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That's awesome, bro. Excellent work!!!

They are not the only domain having technical difficulties right now.

Hopefully, HWBOT recalcs will get sorted out soon. Every time I log in my ranking and points are different than the time before. Sometimes logging in does not work and I have to refresh the web page several times.

Now it shows I am #1, which is not accurate. The ranking is all over the board right now and it's not accurate for anyone.

 

@Lunatics - I just attempted to log-in at Overclock.net and I also cannot access anything. It is not accepting my user ID and password. Probably not your account being banned. Maybe too many failed sign-in attempts temporarily locked your account or something.

 

Rackin them points up!

 

I logged right in?? I hate the new forum already!

Edit: Now its better. The default view is mobile, and not desktop, so you have to change it.

 

It seems like every time a forum upgrades to something new it is sucky compared to what it was before. I've never gotten to the point that I actually like Xenforo. I wish we had never changed here, too. Everything was so much nicer (aesthetically and functionally) with vBulletin.

I see a ton of changes with web pages I use for work, both internal and external domains, and they all suck. They are all uglier than before, have that tacky crappy Windows 10 look and feel, with tons of inefficiencies relating to the misuse of browser space that fits less information on a screen and requires more scrolling and clicking than ever before.

It seems like a pattern that the decision-making people at the top of the food chain in the technology realm as a whole are brain-dead imbeciles that are incapable of making any good decisions. At least is seems that way to me based on how so many things on the web look and feel. Perhaps the explosive growth of craptastic mobile tech garbage that can't fit much onto a cramped screen is ruining things for the rest of us.

 

Same here...I had to click on "forgot password", then go that route to get back in. But I was able to get logged in though.

 

I had to reset my password. It no longer accepts email address for log-in.

OMG... I absolutely hate their new forum UI. It sucks like all of the crap I was complaining about before in the earlier post. Bloated and inefficient use of screen space... Windows 10 / YouTube crap look and feel... cartoon feces... they joined the garbage club, LOL. Each cell of text should consume about half the space it is wasting and twice as much information should fit in the same browser space.

 

Welcome to the path of making your computer as useless as your phone!

 

WORD! That is an accurate way of looking at the situation, too. Ugly and useless.

 

Thanks for the information. I don't think it was failed sign in attempts unless it was someone else trying to access my account because I logged in with my saved credentials in chrome with no issue that morning and made a post in the Primochill Vue owners thread, then got to work, signed in with my saved credentials on chrome on my work computer and then got that message. @KY_BULLET tried to reach out to them through the "contact us" link on their website on my behalf so we're waiting to see if we get any response and if not in a couple days I'll ask him to quote my last post and make a comment about how I've been trying to get back on there and reply to the people who answered me but it is saying I am banned and don't know why and maybe get some attention to it. It's weird because when he checked my profiles activity yesterday it seemed to think I was active throughout the day, unless it was just recording my "banned logins" as activity on the site. It also does not say I am banned under my username like most forums typically do if the user was banned, just tells me I'm a macbook enthusiast or something (ew). Gonna give it another couple days and see what happens and go from there. Just sucks as I was trying to get a little advice and ask a question about tubing so I can go ahead and finally order everything final that I need and get building but it will have to wait a little. Even the 2 new accounts I tried to create are not receiving confirmation emails so I'm hoping it's just bugs with their new site causing issues.

That being said, I don't know if anyone here has experience with custom loop watercooling, but if so does anyone have any advice on tubing size? Does it really make a difference, or brand? I know I read some places on Overclock that certain tubing would get stained using colored coolants or liquids in it, and maybe this was just an older issue that is not relevant anymore but trying to figure out the right size tubing and the right brand to get to avoid any potential problems.

And yes, when I got into the site finally not signed into anything, I am really not a big fan either of the new UI. I also noticed when I intially posted the other morning, I tried to go back and edit my post right after because it quoted a wrong post by accident and broke the quote in my post and looked like garbage but I had no option to edit. Wonder if I was like instabanned when I tried making a post and it prevented me from editing, or if it's another bug with the new software preventing people from editing their posts.

