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it was truly horrible on the P870DM-G. Almost like having nothing but dry contact with no TIM.

The thermal conductance rating is excellent, but there is no way it can work well with anything other than nearly flawless contact and good pressure.

I have a lot of the material left so I should test it again on the desktop. I doubt it will be as good as liquid metal, but it makes perfect sense if it works as good or better than normal thermal paste, especially if you are frequently disassembling systems. Would be so nice to have nothing to clean up.

Wonder how well it would work on bare die? I should find out when switch back to bare die in a couple of weeks.

Supermicro was using it in their labs with decent results on servers. They were going to use it on production systems, but went back to using paste because it is too expensive compared to paste in circumstances where the convenience associated with frequent disassembly is not a consideration. If their test results are accurate, thermals were essentially the same as using paste.

 

I had asked about using it on bare-die a while back for a delid and was told not to? I'm really curious now and may try it on a delid to see how it performs lol. As for bare-die to IHS, it should work, but now I'm trying to remember who suggested not to use it for that application... it was either one of the fellow OC'ers in the hall of fame or one of my contacts at a company... I'll let you know if I can dig up the message.

 

Hmm... yea that R0 stepping... better overall score though.

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/42930478

Here's the KF at ambient but at 54x:
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/21427112

 

Yes, please do. It might have been because it is electrically conductive, but I use liquid metal on bare die anyhow. But, I would be very curious to know if there is some other reason, such as having a reaction of some kind with direct silicon contact.

Edit: If it is OK to use on a laptop CPU, I cannot see how using it on bare die would be any different in practical application.

 

Sure, ok, I initially thought it might have been your baseline testing for your GPU before you switch to water. I remember I said to you before: I'm curious to see what you max stable overclock in terms of stabalised long runtime core frequency is on air vs when you put your GPU under water. And for that I recommended the Firestrike Extreme Graphics Test 1 on a loop for as long as it takes to reach steady state (ie once your case and/or water heats up to it's max stabalised temperature) - that way you can really see the benefit between air vs your "soon-to-be" water, also it may allow you a higher overclock offset in addition to just giving you a higher running frequency due to lower temps. So that's the kind of thing I'm personally interested in seeing from you when you switch, but that's just my request.

 

This is a completely different gpu from the other one, but yea I get what you're saying. As for the testing methodology with using 3DMark in general, like I've mentioned before I'm very familiar with it, along with the dynamics related to temps, scaling etc... I literally use 3DMark every day.

A GPU with a good stock air cooler can perform very well, but a gpu that is water cooled with an adequate radiator will always scale better due to the lower temps. I have a lot of projects that I'm working on along with some pc builds so I can't promise anything, but I'll put it on my list of things to do.

When I game I run my 2080Ti FTW3 at 2100MHz and it can sustain 2145MHz, but the gains from overclocking a GPU past a certain point doesn't bring huge gains, just more heat. That's why I just round it off to 2100MHz, which is still above the boost of any stock card.

 

Thanks, if you can that's great, if you can't then no biggie.......I like Science!

 

It's a Zotac AMP! Extreme. I went through 4 1080 Ti video cards. I have one for sale on eBay and two broken Asus Strix versions, which I hope to repair.
The Zotac AMP! provided outstanding performance. I know it can hit 2.1 ghz, just didn't bother with that.

@Mr. Fox Would love to join your community.

 

Cool. I will send you a PM with the info.

 

It's on the test bench and other than a quick Port Royal bench, I haven't had much time to overclock. I will this week, as I gave myself some time off.

A lot of excitement in this industry, on both sides of the CPU walls. I am still debating internally on my next PC project. I did say no more mainstream Intel but that 10900k 300W "problem" has me highly intrigued.

 

I love problems like that. Let the tree-huggers squirm. MOAR POWA!!!

 

7980XE @ 5.2GHz

Preliminary benches ... more to come...

Fire Strike PR - 35743

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/21537365

Fire Strike Extreme - 19576

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/43002018

Fire Strike Ultra - 10166

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/21537380

5.3GHz pass... with a little tuning hopefully it'll be good to go.
https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/43002068

 

Fantastic. I haven't had time to do any more tinkering. Haven't even run FSE or FSU yet. I'll have more time in a couple of weeks to get into my crazy go nuts overclocking zone. What kind of core voltage settings does it need for 5.2GHz and 5.3GHz? Man, don't you just love the chiller?

