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    *Official* NBR Desktop Overclocker's Lounge [laptop owners welcome, too]

    Discussion in 'Desktop Hardware' started by Mr. Fox, Nov 5, 2017.

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    Actually he's very safe because he's in a complete harness.OSHA is very strict on safety. He has no fear of heights just respect.
     
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    Great scores! Even greater to hear that your son is doing well.

    I wonder if the mod will run a valid (that registers) test like what @Mr. Fox said... Great numbers nonetheless...especially since there wasn't any crazy OC applied in that TSE run.

    Right now I have 2x KP's and 2x 2080Ti FTW3's. One of the FTW3's almost sold, along with my 1080Ti w/ a full block.

    Edit: Just noticed that it was 'sajin' who posted that run lol... Let me reach out to him...
     
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    Thank you Brother.
     
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    Wish me good luck, guys.

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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Great stuff! I've been flushing my loop as well haha... Is that a EK-XRES 140 Revo D5 pump there that I see? :)
     
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    looking good, bro :vbthumbsup:
     
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    Correct! W/ Sleeved cables :).
    Thank you! It's not perfect though, but since it's my first time I'm pretty happy with the result. No leaks whatsoever 10 hours flowing
     
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    A movie reel of "unleashing the potential" goodness...

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    @Mr. Fox a clip of the movie scene in route to you Brother. :D
     
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    I hope you guys aren't getting weary of me posting my benches here as well as HWBOT. This is my best 3DMark 11 yet. :D Capture3.JPG
     
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    No, not at all. Keep going, bro! Great score. :)
     
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    Thanks for the encouragement Brother. I wish I could get physics scores like you do.
     
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    My best Vantage also. Boy she's smokin' today. Capture3.JPG
     
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    Not my best Orange, but my best Blue and Cyan... ~887W pulled from the wall in the Blue Room benchmark. 2250 core/8500 memory.

    https://www.3dmark.com/vrpor/325850
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    https://www.3dmark.com/vrpcr/29635
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    https://www.3dmark.com/vrpbr/58588
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    Still have to disable hardware monitoring in the benchmark options or the run completes with no score and an error. Has been that way since November or December 2018. And, the Orange Room score is always higher if you launch it directly from the opening page. If you click on benchmarks and select it from the list the score is always lower. Time Spy is buggy, too. Futuremark needs to fix their buggy "latest and greatest" 3DMark junk. 3DMark 11 and Vantage are far more stable products.
     
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    EVGA X299 Dark rocks... especially with the K|INGP|N XOC_X004 BIOS mod. I need to run the RAM at 4000 CL14 to break 29K and CL15 for 28K on 3DMark 11 Physics test. It loves high RAM clocks with tight timings. But, some other programs do not play nice with that.

    https://hwbot.org/submission/4070331_mr._fox_3dmark11_physics_core_i9_7960x_29157_points
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Please continue! :) Our tech breed is rare as it is so we need all the action that we can get... it's always nice to see benches posted up... great scores!

    Awesome clocks and memory...that'll for sure make some KP owners weary of their purchase LOL ...
     
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    It might if they're not doing LN2 cooling. Those VRMark runs are with the stock FTW3 vBIOS.
     
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    Na, that run was just to keep the bot clean and remind our 'AW beta BIOS sponsored' friend here, (comments section) who started uploading LOD hack results to the Mobile section, that you don't have to 'play dirty' and can still come out on top with a valid run.
     
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    Nice!
    Hoorahhh.. Love seeing the power draw...
    Congrats!!!
    Awesome... Monster scores... FTW3 - For The Win.
     
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    Cool, good to see you still won despite that hack! Sounds like Alienware are trying to get the benchmark scores up on the Area 51, so that they can not look silly when they claim it as the most powerful notebook or some other such 'nonsense'!
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Yeah, IDK...just trying to keep it real for Computex. Him also hiding that 'invalid' result on 3DMark certainly looked that way.
    As long as Nvidia is holding everyone back with their 2100Mhz clock-block v3 on Mobile Turing no-one should claim to be the fastest.
     
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    Guys would this work on my Apex board? DDR4 4000mhz.-Timing 17-17-17-37. Right now I'm running Trident-Z 3600mhz@ CL17-18-18 and can only get 3800mhz. at the same timings. If I try to go to 4000 I have a real hassle. Thanks, Joe
     
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    It should work. Check the ASUS memory validation list on the mobo drivers page. What RAM sticks are you looking at? Be sure they are Samsung B-die, but hurry before they are all gone. Samsung is discontinuing B-die. My Corsair Vengeance LPX 4000 sticks are B-die.