 

Lots of very negative feedback, similar to what we saw here with the switch to Xenforo. Most of the forum software available now is pretty atrocious and unaesthetic. I am glad to know that there are many others that hate the bloated UI garbage as much as I do. It's truly disgusting. If I did not have so many friends here I would have ended my membership here because of it, and some are talking that way at overclock.net now because they hate it so much. The forum software they were using was no longer supported, so they had to make a change. The trend in web design is such now that most, maybe even all, of the options are probably equally disgusting aesthetically. I'm guessing it is driven by the tacky "Modern" Windoze UI vomited onto us all by Micro$loth... monkey see, monkey do.

A clean, condensed, lightweight, mostly text and customizable interface with no annoying distractions is greatly preferred over the busy, bloated, multi-colored pastel puke interface. The pop-out side menus and dynamic interface elements are extremely annoying. Overclock.net, even more so than NBR, should be very aware that their user base is not dominated by smartphone and tablet users.

http://www.overclock.net/forum/3-ov...latform-feedback-thread-114.html#post26583233

 

Looks like users getting banned during sign in is a known issue as well... http://www.overclock.net/forum/3-ov...latform-feedback-thread-135.html#post26590217

 

@Lunatics Will be happy to hear this. Hopefully they will get his email and reinstate him.

 

Just installed the Artic Acellero Extreme III on my GPU and dropped temps by 17c.

Ran Fire Strike stress test at 1974mhz/5640mhz (Usually what I game at) and it maxed out at 63c with 98.7% score. Was getting right at 80c.

Not bad for air and it's definitely better than the stock "Inadequate" cooler.

 

Re-did my fan curves for silent running with LM this at 4.0 GHz and after running Pime95 for 20 minutes. House is set to 68F.



Edit; Let it cool off another 5 minutes and;

 

Interesting. Never heard of that before, but Googled it and it looks good. Got any pics? Looks like it worked well for you.

Wow, great temps. Liquid metal FTW. Did you delid your TR, or just have it on top of the IHS?

 

You shouldn't delidde Ryzen. Come with solder. Amd did not go the cheapo route as Intel.

 

Do you remember ram prices in the early 90s? Enough said!

 

no delid......

 

Here are the results of the stress test. I though it would show the thermal graph too unless I overlooked the tab for it. It was boosting to 1974mhz but only shows it was clocked at 1924mhz on the results tab. Ambient temps were 66f in my house at the time.

http://www.3dmark.com/fsst/694254

I will get some pics of inside my case tonight when I get home. Yeah I was surprised it did this well.

EDIT...Just noticed that I had my CPU at 4.9ghz when I ran that stress test too. That was an accident. I meant to run it at stock which is where I run when gaming. I don't think it would've made a difference on my GPU load or temps though but who knows, maybe a degree or 2?

And I can't get my CPU to go any higher than 4.9ghz due to the new updates and patches. It's hit or miss. One day I can, and the next I can't...Weird

 

Thanks for the updates @Mr. Fox and @KY_BULLET I guess I will just have to wait a little longer and see what happens. At least it's acknowledged as a bug and I know I wasn't just banned for no reason.

 

It seems about right from him. I don't know how you're implementing your air conditioning, are you gonna just tube it into the case? If you do that, then I suppose you could get some condensation on the outside of the case where it meets the warmer room temperature air, but I don't think you'll get condensation inside the case while you're running it. Although having said that if you've got case fans that are gonna be pumping in room temperature air into the case as well as the air conditioned air being introduced into the case then you could get some water droplets forming when the warm air mixes with the air conditioned air. Might be better to rely on air conditioned air as your only air intake assuming it's enough throughput and cut back on the amount of case exhaust you have so you can assure positive pressure in the case - that way you don't get any warm air entering the case & mixing with the air conditioned air, which would reduce water droplets in the case. Possible you could get condensation on the outside of the PC case I think. (I'm not speaking from experience of doing this, just using my scientific understanding of condensation).

