
    I agree with you on the VGA port..
     
  20. chuck232

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    That's definitely a 17" version shot - the proportions of the keys to the laptop otherwise would be messed. The keys would be tiny if that were a 15.4". The touchpad's waayyy off center as well (lined up with the alpha section of the keyboard). I'd say it looks better than the white-bumper design available right now, but not terribly enticing. It looks rather.... too plain, although I'd probably prefer that to gaudy.
     
  21. Rowen

    Rowen Notebook Consultant

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    well I can't comment on MSI's quality, but the new GX600 posted on the front page of this site sure is ugly. How they fit a numbpad on that 15.4" notebook and kept it at only 5.3 lbs, I do not know - regardless, I think it's a bad idea.
     
  22. YoJr

    YoJr Notebook Consultant

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    I read through most of the post and didn't see the info. There will be a 14" 15" and 17" models. Release dates of 6/26 for 152x 172x and 6/28 for the 1420. models will be the 1420, 1520, 1521, 1720, 1721. the xxx1 is the amd, xxx0 is the intel. The 172x will be adding a ten key to the keyboard. I can't remember if there is going to be a 1421 or not. It looks like they are going to keep a simular option for the Quicksnap tops (custom color tops). Pricing will be about the same of the current line. The internal components really are not changing much. they are mostly just an update to the latest technology but not adding price. They will keep the discrete video card options. There is no talk about changing the XPS line but with the updates to the 172x I would assume they would add the ten key to the xps 17". (At least I would hope). plus there hasn't been a big change in that line lately save the 720 and the addition of the H2c. I have personally seen and played with the new line and they are beautiful. The only complaint I have is they are changing the placment of the battery. If you remember the old 740m and how the battery stuck out the back about half an inch.... well, that is now a feature on the new line. It doesn't add to much to the back but I am sure there will be complaints about it. Battery life and size are planned to stay the same (6cell, 9 Cell). Heating issues have been a BIG point on the new line. they have redesigned the placement of the heat pipes/sinks, and fan. they run much color then their replacments. Hope this info is helpful. If you have more. Dell agents to have the information as long as you can talk to someone that knows where to get it. I beleive they are starting to train tech agents on them soon.
     
  23. YoJr

    YoJr Notebook Consultant

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    Yes, there is going to be a built in webcam on them. they is also going to be a IRDA port and keeping the sd reader (which I love teamed with the vista ready boost feature) othere then that there is not much added goodies. 5 usb ports instead of 4, um, can't remember much more. Oh, the 172x will also hold 2 hard drives now. a slot for a built in wwan (air) card along with wlan. also they will have a card that I am not too familiar with. It is an internal memory card (1 gig) that adds to the cache of the processor??? not sure about that. I will have to look up more info on it.
     
  24. Rowen

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    So both the 6 and 9 cell batteries on the 152x versions will stick out from the back? And is that most recent pic posted on this a real picture of the 17"? If so, is the port placement the same as on the 15.4" version? (i.e. moving the video out ports to the right side, whereas they used to be in the back?) And where are the audio ports?

    Lastly, did they change the placement of the Ins/Del/Home/End/Pg Up/Down keys?
     
  25. speedy21589

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    @YoJr: You say you've seen and played with the new line...any thoughts on the build quality?
     
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    Good news about the webcam and IRDA. Those are 2 nice features that HP has incorporated for a while. The 1GB internal memory card is Intel Turbo Memory that works like Vista Ready Boost with additional features. I'm glad if Dell's new Inspirons indeed have Intel Turbo Memory, as HP stated they will not carry it in their current models.
     
  27. rbg08

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    I remember Michael Dell saying something a while back about the newly designed Inspirons having different color options, so I imagine the color of the lid will be customizable, similar to some of Sony's VAIO lines.
     
  28. swarmer

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    The touchpad on all or almost all 17" laptops with number pads is left-of-center, lined up with the alpha section of the keyboard.

    I like the look quite a bit, personally, although the photo isn't the greatest.
     
  29. thejedimaster

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    I think it's quite retarded that they off center the touchpad..I mean c'mon, do i site off center as well...if anything more it over to the right as most are righthanders..where's the logic..
     
  30. Rowen

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    I agree with you on this. But since I'm not interested in anything larger than a 15.4", I sure hope someone can post more pics or details of the 1520 very soon.
     
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    huh, if you look at that rating, why is the gaming score 4.8 (which is good) while the basic graphics score is only 2.8? doesn't gaming score have more weight on the overall graphical power? It just doesn't make sense. All other scores are decent, but look at that overall Base score, a poor 2.8 for a Santa Rose system with a 8400M GS graphics card? Vista rating really isn't accurate.
     
