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Fantastic. I am extremely pleased with it.

Anything you would like to run, Brother @Blacky.

If you look on this page, the benchmarks that are supported are listed. https://hwbot.org/benchmarks

The 3DMark benchmark titles are probably the best (and easiest) place to start.

 

Sorry for all the from the old

https://hwbot.org/submission/4359387_papusan_3dmark11___entry_hd_graphics_4000_2123_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/435939...ven___basic_hd_graphics_4000_491.58_dx9_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/435938...n___xtreme_hd_graphics_4000_203.44_dx11_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4359385_papusan_3dmark___cloud_gate_hd_graphics_4000_7937_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4359383_papusan_3dmark06_hd_graphics_4000_9396_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4359382_papusan_3dmark05_hd_graphics_4000_16188_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4359369_papusan_3dmark2001_se_hd_graphics_4000_(mobile)_19823_marks

 

Alright, will try some 3dMark classics.

 

I have both the Foundation and Signature V2's on the test benches.

What's interesting is that the spread / inlet spout on the foundation block is much wider.

Also, it's important to have a strong pump as the blocks are pretty restrictive due to the micro fins and overall design, but they out perform the rest.

Optimus blocks are the Nemesis Radiators of the cpu block world... Restrictive, but simply the best performing.

Fantastic blocks btw...

Welcome @Blacky.

 

As long as you do the screenshots according to the rules and post that with the link to the 3DMark result you'll be golden. A recent rule change is that all screenshots are required to be full screen. (Not sure all of the rule links have been updated with the full screen requirement, so just FYI.)

It is always easy to find the rules... in two places.

On the "Benchmarks" tab...


Or, the hyperlink at the bottom of any screen where you are submitting a benchmark...
Once you have entered a benchmark with all of the hardware details filled in with a photo of the system attached (also important) using the "prepopulate" option makes it quick and easy.

 

I have two problems so far.
1. HWBOT says I have Engineering samples in my PC.
2. I have a triple monitor setup, and print screen ... is err... huge.

 

You can use snipping tool to capture parts or your screen for the HWBOT IDK

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Points from E.S. hardware hwbot forum

 

As @TheDantee suggested, you can use the snipping tool to drag out a rectangle capturing the "full screen" view of only the monitor showing the benchmark and CPU-Z/GPU-Z windows and that should be fine. I also have to do that with my MECH-15 because it has the laptop display and two monitors attached.

When you say HWBOT is saying you have engineering samples, where is that information originating from? Second question is, are they actually engineering samples, or is that a mistake?

See the link posted by @Papusan on this. If they are engineering samples of current generation hardware, you have to switch to a different league (Elite). You can be a member of the Elite league and still be on the PremaMod team, so no issue there. You cannot submit pre-released hardware benchmark scores from a lower league. It will not let any of us do that.

If you are not using ES hardware, then we need to understand what benchmark is misreporting the information. If you are using 3DMark and manually posting a validation link and screenshot, there is no way for HWBOT to identify the ES hardware unless you are manually inputting hardware specs while filling out the form that includes hardware that is not publicly available.

If you are not running pre-release/current generation ES hardware, what benchmark title(s) are you attempting to submit that are being flagged as ES hardware?

 

Got some more points. Disabled HT for higher clocks on iGPU.

https://hwbot.org/submission/4360175_papusan_3dmark11___entry_hd_graphics_4000_2226_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4360180_papusan_3dmark05_hd_graphics_4000_16956_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4360178_papusan_3dmark03_hd_graphics_4000_22119_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4360182_papusan_3dmark06_hd_graphics_4000_9712_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4360171_papusan_3dmark2001_se_hd_graphics_4000_42386_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4360211_papusan_3dmark___fire_strike_hd_graphics_4000_809_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4360209_papusan_3dmark___sky_diver_hd_graphics_4000_2909_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4360174_papusan_3dmark___ice_storm_hd_graphics_4000_83160_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/4360204_papusan_3dmark___cloud_gate_hd_graphics_4000_7999_marks


@Johnksss Maybe you remember max safe Volt for 3770K in bench sessions? Haven't the best cooling (singel 120m radiator). From now it willl run 4.7GHz for my son. The chips has most likely run very hot the last years. And no maintenance done the 8 years. Hope it can still will have a couple of years more. 10 years usage is a long time. Maybe he will swap for a new machine before that time window, but with the upgrade to 1070 and ram it will works ok for him for now.

