*Official* NBR Desktop Overclocker's Lounge [laptop owners welcome, too]

Yeah, that looks kind of icky. I think that using a electrically non-conductive clear coolant with corrosion inhibitors is the best approach.

 

Thermaltake C1000 Clear liquid.

http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00003070

This is what I will get if I go this route later.

Plus since it's biodegradable, I can't see it being corrosive.

 

Anyone else having the benchmark score being "Invalid" since this latest version? Mine is saying: "Invalid Score! Time measurement data unavailable". It pops up in a little red box above the score after running Firestrike - I think it corresponds with the latest update, can't remember it being there before. I've tried running it with no hardware monitoring apps in the background, and yet still the error. Doesn't really bother me, but seems strange! Anyone else having that issue?

 

Futuremark probably screwed up again. Try later again today

 

Ha, being updated later today??

 

Sort of a weird post for this thread but it seems to get the most traffic in the desktop section so here we go. An XoticPC giveaway on Jayz2Cents. Nice! I didn't realize XoticPC was really that big in the desktop segment, always thought of them as a laptop company.

 

Wow, looks gooooood!

 

Bit off topic but, O&O Shut up 10 has my vote as being one of the best downloads out there IMO!

14.75 seconds from cold start to my desktop screen, that's impressive!

 

Meshified my coolermaster h500p

 

Can you provide link(s)/details for that particular mesh? It looks ideal, almost invisible in the pic, so I imagine it's extremely fine, whereas most of what I can find on google searches/newegg looks a way thicker

 

Yeah it does. Looks very nice. I would like it even more in full tower size, but the aesthetics are excellent. @pat@XOTICPC @Tanner@XoticPC and @Justin@XoticPC have been holding out on us. Not only are they a @Prema partner shop, but they're selling awesome custom desktops. They should send me an X299 system to review, overclock and bench the crap out of it for publicity. Had I known that I might have shopped there and compared prices with iBUYPOWER. Jay makes a good point in his video about warranty and component prices. I prefer doing my own build, but if I can get parts at a better price that are scarce through retail channels and get a warranty on the whole system ready to use with no effort, what's not to love about that?

Agreed 100%... very useful program. It and WinAeroTweaker are a vital part of my Windows Setup regimen.

Looks good, bro. So you decided you did not like the new case so much?

 

I didnt make the filter itself, I did a lot of research trying to find a filter that is pre made to almost the exact measurements I needed. In this case it is a magnetic Demcifilter that has an adhesive magnet to match the frame of the filter. This one is meant for a 420mm radiator, but since I have a couple bends I needed to add a couple fan screws after predrilling the holes.

@Mr. Fox Ya, I didnt like how big it is. Probably going to sell it, but it does have some nice features.

 

Here is proof of stability of my 8700K. Passes with flying colors at 5.2GHz, ring at 4.7GHz and the DDR4-3200 overclocked to 3500. Nowhere close to stock specs, but well within the safe zone for temps and 100% stable pushing 196% of stock TDP limits.

 

Very nice! Intels core series silicon is great, and they have proved it, having so many generations of it. Lets hope AMD, and zen+ can produce some magic to put some pressure on them to get off their hands. I think they already have Intels attention right now, just need some better clocking stuff soon.

@cfe Here is the link to the exact filter I used, but they have many other sizes, and also make custom filters to your needs at no additional charge. In other words, you can send them your measurements, and they will only charge you for a similar sized filter.
https://www.demcifilter.com/420mm-x-153mm-O-D-Front-Bay-Computer-Dust-Filter

 

Oh man, I sure hope so as well. I'd like nothing better than to have Intel (and NVIDIA) losing sleep and fretting over AMD stealing their overclocking fanatics. I think they take "loyalty" for granted and need to understand that we will kick them to the curb like an old dirty diaper if AMD gives us something that overclocks as good or better and wins at almost all of the overclocked benchmarks.

 

Isnt it funny how things change? Back in the day you overclocked, because you felt if you could, then you got something for free. Like overclocking my T-bird from 800mhz to 850mhz, or trying to get to the magical 1ghz mark on the 900mhz Athlon. Now it is pretty much expected on cpu's these days.

