1080 Ti Unveiled

I was on mobile scott and still am that's why I was asking lol.

 

The ref cards have their uses, like in small form factors they vent out the back instead of into the system. If you have a mid-full tower, you're better off with something else.

 

The best excuse to buy the FE / Reference card is that you can enjoy it now instead of waiting for Hybrid and waterblocks to release.

Later you can pull off the air-cooling and swap it for a full waterblock

 

Also true, EK usually has them pretty soon after launch too.

 

Yeap, the blocks are shipping 24th IIRC.

 

So delivery day you'll be glued to the window watching for post to show up with yours.

 

If not at work, then for sure yeh .

 

It's new hardware day, that's like a federal holiday I'm sure.

 

Now wouldn't that be amazing
I do have my DM3 and the Xeon Workstation to pass time with.

 

The information in the Gamers Nexus video's is all at once very useful, and then very confusing.

In the first review video he says verbally and in the charts that the 1080ti FE on air-cooling is bouncing around 1341mhz-1544mhz:

Spoiler: NVidia GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition Review & Thermal Analysis

Starts at 8:10:

The GTX1080ti OC on the Hybrid cooling final results chart shows 1500mhz, but his verbal utterings say it's 1950mhz - 2050mhz on Hybrid cooling (7:35 on video), the GPU Core Mhz legend on the chart shows 1500mhz - GPU Core Clock [GNH = Gamers Nexus Hybrid] in violet / pink:

Spoiler: Chart is from: GTX 1080 Ti Hybrid Results: Removing the Thermal Limit

Starting at 4:40, the chart shows 1500mhz here, verbally he says 1950mhz-2050mhz OC, said starting at 7:35 in the video.

His Titan XP air-cooled video also has around 1500mhz as the Core Clock, and in the Titan XP Hybrid final results says he is almost reaching 2000mhz - but it looks more like 1750mhz to me from the Hybrid cooling chart (2nd one).

Spoiler: NVIDIA GTX Titan X (Pascal) (Stock and Hybrid) Review vs. GTX 1080 , SLI 1070s

At this point, from the Nexus Gaming reviews I'd say 1500mhz is for air-cooling, and for Hybrid / Water it's uncertain - 1500mhz -> 1950-2050mhz

But, this other review says differently:

"...I saw sustained clockspeeds in the 1975-2035MHz range. And the temperatures were much better, typically in the 65-70C range.

Running at stock, core clockspeed was usually around 1700-1750MHz, but the fan speed was much lower leading to temperatures as high as 84C."

GeForce GTX 1080 Ti overclocking: pushing it to the limit
http://www.pcgamer.com/geforce-gtx-1080-ti-overclocking/

Based on a middle ground between these reviews for air-cooling at stock under gaming load I'd say it's 1500mhz at stock (specifications say 1582 mhz Boost Clock), and 1750 mhz possible on OC.

If my job relied on giving an accurate answer, I'd test it myself before making hardware recommendations I am being paid to make.

Check more reviews if you can't wait to do it yourself, but until you have a 1080ti in hand I wouldn't trust any reports until they converge on a better consensus.

 

EVGA FTW3 cards had their specs announced. The factory OC is a boost clock up to 1683MHz. That's more info leading me to think that the FE cards OCing to basically nothing is wrong.

 

LOL what, where did you hear that. Most people are running their FE's at pretty much 2Ghz.

 

@hmscott has been (rightfully) confused by results. Some videos were made incorrectly with mislabeled graphics.

 

The FE boost listed in my post was 101mhz lower @ 1582mhz on Nvidia's site:
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/geforce-gtx-1080-ti/

If the tests keep the load and temperatures high, then under air-cooling it makes sense the frequency wouldn't boost higher, and would stabilzed at 1500mhz.

An AIB FTW3 card that advertises 101mhz higher boost, and was tested under light load, would register higher, like that print a

Not following your thinking here. The FE boost listed in my post was 1582mhz on Nvidia's site:
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/products/10series/geforce-gtx-1080-ti/

If the tests keep the load and temperatures high, then under air-cooling it makes sense the frequency wouldn't boost higher, and would stabilzed at 1500mhz.

An AIB FTW3 card that advertises 101mhz higher boost, and was tested under light load, would register higher, like that print article:

GeForce GTX 1080 Ti overclocking: pushing it to the limit
http://www.pcgamer.com/geforce-gtx-1080-ti-overclocking/

So the end boost attained is going to be heavily dependent on how long the load and temperatures are sustained, and how good the cooling is at removing the heat load.

If you test under lightly loaded conditions and only register the spikes in frequency, then you will get a higher boost number - not a realistic number under actual sustained use load.