 

@Papusan

Not sure, I'll try to get a look at that chip as it's still up and running at a client location. Just have to remember which one.


June 12, 2012
1.888V

 

Ahhh so much to read, I'm back.

Got a new job and have been really busy.

Nice to see @Johnksss back here

Happy Belated Birthday @Mr. Fox

And good to see the rest here as well.

 

Thanks. I don't think I have the cooling for that type voltage


End of iGPU bench for now. Very time consuming as everything run so slow.
https://hwbot.org/submission/4360946_papusan_3dmark11___performance_hd_graphics_4000_1036_marks


https://hwbot.org/submission/436095...age___performance_hd_graphics_4000_5856_marks

The end!​

https://hwbot.org/submission/4361081_papusan_gpupi_for_cpu___100m_core_i7_3770k_23sec_757ms



https://hwbot.org/submission/4361096_papusan_gpupi_v3.3_for_cpu___100m_core_i7_3770k_21sec_152ms

 

@Papusan
Tis is true, but for longevity.... That chip is still in service after being ran at voltage that high and hasn't skipped a beat. (About 8 years)

Ivy Bridge was pretty hot so most people complained as they could no longer keep up like they did with Sandy Bridge. And voltage wasn't so much the problem as temperature was.

 

GPUI v3.3 bench is finky. In both ways. If I run it without Benchmate (as standalone) it will run the whole bench nicely, but once I click save it then it will disappears into the open air. Only on this old setup. Hence the need for Benchmate. And the Batch and Reduction size won't fit all setups equal.

A 4th place run in GPUI 32gb crashed in last second when finishing. I will take that one up later

https://hwbot.org/submission/4362830_papusan_gpupi_v3.3___1b_geforce_gtx_1070_14sec_860ms



Edit. The promised 4th place in GPUI v3.3 32GB
https://hwbot.org/submission/4362860_papusan_gpupi_v3.3___32b_geforce_gtx_1070_15min_53sec_738ms


https://hwbot.org/submission/4362905_papusan_hwbot_x265_benchmark___1080p_core_i7_3770k_22.823_fps


https://hwbot.org/submission/4362968_papusan_hwbot_x265_benchmark___4k_core_i7_3770k_5.378_fps


https://hwbot.org/submission/4362897_papusan_gpupi_for_cpu___100m_core_i7_3770k_23sec_693ms

https://hwbot.org/submission/4362899_papusan_gpupi___1b_geforce_gtx_1070_19sec_30ms


https://hwbot.org/submission/4362966_papusan_cinebench___r15_core_i7_3770k_917_cb


https://hwbot.org/submission/4362967_papusan_aquamark_geforce_gtx_1070_370895_marks

 

@TheDantee

I am not sure how you got those Win 10 Lite Plus iso's to install on your AMD build, but it's a no go for me. Strangely, they work with my Intel rigs.

The steps I've taken thus far. Disabled Secure Boot. Tried installing the 1909.654 Lite Plus with NTFS and FAT32 bootable drives. They all error out during the first few minutes of installation. I don't use RAID on this rig. I tried the installation on both NVMe and SATA drives and I've gone through three different flash drives. I'll keep investigating and I'll keep you all updated.

Edit: I've downloaded the ISO twice to make sure it wasn't a corrupted/unfinished download.

 

Running in Raid 0 on my NVMe Drives Currently I did have the issue of the ISO Loading on this Threadripper build tho just kept launching the usb over and over kept blue screening finally went its running in UEFI with CSM Enabled. Make sure there is no current windows install in the system at the same time that will also give an error during the install process. Make sure the drives are all clean with 0 partitions that are installed in the system also and it should go.

 

Damn near 3800 Mhz in a laptop!
https://valid.x86.fr/bx8tbu

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4365137_papusan_gpupi_v3.3_for_cpu___100m_core_i7_3770k_21sec_70ms


https://hwbot.org/submission/4365154_papusan_cinebench___2003_core_i7_3770k_4346_points


https://hwbot.org/submission/4365178_papusan_cinebench___r11.5_core_i7_3770k_10.11_points


https://hwbot.org/submission/4365180_papusan_cinebench___r15_core_i7_3770k_922_cb


https://hwbot.org/submission/4365095_papusan_gpupi_for_cpu___100m_core_i7_3770k_23sec_479ms


https://hwbot.org/submission/4365102_papusan_gpupi_for_cpu___1b_core_i7_3770k_5min_50sec_333ms

 

While I know this is a thermal epoxy, perhaps we can start making our own thermal paste for air/water cooling applications. Very good and informative video you guys should watch.