EDIT: does your air conditioner pump out water droplets along with the air conditioned air, or does it take the moisture out. If it pumps out water droplets then you'll definitely end up with water in there!

 

I seriously doubt you will have any problems with that. If you do not see condensation on the windows of your home running air conditioning in the summer, (when it is hot outside and cool inside,) there should no reason to believe you will be having an issue with that on your PC since it is already in a climate controlled environment and the temperature difference is smaller. If you are worried about it and you live in a abnormally humid environment, check once in a while to see if you can see any evidence of it just for extra peace of mind. I would not say impossible, but definitely improbable. I know I would not lose any sleep worrying about it.

 

Yup, bone dry is exactly what I would expect you to find. It never hurts to check once in a while just to confirm what you already know, but I think you have no reason for worry. If you were getting the components in the case down to 32°F/0°C that would warrant a lot more caution. But, there is no way you can get it that cold with air conditioning blowing cool air into it. And, if your portable AC unit is like most, they include a dehumidifier as well.

 

Here are a couple pics of the Artic Acellero Extreme III. Definitely took up my second PCI slot but I still have the 3rd one.

 

Wow, man that is crazy awesome. You'll have to tell me if there were special settings you used to get a 14C/28T CPU cranked to 5.0GHz stable. Or, was it only the AC cooling? I bet you're super happy right now.

Brother @Johnksss would be proud of you, too. That's a solid accomplishment.

On another note... no more Windows 10 on my desktop at this time.

That looks really nice, bro. Quite the massive air cooler. Is it so big you could not run SLI? Looks like it is so huge you would not be able to have room for another GPU.

 

Hwbot submission Cinebench 15 record for me

 

Here is my temps after about 45 min to an hour of PUBG. It was still running in the background so I didn't get any temp drops while trying to snip this picture.

This is at max fan speed though. I can just barely hear them so figured why not just run them high while gaming.
I could probably use the MSI AB default curve now. Never was able to use the factory curve before this upgrade, always on max just to keep them around 80c.

Look at my max power...301 watts! WOW!!!

 

Yeah If I do get up enough cash to go SLI, I will just sell the cooler and go with a Loop.

 

Thats amazing bro! Nice work! That is a 1900mhz overclock?

 

http://hwbot.org/submission/3769951_

 

http://hwbot.org/submission/3769968_

 

Cool (pun intended). AC is a great way to cool the CPU and cooler temps require less voltage, so that makes perfect sense.

Just tired of dealing with such a piece of trash. I will probably look for a really cheap 64GB or 128GB SATA SSD just large enough to install W10 and 3DMark for Fire Strike and Time Spy benching and use Windows 7 for everything else. I hate Windows 10 and just keeps getting worse. Other than Fire Strike and Time Spy, there is really nothing good about it and Windows 7 does everything else better.

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/14790986 | http://hwbot.org/submission/3769991_

 

What are the score differences in firstrike, between win 7 and 10?

 

New CB 15 record

 

Generally less than 1,000 points overall, but enough to lose rank on the leaderboard. And, of course Time Spy is DX12 so it will not function on Windows 7. The reason it gets a slightly higher score in Windows 10 is that it was released during the Windows 8 era and is optimized for a newer OS. It only scores a little better on the graphics score calculation, and Fire Strike puts more weight on the graphics score, imposing less of a penalty for a weak CPU than the other Futuremark benchmarks do. This is why the turdbook lovers love Fire Strike. It mostly ignores their crappy Physics score. You seldom see them running 3DMark 11 or Vantage because those demand a strong CPU for a good physics score, and the physics score carries a great deal of weight. So, if they run those benchmarks it really calls attention to their wimpy CPU.

Nice run, bro.

