Upcoming; Inspiron 1520 and 1720

The pictures seem to be real marketing images from Dell. A few interesting things: The 8600M GT is an option, but the RAM is DDR2, probably to keep cost down. Also, the default resolution on the 1520 is WXGA+ (1440×900), with an option to upgrade to WUXGA (1920×1200). Integrated Mobile Broadband is now an option. No mention of Intel Turbo Memory.

 

The batteries don't appear to be sticking out of the back at all. Hmmm...?

 

Well I think the higher capacity batteries were the same size for any notebook 15.4" or larger. They only stuck out on the M1210, M140, 630m/640m, E1405 models.

 

Yeah, but even the 9 cell didn't stick out of the E1505. However, according to YoJr, regardless of the battery size, they all stick out of the new 1520. So now I'm confused.

 

Assuming it's real, it seems the guy had an 1520 with integrated graphics. I'm wondering if HDMI or DVI is included if one picks either of the dedicated graphics cards (kind of how it works with the HP dv2500t or dv6500t)

 

This site has a history of stealing content from other sites, so it is somewhat likely this dude stole this review from somewhere legit.

Just FYI, most of the their content is apparently direct from NBR...

 

I noticed this myself, but where could the 1520 review have come from? I haven't found anywhere else that this could have been ripped from. The reason I previously questioned the validity of the site was due to the duplication of the reviews or news articles he copied directly from NR.com.

 

Some good information here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=128610

Start at post #28. It's a live account from a Dell rep sitting in a training session that includes the new 1520.

 

I so thick! I'm thinking to go with hp now...is sad.... check the pictures from lesDelliens!

http://www.lesdelliens.com/punbb/viewtopic.php?id=3935&p=3

this link was in the forum listed up.

 

Wow. That is thick, and the 1420 is wedge shaped. All three still look like Inspirons, no mistaking that.

 

Nice find! The thickness was the first thing that I noticed as well. I'm not a huge fan of wedge shaped notebooks either, and from the pics, the trackpad looks glossed over like the HP consumer notebooks. The media buttons are a nice touch though (watch DVDs without booting windows). Looks like it's the Latitude D630 for sure now.

 

wow that actually looks good... it does look a tad thicker which is kinda worrying as my current 1705 can barely fit into the slot in my laptop backpack because its so thick...

the 1720 comes with a numpad! i always thought that the 1705 had too much wasted space on the side and could of squeezed in a numpad in there somehow. i think i actually prefer the 17inch laptop over the 15inch. i'm too used to opening multiple programs/webpages and viewing them all at one time to go back to a 15 inch screen. if only the 17inch laptop has a longer battery life... 2 hours doesn't really cut it

 

Do you have any idea what the prices on these models is going to be?

 

syn0s thanks for the valuable information regrading the latest Dell release.
I have a worry with the new C2D Santa Rosa , does it have the pitching noise ? That's the only thing that bugs me until now.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=129522

 

OK in a word syn0s does the Inspiron series look better than HP's DV series?

 

will the 1520 be have a 1920*1200(WUXGA) screen option?,

does anyone know if the m1330 would be avalaible through Dell South Africa ?

 

when will dell offer pc2-6400 800MHz so-dimms for laptops?

 

Santa Rosa doesn't support DDR2-800

 

Does it look thicker ? I think its the same or maybe a bit thinner than the current linie

Oh, and having one ram underneath the keybboard totally SUCKS

 

SynOs, can you tell us how thick is the new line?

Thanks for the info!

 

Hopefully someone can give me some credit for that LesDelliens post I made on the other e1505 vs 1520 thread - some nasty person gave me negative rep the other day for standing up for another person he was bashing.

These multiple threads on the new line is getting confusing. Any way to temporarily make this one a sticky/official? You've been great syn0s. Big help. I believe I may just go with the e1505. I may be mis-representing your posts thus far, but it seems that the new 1520 has too many negatives over the current e1505. Aside from the removal of the white bumpers and slight aesthetic change to the appearance, a webcam option, and new GPU options (that may be much more $$), there doesn't seem to be much advantage over the current line. Are these flash memory modules you speak of the Intel Turbo Memory (Robson) that are built right onto the mainboard? Or do they fill the new Mini Card slot?

At this point, the only other reason I may wait for these is for the 1420. Can you offer any insight into this one? The design looks better than the others (slightly) although the audio outs are in the front, which I know some people are not fans of. According to pg 4 of the LesDelliens post, it will offer an 8400M GS (128MB) which should be sufficient especially compared to the 1405.