 

very good ... Is this any use?

 

Hmm. Looks like HWBOT removed Port Royal at some point. I haven't benched it in a very long time. I went to submit this one and it's nowhere to be found. Wonder when it was removed, and why? (I've never really cared for it anyhow, but still curious why they removed it.)

https://hwbot.org/submission/4366776_ | https://www.3dmark.com/spy/10810047
https://hwbot.org/submission/4366794_ | https://www.3dmark.com/spy/10810465

 

Cpu clocked @ 5GHz and GPU @ stock


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256GB of RAM @ 3200Mhz on TRX40. I currently have it on the XMP profile and I have to test it before trying to push it further. This is going to be a journey.

 

Wow, that is a whole lot of RAM Brother @Rage Set.

How do the AIDA64 read, write and copy speeds and latency numbers on TRX40 compare with what you would see with X299 using the same sticks with the same XMP profile? Same, better or worse?

 

Wanted to max out the RAM on this machine and I was waiting for 3600 to come back in stock. However, I think that speed for G.Skill is either discontinued or sold out everywhere. I'm currently running a Mem86 test and so far, no errors after 3 hours. I will have the AIDA64 test for you shortly but I will have to pull out my other X299 board to test all of the RAM. I am highly interested to see the AIDA64 test between platforms too.

 

Stock settings with XMP - TR 3960X - 256GB RAM @ 3200Mhz

 

Hi
please is there any program to show the voltage SA agent u kabylake ???
or some bios settings, enable sensor
but I found nothing

This is a GT75 7RE, .cm238 x 7820hk

I need quite a lot but I don't know the starting point
+0.125 works fine for all tests so far, but I don't know how much is there
15A is limit ,,xtu ,hwinfo

they don't see these values "voltage SA "


thanks for the advice

 

Does ThrottleStop show anything? If no third party apps show what your System Agent voltage is, then it may be an issue that the laptop BIOS/firmware is blocking read access to sensors.

 

Those numbers do not look very good. In particular, the latency seems very high. It should be interesting to see if they improve with the X299 or stay the same. Not sure if it is the RAM itself or something with the motherboard/chipset, or the extremely high memory capacity.

 

What I mean by that is something like, if you have a pump moving 20 gallons per minute, it is going to take a lot longer to fill a 55-gallon drum than it will a 5-gallon bucket, but the pump is still moving 20 gallons per minute in both scenarios.

 

Unfortunately nothing

I do not know why in bios did not leave something like pchealth,
I'll try to ask for a mod from msi ,, but I think they won't give it to me

SA only affects ram OC ? default 0.95v or 1.05v for some system
Ringbus not need sa voltage ,,vcore helps better ?

15A will probably be few, but I do not know

sometimes I notice
RING: Max VR Voltage, ICCmax, PL4 - EC Limit for me .,Right?

I have a problem with the cache L0 error, but only when I include the gpu load in the tests
without gpu is all ok ,, avx, avx2 all mem tets

but laptop is gaming without gpu is useless

....thank you for your advice ,,,,,,from the side of msi I get nothing ,,gaming laptop never again

 

Very nice @Rage Set...that's more RAM than some have storage space lol.

As @Mr. Fox pointed out... where AMD suffers are from the latencies, which can be seen here. I about jumped out of my chair the first time I ran a quick test with the 128GB RAM on my Asus TRX40 w/ the 3970x... the monster read/write and copy speeds should make up some to compensate for the high latency, but it's far from 1:1 ... either way having more cores to tackle tasks will yield faster results than the intel equivalent.

 

3733Mhz - Working on timings - 3960X. At first I thought I got a dud with this kit but it is slowly waking up.

EDIT: This is Hynix C-Die, which is very good for overclocking on Ryzen (overclocking in general).

 

Great stuff... it's refreshing to see RAM tuning. 3600-3733 is the sweet spot. With all 8 slots populated on my board it posting with some crazy tight timings. When I get to it after the current projects on deck, I'll surely share the findings...looking forward to what you settle on, board/ram willing.

Those read/write and copy speeds though LOL... insane.

 

I'm aiming for tight timings for 3600. I spent the past two hours (in between workout sets - arms) working on 3733.

EDIT: These 32GB modules aren't as forgiven as the 4800 8GB sticks I have.