    Yes, I think about it all the time and would certainly love to have one, but my wallet says no. Mrs. Fox would agree with my wallet since it is her wallet, too.
     
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    Whoops, I see you already posted an answer. Thanks
     
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    Thank you. It's doing a fine job. I'm struggling with finding stable drivers for Windows 10. Both of my Windows 10 installations are equally buggy, so it doesn't matter which one I boot into. The older drivers, such as the 418.XX and 425.XX that @Prema suggested don't play nice with RTX cards for me. Time Spy and Fire Strike constantly freeze or just exit to the desktop with an "Ooops, an error occurred" message on anything older than 430.XX drivers. And, they're still not stable even with the 430.XX drivers. If I enable hardware monitoring on VRMark or 3DMark in Windows 10 the benchmarks hang while loading.

    But, as the other benchmarks show, Windows 7 is tearing it up something fierce.
     
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    It might work with upping the voltage a bit. I think your ram sticks are SKHynix which are good and pretty nice overclocks have been achieved with ram containing SKHynix memory.
    Yes indeed... I've been stocking up on ram for this reason, while the price is at its low.

    It reminds me of this saying...

    "What's hers is hers, what's mine is hers and what's ours is hers."

    Although it's just a funny quote it's pretty humorous.
     
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    Yes, it is funny. And, that is sometimes how it actually plays out. I think it is how they are wired. I've been blessed with a truly wonderful wife, and it even applies to her somewhat. Although, to a much lesser degree than many of the examples I have seen. Probably just as often, the pendulum swings the other direction as well and the husband is the selfish pig that doesn't show any respect for his wife's wants or needs and only cares about what is important to him. When both defer their personal preferences in order to please the other it makes life awesome.
     
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    Maybe Joe should try a pair of these. Was only a couple of weeks ago we were talking down the brand as being sucky at overclocking, then this happens. :vbwink:

    Micron Memory Sets New DDR4 Overclocking World Record

    https://hwbot.org/submission/4156022
     
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    I'm trying to do just that but on Amazon. I have about $600 in Amazon gift cards that I've been holding onto but the price of memory on Amazon is about 10 to 20% higher than on Newegg.com. And I stopped using Newegg after their CT Use Tax debacle. Decisions.
     
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    Great TS score! Dancing into the 17K++ is a pretty big deal. It's nice to see that the FTW3 is capable.

    Amen to that. The sad truth of the darkness the fallen world as we know it eh. A lot of us Brothers here know that the only cure to this disease of destruction is to read, understand and to accept the basic instructions before leaving earth.

    Very cool and very interested... If this can sub in the place of B-Die I'm all in lol. I think SKHynix is also ramping up big time in the GDDR6 and memory in general. It'll be interesting on how it all shakes out ...

    Nice...yea sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and semi-justify the price by factoring in prime/shipping etc... RAM prices are really good right now, so it's the right time to buy for sure. I'm debating on which sticks to get next...Likely 4266 range, but there are others in the >4000 range with b-die... Easiest way to tell are from the timings.
     
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    When you talk about stability you're talking about stability of your GPU when at borderline stable Max Overclock? So you're finding that different NVidia drivers and different OS (Windows 10 vs Windows 7) affects your max stable overclock? How many notches of overclock is the effect, e.g. 13Mhz/26Mhz/39Mhz?
     
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    Regarding Samsung B-Die etc... So I've combed through several 'trusted' tech articles in multiple languages about the nitty gritty on B-Die and it's basically going to be getting replaced by Samsung's A-Die which is a newer generation chip and process like what we see with cpu's and gpu's. However, not all B-Die production is EOL.

    There will still be some B-Die production, however, it just might be getting phased out naturally once A-Die replaces it with a process that is better than the previous generation (B-Die). You can comb through the official Samsung charts here to see what is really EOL and what is not.


    [​IMG]

    We still have yet to tell how they (the new A-Die and M-Die) will perform, but it is very likely that there will be binned A-Die chips as well, which would then end up on binned RAM kits like we currently have with B-Die RAM's with tighter timings. A-Die is a lot more dense over B-Die so there could be some pro's that we don't know of yet to come out of the new process.

    It's a generation refresh with a lot of unknowns so far, therefore, if you have the means to do so, it'd be a good time to stock up on some B-Die kits ( only because the prices are really low right now for some kits) as the prices will likely rise as we near the launch of AMD's next gen cpu's... This has happened before, remember the RAM price spike when the Ryzen chips launched? It could happen again who know's...

    At any rate, B-Die is not dead. As Samsung is moving toward the newer gen DDR5 etc... what's happening is a natural transition, which means that some B-Die processes will be getting replaced, but that doesn't mean that all B-Die is getting replaced over night.