The weird thing for me is, the 7960X actually got higher physics scores at the same clock speed in all 3DMark and 3DMark 11 benches. Not sure why, but it seems the extra cores and threads slow it down in everything other than Cinebench and wPrime benchmarks.

7980XE - https://www.3dmark.com/fs/21511493

7960X - https://www.3dmark.com/fs/19438829


https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/21511493/fs/19438829

 

Thanks Brother. It feels so good to finally get to driving the 7980XE again ...it's way more fun than the 3970x lol. I don't think I've ever ripped off a mobo off of the test bench as fast as I did.

The voltages are pretty respectable at 52x and 53x although it's near, but below 1.50v... I'll give you a buzz later to geek out about the 7980XE...

I have an idea about the 7960x...the characteristics could be similar to the traits of other cpu's that I've tested.

 

You can pass that 3970X my way, if you want....

 

Once I had uploaded that 4.6GHz submission, I had incoming inquiries almost immediately. For work station tasks, it's a great CPU and it's pretty on par with Intel's W-3175X in that regard, but by far the Threadripper is a much smarter buy all around for its price, availability and practicality; not to mention that the 3175X can act as a furnace to heat the whole house, literally lol.

Once AMD matures a bit with their new process node and sorts out their latency issues, it'll still trail behind with its ability to scale well, other than multi-threaded tasks.

- The evidence of working with such a new process node can be seen with the fact that AMD still has issues with their core frequency. It would have been nice if they had addressed this first, but the reality is that they're not able to at this given time even if they wanted to, because if it was the case that they could up the frequency, they would have been all over that as the 5.0Ghz is the psychological mile stone in the CPU world. The big question is, will AMD be able to accomplish this before Intel answers back with whatever they have up their sleeves? Only time will tell.

As I've said before, I appreciate where AMD excels, but as an enthusiast and gamer the natural go to choice is still the 9900K/KF/KS. Being able to run that at 5.3GHz on all cores is really nice and in most cases the CPU OC brings more benefits from the minimal gains of GPU OC.

At the end of the day...all fun stuff.

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4329321_papusan_gpupi___1b_geforce_gtx_1070_19sec_194ms


https://hwbot.org/submission/4329370_papusan_gpupi___32b_geforce_gtx_1070_24min_11sec_592ms

 

Brother @Papusan has new toys to enjoy? Nice scores, too!

 

Thanks. I try to help my son with some cheap because buy new tech now is stupid. He have more than enough money (he is in work) but spend 320 for ram and graphics now is much better than pay $4.5K right now on soon old hardware. Nice when the kids listening on us old. Not always this is possible

 

The smart ones always listen to the wisdom of those that have experience. The dumb ones "know everything" LOL.

 

Happy Camper.

https://valid.x86.fr/t7wnbr

 

Yikes spoke too soon lol.

7980XE @ 5.4GHz

https://valid.x86.fr/sb92qz

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4328714_papusan_aquamark_geforce_gtx_1070_331466_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4329534_papusan_3dmark2001_se_geforce_gtx_1070_81667_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4329537_papusan_3dmark03_geforce_gtx_1070_163896_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4329539_papusan_3dmark05_geforce_gtx_1070_42972_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4329540_papusan_3dmark06_geforce_gtx_1070_35929_marks

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4329543_papusan_3dmark11___entry_geforce_gtx_1070_19938_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4329545_papusan_3dmark11___performance_geforce_gtx_1070_17796_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4329547_papusan_3dmark11___extreme_geforce_gtx_1070_9008_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/432952...en___basic_geforce_gtx_1070_5889.76_dx9_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/432953...___xtreme_geforce_gtx_1070_5209.16_dx11_marks

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4329550_papusan_vrmark___orange_room_geforce_gtx_1070_9610_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4329552_papusan_vrmark___cyan_room_geforce_gtx_1070_6054_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4329553_papusan_vrmark___blue_room_geforce_gtx_1070_2108_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/432955...n___1080p_xtreme_geforce_gtx_1070_3894_points


https://hwbot.org/submission/432955...n___8k_optimized_geforce_gtx_1070_2754_points

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/432955...ge___performance_geforce_gtx_1070_50130_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4329561_papusan_3dmark_vantage___extreme_geforce_gtx_1070_41323_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4329566_papusan_3dmark___time_spy_extreme_geforce_gtx_1070_2869_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4329570_papusan_3dmark___night_raid_geforce_gtx_1070_32005_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4329563_papusan_geekbench4___compute_geforce_gtx_1070_177997_points



Sorry. Empty now @Prema

 

You are on a benching streak brother Papu.
Breaking the bot on your own.