 

Fire Strike - 9900KF - RTX 2060

Something a little different from the norm than with the usual 2080Ti's etc...


https://www.3dmark.com/fs/21985497

 

Managed to beat my 9900K P0 (7s30ms) in SuperPI 1M with the KF, albeit with different ram timings.


Edit: wPrime 32M has the best example of the R0 mitigations on the score.

5.2 R0 3333 CL13 - 2s 352ms
https://hwbot.org/submission/4371096_
5.2 P0 3333 CL14 - 2s 192ms
https://hwbot.org/submission/4310710_

Both ran on a stripped down LTSC OS with usual tweaks.

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4371272_papusan_gpupi_v3.3___32b_geforce_gtx_1070_15min_50sec_462ms

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4371277_

https://hwbot.org/submission/4371282_

https://hwbot.org/submission/4371299_

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4371291_

https://hwbot.org/submission/4371289_

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4371301_

 

Man that's cool!

How much of a performance difference is there in wPrime with vs w/o benchmate? From what I recall it needs HPET to be enabled.

 

Yeah, Benchmate really sucks the life out of wPrime. I cannot give you a good comparison because I can no longer get Benchmate to run under Windows 7. It used to work, but it just won't run any more. None of the programs will launch. Even after doing a clean install and downloading a new Benchmate archive. I no longer have the older version that worked for Windows 7, but they changed something that basically ruined it. I suppose I could compare under Windows 10 to show the difference, but Windows 10 absolutely sucks on wPrime and runs massively slower than Windows 7. (My wPrime 32M score goes from about 1.25 on W7 to about 1.65 on Windows 10, so it's a massive hit.)

Overall, I think Benchmate is a pile of crap. I'm only using it because I can get an extra set of HWBOT points running exactly the same benchmarks (even with lower results) with Benchmate bloatware. That being said, I can run and submit wPrime with Benchmate with comparatively horrible results on Windows 10 and still get HWBOT points for it. I just haven't done it yet. Without it, I can't and won't get any points because I cannot even get remotely close to the same scores on Windows 10.

 

Why is my score so rubbish?



Similar spec systems are nearly double.


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You remember what Benchmate version that worked for you with Win 7 ?

I need Benchmate to be able to post scores from GPUI v3.3.3 for the old desktop with 7970/1070. I did the bench above and the scores was posted correctly on the bot. But if I tried to save the score the old fashion way afterwards, the GPUI v3.3.3 score and software disappeared into loose air exactly as the standalone version. Only Benchmate was still running on the desktop after I tried save the score. Yeah, I don't like the direction we now see.

Neary double... Where did you see that?
https://hwbot.org/benchmark/3dmark_...Id=videocard_3140&cores=1#start=0#interval=50

 

I cannot remember, but I know it was prior to BenchMate 0.9.3 because that is the oldest version I have and it does not work on Windows 7. I cannot find any older versions for download. With v0.9.3 the BenchMate UI will launch, but none of the apps will launch. With BenchMate 0.10.5 even the UI refuses to launch. It makes Windows 7 become unresponsive if I try to launch it.

Yeah, I hear you. It's getting to the point I am almost ready to just be done with computers. So many aspects totally sucks at the hardware and software level for overclocking enthusiasts that it's not even fun any more, and HWBOT certainly seems to be in a state of decline. Kind of makes sense that HWBOT would follow the trend of decline due to lack of participation. Any hardware that is new that is worth buying is ridiculously beyond insane overpriced. The new tech that isn't overpriced is just mediocre consumer trash that no enthusiast would waste their money on. If you don't count the privileged elite that get everything for free or with special specs/firmware from sponsors that nobody else has access to, most of the people making strong progress now on the leaderboards now (including you) are using excellent quality older hardware that isn't clock-blocked or riddled with cancer.

 

How are your temps? As for seeing scores that are double, could you provide a link to 3DMark?

Note: As a friendly tip, screen shots are preferred. In some scenarios a pic taken from a phone is forgivable only if it's very legible, but just a heads up that a lot of people despise phone pics and they can get really nasty about it. Also, providing links to your 3DMark will be great.

 

His 3Dm FS link... And you won't find links with the double scores with same setup
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/22000373

I wonder why they can't have download links up for older versions. ansvered my own question.

Edit. Most likely due Primate Labs. And I can understand why the bot won't put up Geekbench 5 as beta anymore.

 

Physics at 5Ghz should be around 27k. Running hwinfo64 and checking what perf cap flags got triggered will tell you what's going on.