*Official* NBR Desktop Overclocker's Lounge [laptop owners welcome, too]

It seems that turd polishing is an expected exercise in futility in today's technology world. It is prevalent in the mobile space, but the brain cancer is slowly spreading to the desktop.

 

Don't know why my CPU score sucks in this benchmark

 

Hey @Mr. Fox I sold my card today.

 

With your cooling setup, you should be getting a higher CPU score.

 

I don't have it set up correctly in the bios.

 

I've been trading blows with Time Spy Extreme for the past month or so. What I've learned is that TSE appears to like tighter timings and Mhz on the RAM. I would try 4000mhz with tighter timings. How many cores do you have at 5.1? I managed to get all 18 cores at 5.0 with the first four cores at 5.1Ghz at 1.440v. I'm starting to fine tune each core and its voltage (very time consuming) separately.

 

That is a nice feature on the Rampage. It does not exist on the X299 Dark.

 

That sucks then, as the third core on my 7980XE is the hottest core and requires a lower voltage than the other 17. It's features like that help overall.

 

I have all 18 cores at 5.1. I even was running 4 cores at 5.2 and 14 at 5.1 but didn't notice any difference. I have speedstep disabled but other than that I have everything else on auto. I use XTU but I'm not sure what to set everything else at in the bios. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks. Oh BTW I live in NJ and I see you are in the NE US.

 

Can you post a photo of your current BIOS settings (core voltage, etc)? I'll try to point you to some settings to adjust. I live in CT, right nearby.

 

Ok I will later today. I appreciate your help, Thank you.

 

Awesome. Perfect timing. Your card from me is arriving today.

 

Looking for some help deciding on how to proceed. Should I water cool the two K|NGP|N 1080 TI's or two Asus Strix 1080 TI's? Keep in mind, the number of waterblocks for the K|NGP|NS are limited (EVGA's which are officially EOL or Bykski's). On the other hand, the Strix's have different PCB's, so I will need to source two different waterblocks. Ultimately that wouldn't matter too much. The K|NGP|N cards are designed for LN2, so performance on water between the Strix and those KP's will be close.

If I could get the official EVGA copper blocks for the KP's, I would have gone down that road, however EVGA only made 250 blocks according to information I've read.

 

Too bad the person says it was an unauthorized purchase. Refund

 

You didn't send the card did you?

 

nope

 

Don't worry. There will be another buyer. The 1080 Ti is in high demand and I suspect you will sell it very soon.

Yeah, the people on eBay are getting flakier by the day. The person I sold the Rampage board to started acting a little weird as well. He changed his mind and asked me to cancel it. Then he changed his mind again and told me not to cancel it. He paid me and I shipped it. After he received it he complained that some of the accessories, like the DIMM.2 cards, were not in the original bags. He also complained that I did not include the generic white box the replacement board came in from ASUS even though my auction very clearly said only the motherboard was new, as an in-warranty replacement, and that it would ship in the original box with the original accessories. Most people would be very happy to have the original box. I told him I could send him the white box if he wanted it. I haven't heard from him since.

I always give positive feedback to buyers and sellers, and I seldom get any feedback as a seller. The guy that bought the ASROCK Taichi emailed me and told me how happy he was with the purchase and even sent an extra $20 to my PayPal because he was so happy with it, but never posted feedback for me, LOL.

 

When I was still trying to buy a matching 1080 Ti SC2 to mod for SLI and another Hydro Copper there were a half dozen or so Hydro Copper blocks for K|INGP|N 1080 Ti on eBay. Have you checked there already. I'd water cool the K|INGP|N cards if I were you. Those are still Brother @Johnksss's go-to GPU. You can use one of those NZXT brackets to make any GPU water cooled using an AIO water block (which can be added to a custom loop). I think that is what John has been using on his K|INGP|N cards if memory serves me correctly. Maybe he can clarify that in case I am mistaken.

 

I had tried something like that at first, but then just bought a Kingpin water block.(AM- Bitspower)
The LED is a separate purchase as well.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/bitspower-vga-block-for-evga-1080ti-kingpin-edition.html

I think I'm going to let it go though and do something else...not exactly sure just what though.

 

OK, well then, here is another shameless plug for EVGA. I had a question about the RGB firmware on my RTX 2080 Ti and sent them an email. But, immediately after that I noticed their tech support is open 24/7. So, I called and spoke to someone within a matter of minutes and got my question answered. EVGA FTW.

 

Hey, still selling this card? Inbox with details.

 

I'm sorry but it sold last night. But thanks for your interest and if this sale gets cancelled I'll PM you.

 

Sure, no problem. Thanks for your time.

 

Can confirm, they run 24/7. Only ever called once for questions regarding their EVGA Pro SLI bridges on the GTX 980Ti and actually spoke to a person.
A live human was on the other end of the line. Compare the same experience calling up Dell on mum's behalf and I had to spend ~45 minutes on the line because for whatever reason the call was transferred to a call center (probably in India, judging by the accents) and the issue was never resolved.

It's the small things that matter.

 

Yup, and it was 9PM when I called. It took less than a 2-minute wait. The person I spoke with had no foreign accent and was super nice, and the guy sent me a follow up email with his first and last name in case I needed to contact him again. He knew the answer and didn't have to research any kind of canned documentation or look at a flow chart.

 

oi! nothing against foreign accents!