The results posted are confusing, but it's uncertain at the beginning of a release, that's why I suggested waiting until you get your own test units, or we see more review test results, before claiming a maximum sustained boost clock for any particular card.

 

Hopefully those should be our soon, though I've only seen a FE come through here.

 

I don't know if this is the right place to post this or not, but will the prices of notebooks with a 1080 in them drop with respect to the $100 price drop in the desktop GPU?
If so, should one wait for the price to drop before buying a new laptop?

 

Don't expect the same for laptops. Only hard competition-new released hardware can drop prices on current models.

 

So the laptop market around $2k shouldn't fluctuate that much in the coming months, I assume?

 

Read also my thread regarding prices for Storage
More than a single component in computers determines prices. Find out what machine you want and follow prices or compare the prices, support quality between the resellers. Lowest possible price isn't always best for everyone. Support quality can be important as well.

 

No, 1080 is dropping because AMD competition/ 1080 ti pricing was in the way. The 1080 will stay as the mobile flagship, so pricing probably won't drop.

Note this is probably the best deal on a GTX 1080 notebook I've seen: http://www.microcenter.com/product/475582/Predator_17_GX-792-7448_173_Gaming_Laptop_Computer_-_Black

 

Asus Strix on air over 2GHz:

http://www.kitguru.net/components/g...rog-strix-gtx-1080-ti-oc-o11g-11gb-review/18/

 

Prices just went up recently, I don't see them falling for a while, unless AMD pulls a surprise mobile release out of their hats (unlikely).

 

What!! Is that an authentic deal? I'd pull the trigger right now and buy that, if you guys tell me to!
I just made a post on the forum a few hours ago asking what notebook I should buy and unfortunately it didn't get any replies. But this is the answer I need!

 

Yes but it's in store only.

 

Oh. I live in San Francisco, so a Microcenter location isn't available near me. That's very bad.

 

Just cruise on down to LA (/s)

Well the next best price to performance is usually a Clevo P775DM3 with a 7600k.

 

At least it would be a pretty drive.

And seconded the Clevo, they're usually very high in the price to performance

 

I highly doubt that score is with the clocks pegged @ 2050 Mhz.

Also if we are to go by what ASUS did with its 1080 review samples, i would take the OC potential sated in the review with a grain of salt. This is what i have been able to do with my FE on air -
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12121890
I didnt save my FS Ultra run, but the Graphics score was at 7520 with the clocks at 2012 Mhz for about 75% of the test duration. Im not sure how long the stress test is, but ill give that a shot later tonight, before and after i install the water block.
But im seriously running into Power Limits after 2000Mhz in certain tests. Other than that,during games the FE hasn't dropped under 1986Mhz with the memory running at 12.1 Ghz.
And this is on air.
The main problem seems to be because of the power limit that the card doesn't quite use full 1.093V under load most of the time.

 

My F5 key is getting worn out at EVGA.

Spec page.,
http://www.evga.com/products/Specs/GPU.aspx?pn=1190fbf7-7f11-465d-b303-cab0e50fbdc6



Well I almost had one, during the first try the form that you fill out to order failed, there was a bunch of text in it explaining some error. When I went to order it again it gave me another warning because it was in my cart already, I called them but they told me it that was sold out and reminded me that the others are still available but I have soured to the whole thing at this point.

 

Dang. Though im really curious to see how much they have increased the power limit to.

 

Wait so they're available? I haven't seen a screen like that. Are you an EVGA member or something?

 

It was nothing special just a link from the product page, the button was called "spec sheet". They were pre order only, the SC Black and SC2 gaming are still available for shipping on the 17th, the FTW3 sold out quickly and will ship May 1st. They also dropped two cards called Elite versions for Elite members, nobody knows what that means yet but I signed up anyway. I think its just a fancy color scheme. Every video card I bought over the eleven years has been from them, 4 motherboards and a few power supplies, I better qualify.

It's all I can do not to pull the trigger on the SC black, it has white LED to match my rig and it's the same cost as a FE.

Here's the link,

http://www.evga.com/products/produc...=GeForce+10+Series+Family&chipset=GTX+1080+Ti

EDIT: I thought I posted the spec sheet, the one I posted is where you go when you click on the card from the product page.

Is that something that is measured or is it listed somewhere?

 

Usually they advertise it with the AIB cards. More like the max TDP. Stock 1080's were 180 IIRC , and most AIB's were 220-240W . With a few going upto 270W.

 

I'm a weak man, I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the middle model that has the 9 extra temp sensors and independent fans.With a rebate and free shipping it's 719.00 USD, only twenty more then the FE so if I want to use a water block in the future I wont feel bad about taking the $20.00 cooling mechanism off.

http://www.evga.com/products/Specs/GPU.aspx?pn=61e6d689-506e-45df-8202-b49614e9d54d

 

Good stuff man!
Im waiting on the Classified. Going to use a single 1080Ti FE watercooled until then, and sell the second Step UP card next month.