 

Yes, absolutely. In fact, I would even go as far as to say required as the price of admission. Not good at overclocking (for me) means, "do not pass go; do not collect $200; go to jail" LOL.

 

I just cant get away from this SuperPosition lol! Best score to date.
2 120mm fans on EVGA AIO Cooler mounted to the NZXT G12

That's at 2100mhz core and 6055mhz Memory. 45c top out temp.

Just checked top 100 scores and im right at 101....Figures

 

My Ti wont go that high on the core. Wish it could, but oh well. I think 2060 is borderline max for it.

 

You're on air, correct? If you put it on water and keep the temps at ~50°C or less, you might.

You're possibly going to match or catch me. It's already so close that it's within a normal margin of error. If you kill off a few services and let the system sit turned off for an hour and run it on a cold boot, that might be all it takes.

Look how few points of spread there are between #88 and #101. Hardly any.

https://benchmark.unigine.com/results/rid_498af5867d27447db707b9172dda826d

 

Okay, Ive been himhawing about getting a block for it. Being a FTW 3, they are harder to find. I can get an AIO hybrid cooler from EVGA for 160 or buy the copper block to add in my loop for 180? Which would you go with?

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=400-HY-5698-B1
https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=400-HC-5699-B1

 

I think I would go for the hybrid to keep the CPU and GPU from sharing the same loop. If you add the GPU to the current loop, I think your GPU temps will definitely improve, but your CPU temps might go up. If the GPU runs just 5°C too warm and hits 55°C it won't hold 2100 on core because of the stupidity of the NVIDIA cancer vBIOS.

If you were going dual 240 or 360 rads, or even 360/240 radiators, then I would say go for the water block and add it to your loop.

 

I can buy a splitter so it will receive freshly cooled liquid coming from the radiator. Just seems like a big hassle when it comes time to remove the video card for any reason.

 

EDIT...Mr Fox beat me to it lol!

I 2nd what Mr Fox said.

 

And, that is yet another good reason to go with the hybrid. No need to mess with the cooling system. Just take the screws out of the radiator and remove it as a closed loop assembly. No fuss, no muss.

Edit: I think the hybrid setup will also increase the resale value of your GPU when it comes time for an upgrade.

 

Ya, I would have to buy some quick connects for the card too. Those are expensive. I just spent $70 for two of them so I could remove my reservoir easily. I wish it was 140mm so I could use my Riing fan with it.

 

You can if you have the chassis between the radiator and 140mm fan. Use the hybrid fan on the other side and do it as push/pull. I have 3 fans forcing air through my 120mm GPU radiator. I have a 140mm Riing fan on the front of the case, directly over the GPU cooler, with a 120mm fan on both sides of the radiator. You could do the same with the 140mm and one 120mm. I only added the fan in the middle as a spacer because my case is so big the hoses were not long enough for it to reach the front panel, LOL.

 

Congrats on adapting your GPU to water cooling! An extra percentage or two of performance yes? It's good to see those low temperatures.

 

http://hwbot.org/submission/3783880_

 

Yep just a little better on scores but helps in longevity of my GPU too. I can game for hours at +60 on the core and +150 on memory and never see 50c. Been playing PUBG for a few hours, as of now the highest temps is 43c. That's nice!

 

Taking advantage of a cold day here.
http://hwbot.org/submission/3783927_

 

Take a look... Cougar Conquer Case Review-Tomshardware.com

 

Ha, that's not a case, that's a sports shoe slash transformer slash test bench! I remember seeing this one on Guru3d a few months back where they just had a tiny article about an upcoming case - I joked that it was ugly and that Mr Fox would like this due to it's open testbed nature, but he didn't like it - I think it combines the worst of 2 worlds: it's open so lets in dust (plus a bit ugly) and it's not that practical in terms of open test bench! Pass!

 

It does remind me of a Transformer. Like a big mech that cross-bred with an Alienware Dorito-shaped desktop.

 

I love the new inWin D Frame beast built by JayzTwoCents. It is severely overpriced, but seriously awesome. I think it is the most tasteful application of the industrial aesthetic I have ever seen in a desktop chassis.

 

I seen Jay do his build but, I dont remember if he said how much it was. That price is crazy high!