It seems all of the new line will have Gigabit ethernet, a SigmaTel audio chip (which should be a nice plus - though not really sure what the current line has), and a hybrid hard drive option. Perhaps this last one is only in conjunction with Intel Turbo Memory.

Interestingly, it appears the 1520 WILL have a Blu-Ray option, and a Dell wireless card with GPS. Not exactly sure what the latter option is - is GPS support on this card free or pay monthly or what?

Lastly, have you seen, played around with, or gathered any info on the XPS M1330 (sorry, I know this isn't really part of the thread).

 

If this is the case I really don't see how the 1520 wouldn't have a DVI or HDMI port. But then again, nobody ever said the world had to make sense.

 

Sorry I disappeard on you guys. It has been a bit busy, I just started a new job and still working Dell at nights also. It has been kinda long days. So I might as well explain it, I am a seasoned Dell Support agent for the dimension and inspiron lines. that is why I have all of the dirt. we got the 1720 in our labs almost a month ago. It looks like you had a new hire post some info on here also... A head of warning: remember your confidentiality agreement. So I am giving as much info as I can with out breaking the agreement. I wont be at Dell for much longer. just staying there for some extra cash until school starts. I couldn't turn down the deal competely they were trying to give me to stay.

So on to the things I missed.

I don't know anything about the pitching noise as I have never heard it from my own notebook and never heard a complaint from a customer.

The link on the review thing didn't work for me so I guess the took it down since it was a hoax. The pics from les delliens are the real deal. Those look like my tech teardown diagrams infact... Interesting. I hope it was worth it for the person that posted it. That is definatly against my confidentiality agreement. That is the very reason I haven't been able to post pics for you. I am surprised to not see the battery sticking out the back but you can see how if it was any larger it could... The model I had in my lab must have had a larger battery. As an answer to an earlier question you can see the audio ports are on the right front. (#4 in the pic). It will also have a wireless catcher option simular to some of the Latitude notbooks (#5 on left front) [note - this is on the 1720] but the rest of the pics should be self explainatory. like I said before intergrated WLAN, WWAN, and WPAN (intel turbo memory) all under the same door.

I can't confirm the dropping of the Dimension line, haven't heard anything but they seem to be training new hires with more updated info then us seasoned agents like me. From what I understand the inspiron desktops will be the intro/base models. if that means beefing up the dimensions or getting rid of entirly, I can't say.

As far as if the new line is better. there really isn't much of a technology upgrade to it. It is adding some new features like the intel turbo memory and some newer video cards. but not really much else. most of it is features that people request but have been around a long time like the intergrated webcam, IRDA, intergrated WWAN (aircard). other then that... the 1505 and 1520 will be very simular - more so then the 6000 and 1505(6400) is. mostly just a midline update with face lift. now for the 1720 - now that is a difference... dual HDD bays, ten key, better video options. the 1720 offers more advantages over the 1705. but it is also a matter of opinion. if they are features you like it is worth waiting til the end of the month. if not, stick with the older one.

 

Hi guys great thread going on here. Got me all excited.

From what i understand the 1720 is what is going to replace the XPS M1710.

Quick question, does the 1720 have the flashing lights like the 1710 and the xps logo on the touch pad?

How about the front media buttons do they light up blue like the current Inspirons?

And how about the lid does it have the xps logos glowing with the forumula red cover or the LCD shield?

Also does it have the sub or has that been taken out?

I rather like those flashing LED lights!


The dual HDD bays could explain the thickness!

Thanks in advance!

 

1720 is goint to replace the e 1705. not the xps 1710

 

Yeah but once the 1720 is out, the 1710 is outdated...and what else is there a new XPS 17" can have that the 1720 doesn't??? SLI/Crossfile perhaps? I don't know...

 

The faster Graphics card 8700M GT.. more bling... probably look much better...

 

If thats not an XPS then the new XPS would have to have some other major enhancements to make up for the price difference like maybe a finger print recognition or a better display!

 

so what's the fastest memory Santa Rose can support? DDR2-667?