 

Holy crap Papu......Are you trying to pass Mr. Fox? The Bot is gonna break.

 

I need more new/old hardware for that As I mentioned in my previous post, if you run out and buy today, all you'll get is soon EOL hardware. + I haven this type of tree...

 

Just thought I'd share...

QD4's... Impressive how little liquid is around the QD's after disconnecting them.

The QD4's seem to have pretty good flow from a quick test compared to the other QD's that I have.

I'll be testing the flow rates of several QD's soon with a flow meter (oled) to satisfy my curiosity lol.

 

If anyone is interested in a water cooled Radeon VII, let me know. I think I may be putting it up for sale.

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

 

Your setup looks really nice.

 

Nice. Just the gpu or the whole system? If it's the whole system feel free to DM me the full specs and I'll keep an eye out.

What's next in your radar for a system?

 

I hear the Radeon VII is well regarded as a "professional" card, something to do with it's compute abilities and large volume of VRAM, hopefully a person of that description will want to buy it from you because it's not well regarded as a gaming card in terms of performance value. Nice looking system there!

 

I dont know it that is accurate. I paid $700 for the card, and it is comparable to a 2080 in benchmarks. I also have higher firestrike scores than I did with my 1080Ti. It absolutely smokes the EVGA RTX 2070 that I sold to move to the Radeon VII. So, I think it price performance is right where it should be. Thanks for the compliments though

 

Just the card, but I am thinking once I get a second job, win the lottery, get a second mortgage on my home, rob a bank......etc, I would like to get a Ryzen 3950X, and maybe a 2080 super hydro copper. Sadly I haven't a sponsor, or a fat wallet, so I will continue to trudge along

 

Ah, interesting, maybe they've dropped in price or something. I just remember from reading the launch reviews and noting disappointing price & performance, and on tech review sites it often comes in as most disappointing of 2019, ha! I imagine it's still better suited to some kind of professional use, a lot of sites/reviews seem to make a big deal of that.

 

7980XE

Fire Strike PR: 35745

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/21572502

Time Spy PR: 17707

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/10235467

 

https://www.3dmark.com/sd/5786243 | https://hwbot.org/submission/4331813_



@Rage Set @Johnksss @Prema

 

Wow bro, you destroyed second place by over 1000 points. I knew it was just a matter of time when you were going to squeeze out the maximum performance from that chip. Congrats bro, keep it going!

 

Wooot! Congrats @Mr. Fox

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

 

Thanks, bro. It's still tough keeping it cold enough. I'm going to dismantle the system next weekend and flush everything out, replace all of the tubing, thoroughly wash all the dust from the radiator fins. Has been 2+ years of the same water, etc. Ordered an Optimus Signature V2 Pro-XE Nickle water block that should be here Tuesday. Hoping to go back together bare die and maybe be able to run it hard at 5.3GHz.

Thank you, sir.

 

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/10238667 | https://hwbot.org/submission/433184...me_spy_extreme_geforce_rtx_2080_ti_8725_marks

 

I tried to beat @Mr.Fox

 

Nice scores. What laptop is that?

 

The walmart laptop (less than 1000$ ... no- brainer)

Spoiler

 

Yeah, like BGA or not, the price makes Tongfang the best and only decent value in a gamer-boy turdbook.

 

True that bro ... sometimes you need to ignore some of this drawbacks if the value is there, to be honest ... I am truly impressed, temperatures are out of this world, GPU is limited by Power limit, that cannot be modified at all so is staying around 60-65C with max blow fans, the CPU is pushing around 85-87 in full load, funny thing, out of the box the Vcore is setup -50mV (it has options in bios for that, first time I see this on a laptop) for the 999$ (+tax) is insane ... basically 2-300$ cheaper than other configs with RTX2060 but with lower specs.

The most stupid thing is the warranty sticker on one of the screws but 16 GB RAM / 1 TB nvme ssd is more than enough for now.

 

Yes that is very good... it totally puts all the other brands to shame. People that pay more for the same or less based on brand are nuts.

 

Great score! I haven't benched Time Spy Extreme yet...still a bit in the tuning process. It'll be interesting how it compares.

That is indeed the best value laptop. There were some crazy good deals during BF and I've recommended the Wally OP Laptop to a ton of folks... For the price, it leaves virtually no room to complain, which is a good problem to have.

Great buy @rodarkone.