    Very interesting stuff... I'll be keeping a close eye on this for sure...
     
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    About 35MHz on core and 200MHz on memory is degraded on Windoze OS X. But, some of that is GeFarts driver bug with the latest 3DMark bloatware having known issues NVIDIA has been working on with the past couple of driver updates. And, some of why Windows 7 is more stable could be attributed to the fact that it doesn't support the gamer-boy gimmick crap they have used as a means of coercing the adoption of Windoze OS X filth.

    Good info. Hopefully, A-die (or whatever the enthusiast replacement turns out to be) won't be binned so strictly that almost every stick sold sucks at overclocking beyond its rated stock speed and SPD values.
     
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    That's interesting, recently (over the last month or so) I downgraded my max overclock because it was failing in Firestrike Graphics Test 2 - I shaved off 13Mhz off the core. I also had to take some off the VRAM, 20Mhz. I wonder if this is the same thing that you're seeing. Is that the Geforce/3D Mark bug you're referring to, or do you know if the same degree of instability is related to other benchmarks & games? I might increase my overclock again if it's only some strange 3DMark/Geforce driver bug. Having said that I used to occasionally get some weird temporary black screens (like missing textures) during some loading screens in BF1, and I don't remember having them recently since I downgraded my overclock. (I thought/think that my GPU had degraded just a notch over the many hours of gaming I've done on it).
     
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    Yes, it is primarily the 3DMark benchmarks, but I also get the same random black screens. Both have been mentioned in GeForce driver release notes, and they do not occur when I am using Windows 7 or Linux. I don't do very much in Windows 10 other than Time Spy, Fire Strike, Port Royal, etc. Those benchmarks are literally the only reason I have any use for Windows 10 at this point, and it sucks that what little reason I have to waste any drive space on it is buggered up. Everything else that is not dependent on DX12/RTX/DLSS (Windows 10 crap) works better on Windows 7 or Linux. I think it is entirely possible your situation is a symptom of Windows 10/crappy GeFarts drivers and not a degrading GPU.
     
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    You said you had issues with hardware monitoring being enabled in 3DMark when using Windows 10, so I've gone back to my old higher max overclock and I'm testing a loop of some 3DMark Firestrike tests to check stability with hardware monitoring disabled - so far so good for about 10mins, no crashing on looped GT2 on Firestrike. I'll do the same in GT1, and test in BF1 too. Maybe the latest drivers have addressed some of the problems, and maybe my previous max overclock will be usable again.
     
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    Cool. Yeah, that would not surprise me a bit.

    The only features of Windows 10 that I actually like that I can think of are its built-in email client and the Win-X menu. I'm testing 1903 Insider Preview and I haven't found anything better or beneficial with it so far. (Just installed it today to see if the Redmond Retards have learned how to do anything right lately, and it doesn't seem like it so far.)

    Edit: Oh yeah... I forgot that I think the new "Your Phone" app is useful. It's nice being able to grab photos and text messages (and even send/reply to texts) right from the desktop. So, they are capable of doing a few things that make sense. It's just a shame their good ideas are so few and far between. And, since those are good and useful, they'll probably kill them like they do everything else that people like, LOL. So, they get credit for doing 3 things right since Windows 7.

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    I'm now number 15 in the world in Firestrike. Not bad for these KP's. https://hwbot.org/submission/4158648_ Working on TSX now. EDIT: There's much more in the tank, got to improve that physics score and I know I can go higher.

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    LOL, I keep tripping my circuit breaker on TSX and TS benches and my UPS's scream at me. I have to order a new PSU for the cards and a 220/240v adapter.
     
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    I have a question I cannot find a solution to because I am incompetent.
    I am trying to overclock my Ryzen and the RAM at the same time problem is once I go above 3.7GHz 1.25v on my Ryzen with the memory OC it freezes in memtest and anywhere else.

    My CPU runs fine when memory is at stock speeds 3.9GHz at 1.38 volts and will do 4.0GHz with more voltage but too hot for me.
    Memory is Crucial Ballistix 3200MT/s LP CL16 overclocked to 3533MT/s CL16 with timings tightened using Ryzen DRAM calculator 1,4 volts and SoC at 1.087v. Also runs fine when CPU is at stock speed, tested in memtest.

    So I tested with the SoC at 1.025 and 1.125 and neither did anything still froze, so what am I missing? I am completely clueless is there no headroom left on Ryzen? I know of people who have run these on 4GHz with some crazy memory overclock.

    My motherboard is ASRock Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac with latest UEFI 5.60, not sure if it helps or not, its a 6+2 phase power setup on it, vastly better than all the 4+2 on the other ITX boards according to reviews anyway.
     
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