 

I agree. There has been nothing annouced to my dept if there is going to be a new xps but the 1710 will be out dated now. I can almost gurantee they wont let that go on for long. I was just trained on the new xps line and the only new thing was the update from the 710 to 720 which was a mobo update. Some one said the thickness was due to the HDD's.... it isn't. they are side by side in a bay. The thickness isn't too much bigger but is noticable. Not sure why. I can't see any logical explination for it. But I would expect an update on the xps line pretty soon. the 1710 is kinda old and out dated. plus with the 1720, it wont have the bleeding edge that Dell prides itself on with the xps line. an sli in their 17" line would be nice though so you don't have to fork out for the 2010 and deal with the monstrosity it is just to get sli. I admit it was cool to play with but the thing folds up to it's own briefcase! I check every other day for announments for a new xps line. so I will let you know when the update comes.

 

I'm sorry if I cause any problems but i want to point out that I indicated that the link I posted came from the link Rowen posted, so all merite goes to Rowen. I juste wanted to point out the tickness of the new line

Hope it will help

 

How much better is 8600GT compared to 8600GS?

 

YoJr any news about the Vostro lineup?

 

Thanks for this. It wasn't the credit for posting it another thread that I was looking for, just some help with getting rid of the negative rep points some guy gave me for no reason. I think it was SonyWhore who mysteriously disappeared and whose posts went along with him after he was berating people unfairly on the topic of the new notebook line.

But yeah, 1420, XPS M1330....anything more on these? heh

 

SonyWhore decided to change many of his posts to mere insults, and were deleted by mods as a result. He is no longer permitted to post on the forums, so the trolling should stop now.

Anyway...back on topic...

 

My dept doesn't do the Vostro's but I will see if I have access the the specs on them. I should. I will get back to you on that tomorrow.

 

Didn't someone just say the 1520 comes with a 8600 GS and not GT? In that case, wouldn't it be easier to just go with the Sony Vaio FZ, which looks better and is lighter and already out?

 

I'm fairly sure that Santa Rosa does support DDR2-800 RAM although I can't find anything on the Intel site which says so. The issue could be that DDR2-800 is so new that Intel have not been able to carry out compatibility tests.

Some DDR2-800 RAM is now being listed. I've seen it at Crucial, but with a price premium of 50% to 100% over DDR2-667. We need someone with some spare money and a Santa Rosa machine to put the two together and see what happens. At worst they should see DDR2-667 with CL=4 and maybe they will see DDR2-800.

John

 

Sony FZ comes with 8400M GT, which is an underclocked 8600M GS. So the Dell has a little more GPU power and has higher resolution options. But the Sony FZ is definetely a viable alternative to the Dell 1520.

 

how much more does Sony FZ cost compared to the similar Dell model?

 

actually the FZ seems to be the only affordable Vaio right now. With Santa Rosa Core 2 Duo at 2GHz, 2GB of RAM, 120MB harddrive and Nvidia 8400M, webcam and bluetooth it's somewhere between $1400 and $1500. So it's in the same price range as the current Inspiron E1505 or the HP dv6500. Seems fairly reasonable.

 

We don't know yet, because the similar Dell model hasn't been released yet (we will find out on June 26th)

 

Who thinks these will compete well with the G1S? Assuming they are competitively priced, who would buy this over the G1S and why? (it seems to be sort of a compromise between the style issues of the Compal IFL90 and the G1S price issues.)

 

If you have a look at the current offers on XPS M1710 in Dell Small Business UK the offer runs out the day after the 1st wave of releases! Could this mean something?

Also i was thinking if Dell releases the XPS 13" then it would be released in the new shape. Also wouldnt Dell need to upgrade the rest of the XPS line to make them look all the same otherwise they would have 1 updated version and the rest would look odd.

 

I have been telling you this... Don't be surprized if a new xps is going to be coming out. I haven't seen any specs come my way yet but there has been a lot of talk at the office. The old xps' will be way out dated by the new inspiron line. So in order for Dell to keep that line true to it's name, they are going to have to release new things for it. Plus, look how long the m1710 has been around.

 

Plus..... IMO I think they need to come out with a middle sized notebook. it kinda bugs me that you only can get a 12", 17", or 20" (if you can call it a notebook/portable). I would mind seeing a nice 15" enter the line. 17"s are nice but they are still large and the 12" is way too small for my liking. (and I am not about to fork out 4k for the 20". I wasn't that impressed by it.)

 

YoJr - Were you able to get access to the Vostro line info? Thanks.

 

http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/13/pics-and-specs-of-dells-new-inspirons/

Its not sleek, and if anything, even uglier than before. I like the specs though, and the 1420 gets a dedicated graphics card (8400M GS)

 

Vostro = Full Black Chassis Inspirons (NB and DT)

 

does anyone know is the 1520 will have a 8600 GS or GT??