 

LOL, not that as much as working with a home boy when you need help. Outsourced/offshored labor usually sucks in comparison, whether foreign or domestic. There are plenty of foreign accents locally as well, but it was good knowing I was dealing with another Norte Americano en el Estados Unidos. Similar time zone and some common cultural connections also doesn't hurt.

 

https://www.3dmark.com/vrpor/290292 | http://hwbot.org/submission/4023309_

https://www.3dmark.com/vrpcr/23279 | http://hwbot.org/submission/4023261_

https://www.3dmark.com/vrpbr/51120 | http://hwbot.org/submission/4023273_

 

I guess I should probably test this again with the RTX card.

 

Seems to be broken. The score is identical no matter what I do. Maybe the ray tracing elements of the GPU run at a fixed speed that is not affected by overclocking. This is stock, and the score it exactly the same with a hefty overclock on the GPU. It doesn't actually seem to put the GPU under load. It never reaches 100% of TDP and only reaches around 130W, whereas other benchmarks reach like 370W. Or, it may also be that this benchmark is only suitable for software ray tracing and may not do anything with hardware or DXR. At any rate, it seems to be a waste of time. I did not even bother sumitting it.

 

https://www.3dmark.com/vrpcr/23311 | http://hwbot.org/submission/4023642_

https://www.3dmark.com/vrpbr/51181 | http://hwbot.org/submission/4023644_

 

Great scores, bro.

Just an FYI... if you set your display scaling to 100% you should be able to fit all of that on a 1080p display without having to use Photo Viewer to resize the Cinebench screen shot and overlap the CPU-Z windows.

 

Yes, I plan I doing that in the future. So I got your card Thursday and I'll be putting it in next week. I already flashed my 1080 Ti bios to the modded one. If you have time late next week maybe we could do a Team Viewer. Have a Great New Year Brother

 

I'm being handicapped by my air cooled 1080 TI's. I've reached 12110 points on TS Extreme's CPU score but I went backwards on Graphics. https://www.3dmark.com/spy/5625524 What to do.... EDIT: I'm going to see if there are any better vBIOS for these cards.

 

Just an update. Instead of going with the clevo at $2500, I bought the Asus GL702ZC with the desktop Ryzen 1700 in it for $1079. Couldnt pass up on a deal like that. Maybe another desktop down the road, who knows

 

I think you already have the best GPUs and vBIOS money can buy (short of getting a modded vBIOS directly from Vince, which I think might be possible if you email him). Maybe Brother @Johnksss could give you some pointers on what has worked best for him in terms of K|INGP|N 2080 Ti settings. With Pascal and Turing, higher clocks and more power sometimes takes you a step backwards on benchmark scores, which is totally counterintuitive. I'm still trying to wrap my head around what makes the 2080 Ti sing the loudest. One behavior that seems common with both generations is you need the power limit to be higher by a certain margin than the power you are drawing. When you hit the power limit, or start approaching it, the clocks start pulling back to reduce power consumption to avoid reaching and sustaining power draw at the power limit, which is totally stupid. Ideally, the power limit needs to be raised to twice what the card is capable of, or just eliminated entirely. (Much like a CPU... no power limit means it can run wild and free, until it overheats or runs out of voltage.)

 

https://www.3dmark.com/nr/49822 | http://hwbot.org/submission/4027546_

 

Bro, this is what you got:10 OHM 5% 1/2W 0805 This is what I got:0805 10 Ohm 1/8 Watt 5% Resistor. Should I have gotten the 1/2W rather than the 1/8W?

 

I am not sure. I think the most important part is the 10 ohm resistance for the shunt mod, but I am not real sharp on this stuff. I just copy what I see working for others. I believe all you are doing is changing the resistance and creating a false signal that is deceiving the GPU into believing it is pulling one third to one half the watts that it actually is. After doing the mod, your watts readings in sensor software like HWiNFO64 will be one third to one half of what the card is actually drawing. Maybe @Khenglish can clarify if it matters, but I am guessing it won't.

 

http://hwbot.org/submission/4028423_ | https://benchmark.unigine.com/results/rid_80685c354424419998c24fd4c1001ee6

 

Is anyone here going to build a new threadripper rig? Curious to see how they are benching.

 

Far too much money to spend on a guinea pig experiment. I'd need to wait until I see multiple examples of TR chips running 5.2GHz on cold water and running DDR4-4000+ stable before I would roll the dice using my own money.

 

Zen+ didn't offer much over my 1950X (talking about the 2950X) in terms of clocks. Memory support has been expanded but I'm already running 3600Mhz and I don't see a reason to upgrade. Zen 2 will bring AMD to 4.7 to 4.9Ghz on their LCC chips but I don't think it will come to TR.

 

Debating it versus going Epyc. Will depend on if I can afford it this summer and on whether I want to go Epyc with Zen 3 in 2020 supporting DDR5 (already announced). Wondering if they will do a speed optimized variant like the 7371 that is clocked to TR speeds on a 16-core chip.

Yeah, I think Epyc, if they leave the chips unlocked and the speed is fast enough, would be better. 2666MT ram gives 150+GBps 8 channel memory speeds, thereby making the requirement of DDR-4000 no longer necessary, just getting timings tight to lower latency. But many variables there. Also, that would give 128 pcie lanes in a 1p system. Just something to think about since Zen 2 supports pcie 4.0.

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I will disagree here. Better binned chips and more surface area should allow roughly the same sort of speeds as the 16 core mainstream chips, if they exist. 1 week and we will have a better idea.

 

http://hwbot.org/submission/4029471_ | https://www.3dmark.com/vrpbr/51871