 

How much of a difference do you think it is between the dual and triple fans?

 

Nice plan, I have never been good at selling things but I will try to see what I can get for my 980Ti. I'm hoping to get a solid 144 FPS on my 1440p monitor in BF1, we shall see if it works.

 

Been debating buying BF1 for a while now, but im sure im not going to play it for more than a week. But if i do, will test out the performance or if i can borrow a friends account. Is that game region locked?

 

There is a slightly higher boost clock, here is a comparison.

I don't know what region locked is but I have played it from VT, NY, Zurich and Hawaii.

 

No I don't care about that, I know how to OC. I guess it's way too early to tell, but I more meant how much better of a cooling system is it supposed to be?

 

It will be interesting to see, I think if there were a huge advantage to three fans then they would have been able to get more out of it, unless is has to do with fan noise, then I could see where having them all at different speeds would help. It would be nice to grab both and give them a good workout.

 

i absolutely loved my Strix OC 1080. to me, it's the best looking air cooled 1080. IIRC mine hit around 2063mhz and i had no throttling issues.

it's quieter than my Hybrid 1080 during idle and normal use/gaming. the only time it was louder was when i cranked up the fans to 100% for benching. if their 1080ti is anything like their 1080 then i would buy one in a heartbeat.

it should make a big difference because their dual fan 1080's didn't do very well as far as thermal efficiency and OC'ing.

just have a look at their 1xxx-series threads over at the EVGA forum.

 

That is weird because my Hybrid FTW was much quieter than my Strix OC. The Strix could do a max of 2088 and the FTW Hybrid was easily holding 2126 - 2139 in games and 2164 - 2202 in benches.
The Strix is definitely a better looking card though.

 

I haven't seen numbers on this posted anywhere yet.

 

i think noise levels really are a YMMV-type of thing that has alot to do with your case and fan setup. u also have to note that i replaced my Hybrid's stock fan with an EK Vardar F4-120ER that can ramp up to 2200RPM. i have it spinning around 60%-65% at idle because my Hybrid's radiator sits where the stock exhaust was. it's not alot noisier. u just hear alot more air being moved compared to the stock 120mm exhaust fan.

another thing is that i had my Strix OC's fans set to be completely off below 30*c. so during idle, light use, and non-GPU intensive games like League of Legends, the card emitted 0 dB's.

before i built my system, i did alot of research on cases and airflow was one of my biggest factors when i chose my Switch 810. the 2 140mm intake fans, and the 2 140mm fans that are inside the case, are pointed directly at the GPU area. i'm sure that's why my Strix OC's temps were alot lower than most people all over the internet.

our OC numbers are pretty similar for both cards. my first Hybrid OC'd like ass, so i returned that one. my 2nd one OC's very well, though.

 

True that.
On my Radiator i had the Noctua 3000rpm ippc fans in push pull. And they were linked to the CPU temps. So they barely spun up more than 1500rpm. And on my strix i never had the fans turn off, i think that was one of the reasons why it would have been nosier.
Also i think i had a lemon Strix OC, since it never could sustain anything more than 2088Mhz, even with the unlocked BIOS pumping in a lot of voltage and the temps being sub 45C.

Even my 1080Ti currently isnt one of the best ones out there - http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12155320. (From what i have see, the first batch GPU's are doing 2100Mhz on water easily) , mine tops out at 2075Mhz under water. I still need to power mod it for any proper benchmarks like FS Ultra and TimeSpy, since they are hitting the power wall instantly. Waiting on the Classified, for actually over clocking.

As for the Airflow, its pretty good in my Define R5 - 3 x Vardar 3000rpm 140mm fans uptop as intake, another vardar at the back as intake + one low speed SP120 at the bottom of the case as intake pointed directly at the GPU ( This was mainly for when i had the Strix and the FTW Hyrbid) and 4 x 140mm Noctua 3000rpm ippc's on the 280mm radiator pushing air out the front of the case. Still need to add my 320mm Rad to the loop.

But im seriously skeptical of ASUS and NVIDIA both, because of their review samples showing lofty Overclocks, and then with barely 10% of the people on most of the forums, barely coming close to those clocks.
But we do need a Power Unlocked BIOS.

 

@DukeCLR The FTW3 is up for Pre Order again.

 

F***! I literally was changing my shipping address and they ran out of stock.

Super super pissed off right now, wtfh.

 

Damn, if i knew you were looking for one as well, would have tagged you even earlier.

 

Yeah I guess my questions about it weren't clear enough that I wanted to buy. It's cool I'm autonotified but was away from my email.

The price was my concern, $750 is fine though.

It's my thread I have to buy it