 

Is this normal for 3dmark 06? These should be way above what is shown in XOC
Something is def. not right with this benchmark, and my setup. It doesnt like something. I can hardly match Radeon 7970 scores?? Max GPU temp 38c

 

Congrats on adding that aftermarket cooler, it's made a big difference! You're getting some good low temps there with a lot of GPU load, so that's impressive, even if you are having to run at 100% fans it doesn't matter if you can't really hear them - the only downside is that fans running at 100% won't last as long, but if they're good quality fans I would think it would still take years for them to fail.

 

3DMark06 is so old that even on my GTX 670MX I had in my laptop it could never get to 100% GPU usage for most of the benchmark - it's just platform limited (CPU/Memory speed) and your GPU is not doing anything, and because it's so overpowered & under-taxed it's dropping GPU clocks to save power because the GPU is not being asked to do hardly any work. I would say it's normal, and your 7970 wouldn't have been pushed to the max in 3DMark06 either, so not that surprising you're getting the same scores.

 

As @Robbo99999 said, it has to do with the age of the benchmark. How Windows handles things, how drivers handle things, older GPUs geared toward outdated versions of DirectX that were not old when released, etc. All of it comes into play. CPU performance was given more credit back then as well. Have you tried running it with K-boost enabled? Older games and benchmarks are sometimes not graphically taxing enough to force 3D boost clocks. Also, try turning off OSD in EVGA Precision X. RTSS OSD will actually cause 3DMark05 and 3DMark06 to error out and crash or freeze because it is not compatible with ancient versions of DirectX.

You will find the same scenario with Aquamark and 3DMark 2001.

 

Speaking of K-boost. I didnt think that would work with any other GPU's besides EVGA. I was tinkering around last night and clicked on it (I have the EVGA control panel for my closed loop cooler) and it works. I even checked in HWiNfo and it did boost my clocks. Only time it won't work is if I have afterburner running in the background.

Kinda scared me at first because my screen flickered and went black then came back on. I guess it was the driver pausing while K-boost initialized. For a second I thought ahhh crap, here we go I screwed it up now lol!

 

Put my Evga Gtx 1080 FTW DT, on ebay for $690.00, and it sold in 3 minutes!

 

Congratulations! That's excellent.

 

@KY_BULLET Can you run Super Position 1080p Extreme and let me know your GPU score/temps and OC settings, or just post a picture of results.

 

http://hwbot.org/submission/3770643_

 

CPU was at 49x (I don't think this matters in score)
GPU Clock Was 2063...Down clocked to 2050 about half way through the benchmark (Thanks Pascal)
Mem was 6003


HWiNFO Shows 2100 core clock at max but it didn't make it all the way through. Only about 5 seconds until the driver dropped out.

 

MSI has their own version of K-Boost and all either one does is peg the GPU to run at 100% constantly instead of clocking up and down as needed by the workload. Personally I wouldn’t use it outside of testing your overclocks and even then it’s not really needed since you’re likely going to see identical performance under load.

 

Reason why I was curious about it was that I seen a post over on EVGA forums a while back where someone asked if K-boost would work on other GPU models, and some of the guys answered no.

I use Afterburner when I do overclock but that's only on benchmarks. I run all stock while gaming or maybe just a slight overclock.

 

Wow, 62% higher score than my highest overclock GTX 1070! Superposition really does love those extra cores, because the difference in other benchmarks & games usually isn't that large I think. Although, even Superposition doesn't scale perfectly with the extra cores - we have identical clock speeds in that benchmark, but you have 87% more shader cores in your GPU (3584 vs my 1920), and it yields a 62% higher score instead; I suppose there are diminishing returns as you increase the number of cores. (I wonder if that phenomenon will result in slowed performance increase of future architectures on die shrinks - where die shrinks usually allow for more cores, maybe that's a challenge they have to address each time they increase the number of cores in a GPU)

 

I usually run with a moderate overclock (e.g. leaving my 1080Ti at 2050-2063 boost instead of 2100+ and taking the vRAM down to around 11500 instead of 12000+ since those take an increase in the voltage slider and power limit while I can hit the lower numbers on stock).