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    *Official* NBR Desktop Overclocker's Lounge [laptop owners welcome, too]

    Discussion in 'Desktop Hardware' started by Mr. Fox, Nov 5, 2017.

  1. Rage Set

    Rage Set A Fusioner of Technologies

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    Call me bats*** crazy but that 3990x might be option.

    Edit: I'm definitely going to need additional cooling.
     
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    I wish Samurize would make a comeback. It hasnt been updated since the Windows XP days. Used to have all kinds of plugins that worked with it, such as hwinfo, Motherboard monitor, speed fan, etc. Sadly it can only rely on WMI, and a few sripts that pull info from windows. If it still supported a HWinfo plugin, you could do the same stuff. Still cool, and fun to customize.
    SAMURIZE.jpg
     
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  3. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Nice scores. Depends where you are lookin in the bot. None should be alone :D Just hit up search this site with 2080 Ti and then click on whatever benchmarks :vbthumbsup:
     
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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    I use the search function for the submissions then select the bench, cpu, gpu and cooling... with those parameters in the 3970x w/ 2080Ti class on water it's lonely. :)

    * Ah yes 3990X's coming soon. TBH I'm getting really bored with the 3970x lol and that's being really honest. AMD's latency is just *face palm* and it can be felt. I can't wait to get back to my 7980XE ... should be able to obtain many new PR's and records once I get to it.
     
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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    I think the loneliness is understandable. There are a few exceptions, but it is really difficult for an overclocking enthusiast to be enthusiastic about overclocking a product that doesn't overclock worth a damn. It doesn't make good sense to use a golf club to play baseball. You could do it if you absolutely had to, but it's not ideal. That's unfortunate, too. If it were not so "clock-blocked" it would be a holy terror. If it could match the clock speeds of a comparable Intel CPU without having to resort to using LN2 or similar extreme measures it would be totally unstoppable, and more people that enjoy overclocking would want one.

    https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/10099618/spy/9869700#
     
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  8. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    100%. The new Threadripper's are really the turbo diesel trucks of the cpu world... It's good for specific tasks like hauling the horse trailer like we've mentioned when catching up last week, but other than that, ehhh... It just doesn't have that top end that we all enjoy with cpu's.

    I am legitimately bored with amd. That's not to nark amd at all, as I appreciate where it excels, but for any dedicated enthusiasts familiar with being behind the seat of Intel would know where I'm steaming from when I say that they are two different animals.

    The latency on amd is frustrating. I can't use or push my 2080ti to its full potential so in that regard, Intel still dominates when it comes to gaming as it is more thoroughly utilized.

    Core count isn't everything and Intel definitely is still very much alive.
     
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    Put it this way... If you have overclocking as a hobby and want to run some quick bench after work or when you have some free time then it is not as easy if LN2 or similar cooling is your only option. Not always you try go for records but instead want try out new things or like pure entertainment because oc'ing is one of your true hobbies.
     
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  11. iunlock

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    New Cinebench R20 PR ( 3970x) - 19906
    [​IMG]
    Lol I accidentally closed the wrong cpuz window, hence the duplicate. Oh well... :D

    [​IMG]
    Fastest on H20 ... it'd be nice to break the 20K barrier, but I'm happy to have broken into the 19(900's).
     

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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    True. One only needed to hunt down and install the correct version of OpenCL driver at the time.
     
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  15. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Nice to see you around Brother.
     
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    Ah Yes this is where I am concerned going AMD in the future.

    I mean til this day I am still tweaking around my Xeon X5-1660 v3. I added two more sticks of RAM (4x8GB 3200Mhz DDR4) and for Haswell-e that's pretty up there.

    It was unstable so I lowered my OC from 4.3Ghz to 4.2Ghz. Still had issues, found out it was memory. Put in 2666Mhz and so far so stable so now I'll play with CPU OC again lol

    Also need to figure out memory timings...my 3200Mhz RAM is running at 2666Mhz but the latency is same as 3200Mhz...I put it to Auto in ASUS BIOS and chose 2666Mhz frequency.

    Also have a Titan Xp coming, will be fun OC nVidia GPU again :D
     
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    Different hardware = new/more points :vbthumbsup:

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    This is with everything in the BIOS set to stock defaults except for the memory. The memory clock was manually set to 4200 and everything else left on "auto" for memory. Note the core VID is under 1.000V and the core max temps are under 40°C (chiller is not running).

    2020-01-11_14-00-0514-00.jpg
     
  24. Rage Set

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    I see you are getting that chip to behave now.
     
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    Yes, indeed. Very nice. For reasons I do not understand, it does not seem to play very nice with the XOC BIOS. Might be user error on my part. Tried re-flashing it and it did not help. So, for now I am not using the XOC firmware.

    But, on v1.09 and v1.20 even my 7960X saved profiles work with it. Only have to change the last two core ratios to make them the same as the others. Applying the saved profiles leaves the last two cores stock, but applies everything else. They seem to be of similar bin quality. I do not have to increase the voltage in the profiles.

    Did you get to play with the 7960X yet?
     
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    @Rage Set - are are all of the X299 Dark profiles I saved for the 7960X in case you want to play with them on your X299 Dark. I zipped them from the USB flash drive I use with the BIOS. I think you will find the 7960X is a WHOLE LOT more thermally forgiving compared to the 7980XE. 50x16 daily driver clocks never got overly warm on the 7960X, and even 48x18 on the 7980XE runs notably hotter.

    @iunlock - there are a few new 7980XE profiles in the archive as well, in case you want to see if they play nice with your CPU.

    Except for maybe a couple, all of saved the profiles are labeled by BIOS version so you do not have to use trial and error to figure it out.
     