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    Does anyone know the difference between the Vostro and the new Inspiron 1520/1720?
     
  33. thejedimaster

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    Yeah Rowen I think with the beefed up GPU I might get myself a 15" as well ..I was holding out and even posted at ideastorm and feel they need to place class 1 cards in the 15" ( I was thinking of the x1800 or roughly that level) ..I mean not everyone who want's to play games needs a
    17"..right? On the other hand this might be a setback as many who were thinking to get a 17" can now get a 15" with power..OTOH this may bring clients who looked to asus for better GPU's in a 15" and IMO are overpriced but that's another subject..
    the next thing they must deal with is better screens.less leaking and IMO higher rez'ed matte..IMO the gloss is a fad that will soon short out..the matte screens have proven themselves for years and the glossy...well, you get more reflections than one can get work done..look at the poll "matte VS glossy" and you'll see it's more or less split half & half with sweet and low..
     
  34. YoJr

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    I think the build quality is much better then the old line. Port placement is going to be diffirent then previous models. and the answer to the batteries... it is struaght accross the board, all five models will have them sticking out the back. (I am not a big fan of it) The pictures that were posted of the outside look identical to the production models I have worked with. There will be around six color options for the top but I can't remember them from the top of my head. standard black, blue, pink (to appeal to the feminine market), silver, can't remember the others but there are a few more. I don't think they are going to be by the old quicksnap but an option when you build it (like the XPS). I will keep checking back from time to time and answer questions if you have any.
     
  35. Rowen

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    How about the keyboard on the 15.4"? Is the layout the same as on the e1505 or have they gone with most of the other manufacturers in placing the Ins/Del/Home/End/Pg up/Down along the right in a vertical line, rather than in its own box like they had been on the e1505/6400 line? If they did change this as well, it would be a big let down.

    Of course you don't have say in this matter, but any idea why if they had such a good thing going with the previous line's battery NOT sticking out the back, and the new line is even heavier (the 1520 at least according to the datasheet posted) than before, how do they justify this change? One would think that if the new ones are larger, more room to fit it all within its boundaries.

    As for the port placement, is there now a DVI port on the 15.4" as well? Or did they just stick with VGA and move it to the side? Also, how about HDMI? Or maybe even eSATA (I'm sure that's asking for too much, heh)?

    That's all I can think of right now. Thanks a bunch for the preliminary info!
     
  36. YoJr

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    Rowen, I will check on the ports for you. as for the keyboard, yes, they changed the keyboard layout. I am not sure if I like it yet or not. I kind of like the layout of my current E1505. As for the battery, no information as to why the changed it. But I would be sure to expect some changes in the near future. There is going to be a new line of desktops released this month along with the new notebooks. All under the Inspiron name :)
     
  37. Rowen

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    Hey, thanks for all of this YoJr! And thanks for any more forthcoming info you get back to us on.

    Quick question about this statement you made: "As for the battery, no information as to why the changed it. But I would be sure to expect some changes in the near future."

    Are you saying that in theory, one should just expect there to be changes in a notebook line, or are they going to be making more changes to the new line in the future?
     
  38. YoJr

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    well, by having the battery like that it gives the ability for larger batteries. IMO I think they might be preparing to add a ultra capacity battery. I think it would be a great feature. I can't find any information confirming it though.
     
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    yojr, can you tell me, where the audio-output port is located? :)
     
  40. mmax

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    Any more pics YoJr???
     
  42. Rowen

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    Whoa, update!:

    http://dellreview.net/2007/06/11/dell-inspiron-1520-review/

    I just found this listed under the review section. Is this a hoax or for real? It doesn't get too specific in some key parts, but the reviewer does mention there is no HDMI port, but that there are options for both the 8400M GS and 8600M GT.
     
  43. mD-

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    lol, look at that ugly pic. Photoshopped?
     
  44. rbg08

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    What makes you think they are fake pictures? They look the same as previously leeked pictures and the article confirms what we already knew about the new Inspirons.

    They may not be the best looking notebooks on the market, but I like the look better than the previous generation Inspiron. ;)
     
  45. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It is probably just a horribly copied pic from a source. So far I think the only pictures seen online anyway are just 3d-rendered drawings...
     
  46. mD-

    mD- Notebook Evangelist

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    Maybe it is a horrible copied pic from a source. I said it could be photoshopped because the lines aren't straight (look at the edges of the notebooks).
     
  47. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    That almost always happens if you use a low quality program to shrink the size of a picture...aliasing.
     
  48. mD-

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    good point...
     
  49. Greg

    Greg Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Eh, I try to keep it exciting...!
     
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    If you save the image or view it from its original size, the jaggies go away.
     
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