Look on the bright side, if someone did buy this case and decide to buy a new case a few years later, they could always use the old case to build the mini-bike their son always wanted lol!

EDIT....Yeah I forgot to mention that this is one badass looking case! If money were no object, I'd be all over it.

 

This case would be decent if the openings were mechanical that would open on the press of a button and likewise, close on the press of a button. Would be great to easily have it open up to run benchmarks but close when doing normal computing or gaming. Being open all the time would suck on account of collecting dust. One would have to clean it once a week to somewhat keep it under control.

 

WOW! Those scores are unbelievable!

 

You know what gets me with all these you tube channel wannabes? Ive seen almost everyone of them grab graphics cards by the copper slot. That is the most idiotic way to handle an expansion card of any sort, let alone a high dollar video card. If you are going to fry a card, thats the easiest way to do it. I even watched Linus grab the Intel optane the same way. Every time I see a video of someone handling a card in this manner, I immediately think IDIOT!

 

Still a damn better chassis than what you get out there


And Nice we have better or other options for those who can handle dust and as well want colder hardware

 

Oh yeah no doubt and im living proof of "Bad Cases". The View 31 is worlds above better than what I had with the MSI Codex HotBox.

 

Although it is possible in an environment with static electricity, I have never had any kind of mishap. But, I am also not careless and pay attention to what I am doing. I bet they would be more careful if they were paying for those parts. When they get everything for temporary testing/review purposes and they have no skin in the game, maybe they are just more careless because it's not their money.

 

Ok, just for giggles, I ordered one of these over the weekend. Gonna see if temps are the same, better or worse with the 1080 Ti mounted vertically in the bracket that came with the View 71 case. Time permitting, will find out late this evening what the verdict is.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NH0GW7Z

 

Your GPU is liquid cooled so vertical mounting shouldn't really hurt temperatures, at least not like vertical mounting generally hurts cooling performance of air cooled GPUs (Gamers Nexus often prove in reviews that vertical mounting of air cooled GPUs is a bad idea). Vertical mounting might even help your temperatures if it allows passive heat collecting around the card to escape more efficiently.

 

I'm not too keen on this mounting, and I think it's a fad. What purpose does it have, other than to show off the fan side of your gpu? I think it makes it more difficult to access the other pci slots as well, is it not? @Mr. Fox I'm sure we will have a full review as to what you think of it I had a LianLi case back in the day that mounted the motherboard upside down so the fan side of the video card was on top. Didn't care for that too much.

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We shall see. I don't use any of the other PCI-e slots, and when I can afford to buy another 1080 Ti SC2 for SLI it won't work. Just satisfying my curiosity. And, yes, I do think it is a fad for the most part.

On another note, been playing around with the new cancer BIOS with the Intel fixes leaving mostly defaults (other than memory and a few extreme presets needed for 5.2GHz) and using only @unclewebb's amazing ThrottleStop for CPU overclocking. So far, fairly decent on memory and 3DMark 11 Physics test. In just a bit and I will post a couple of screen shots.

 

I think I will go back to the insecure BIOS (again). I'm not liking the wPrime and Cinebench hits, but the memory and 3DMark 11 Physics were not hurt.

 

How much was wPrime and Cinebench hit by the new so called <secure> bios?

 

Changed from about 2.9 seconds on average in wPrime 32m to 3.1 and about 20 points loss on Cinebench R15, and about 0.5 - 0.7 seconds loss on Cinebench R11.5. So, not much change, but enough to lose on the leaderboard. That doesn't fly.

This is back on the old "insecure" BIOS.

 

wPrime is quite a big change then, but not so much with the other ones you listed. I'm still waiting for MSI to release an updated BIOS that fixes the Spectre issue (Z170A), but I think it's gonna be a while, my motherboard supports Kaby Lake too, and Intel haven't released a fix yet for Kaby Lake to OEM's (just released the Skylake one so far), so MSI unlikely to release a half baked BIOS with only Skylake updates while leaving Kaby Lake in the dark. How come you've got an updated BIOS for the Spectre fix, I thought it was only Skylake that Intel have fixed properly so far, the others were withdrawn?