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  27. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Great stuff. Thanks. :) I'll test them out and let you know how they do.
     
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    So I ended up replacing my b450 motherboard with x570 mostly because the SATA port was damaged and had to motivate myself to make the drive to microcenter.

    Picked up the x570 Aorus ITX board. Loaded up XMP and am now running 3200Mhz Cl16 natively without tweaking anything. May try for 3600 next weekend, but happy to no longer be at 2133 DDR3 or 2666Mhz DDR4 that most laptops use these days.

    I have the fans barely running and top temp is 60c with the 2700x.

    Figured I might as well get the x570 as it has PCIe 4.0 and would grant me more perks if and when ever I grab something like the 3950x.
     
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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Very nice and congrats... PCIe 4.0 is pretty sweet... What is the max xmp pre loaded on the itx? Very curious...
     
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    Reciever D! For Dragon!

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    It supports up to 4400Mhz, I only snagged a 32GB 3200Mhz CL16 kit.

    Maybe when I upgrade my CPU again the future I will spend more for higher speed RAM as well as 64GB.
     
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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Blacky Notebook Prophet

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    Just wanted to join in.
    I am running a desktop with the following 24/7 stable settings:
    X99
    i7-6950X @ 4.2 GHz
    32GB RAM - 13-13-13-13 T 1 @ 3200 MHz
    Nvidia 1080 Ti @ 2.075 GHz
     
  34. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Hey there welcome. Great timings. Is your 1080ti a FE? Great cards...
     
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    Indeed. And, I'm still tweaking this bad boy, too. I am going to have to get the die frame back on later this month so I can go bare die again.

    Welcome, bro! Sounds like a healthy machine. Would love to see some benches. If you want to join the PremaMod HWBOT team, let me, @Johnksss or @Prema know and we will send you a password to join.
     
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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    That'd be awesome. I have a custom ihs on mine at the moment and have been testing the Temps with it... The contact is almost near perfect. Bare-die is definitely on the road map... It should unleash some more goodness.
     
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    It's a real pain in the bottom to get it to fit right, but once you hold your mouth a certain way and tilt your head to exactly the right position it's excellent. I had to take it apart and remount about 6 or 7 times with the 7960X. The tolerances are very close and the slightest bit of misalignment results in poor contact.
     
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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Ah yes... I had to tweak the standoffs with washers when using the bare die kit. It can be hair pulling-frustrating for sure lol... But like you've said the rewards are awesome.
     
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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    I've been dialing in my 9900KS and so far so good.

    1 Hour - Fire Strike Extreme Loop Test
    9900KS @ 5.3GHz (1.28v)

    [​IMG]
    EVGA Z390 Dark | Single 360 Rad
     

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  41. Prema

    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    What FS CPU score are you seeing at 5.3Ghz.
    From what I have seen we loose almost 100Mhz on score on these R0 compared to a P0 with disabled mitigations.
     
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    That's good, but you'll get higher GPU temps from running GT1 on a loop when it comes to Firestrike GPU temperatures. Also I don't think the Combined Test pushes your CPU to the limit either. I'm not sure if you're doing this as groundwork to comparing your results re pre & post water on the GPU, but I'd recommend 1hr of Firestike Extreme Graphics Test 1 on a loop when it comes to comparing GPU temperatures and stabalised running frequency achieved.
     
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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Here's just a quick FS run... the Physics is in the 28K range, which is pretty on par with where it should be at. Yes, it could be higher, however, this is just on my test bench at ambient on a single rad so in that regard... not too shabby? I'm really looking forward to moving this thing over to the main test bench, but uugghh the 3970X is still on there and I still have more tests to finish before I can move that thing lol.

    https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/42923459

    Correct, I'm gathering data for my own sake to compare it to my other 9900K's/KF's etc... Also, I wasn't testing the GPU here... it was a simple test of FSE Loop that I let run while I was working on other things... I ran a little P95 (which I don't like) just to check for any errors as a secondary confirmation and it showed 0.

    The whole point here is to get a baseline and to get a bench stable setting. That's all I care about.

    As for running 3DMark tests, I'm very familiar with it as I use it almost every day for varies tests and benching. :)
     
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    You lack at least one bin vs. the physics score. Probably more like 1.5 bin.
     
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    Prema Your Freedom, Your Choice

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    Looks in line with the 100Mhz score difference of R0 Vs. P0 that we have seen from the other refresh CPUs:

    https://www.3dmark.com/fs/19226933
     
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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Yup... my 9900K's and KF's are (P0) stepping... I'll see how the KS does when on the main test bench.

    However, for running this KS as a daily chip, the bigger picture here is how low it can run at 5.3GHz ... 1.28v is pretty darn good. :)
     
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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    2 Hour - Fire Strike Extreme Loop Test
    9900KS @ 5.0GHz (1.14v)

    [​IMG]
     

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    Here's what I use now instead of thermal paste for my test benches, since I'm constantly swapping out CPU's.

    The temps that you see with my 9900KS tests are all with this IC pad. Not too shabby.

    It's so much easier now, not having to redo the paste every time lol. Just last night alone I swapped in and out 4 different CPU's so it has been very convenient to use this pad on the test bench.

    In fact, I'm so impressed that I may run it in the main gaming rig for a while to test it out. Anyhow, just thought I'd share. :)

    [​IMG]
     

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    Yeah, it probably works well in desktops due the better heatsink and even and high pressure from the heatsink. On notebook not the best option.
     
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    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Indeed... The cpu water block + the custom ihs with a flat surface, perfect scenario.

    I've tested it on the area51 and it was okay, but I prefer paste instead for that laptop.
     
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