Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo Sa 3650!

ilyon: There are a lot of quite cheap CPUs on ebay which will probably increase performance a lot.
http://computers.shop.ebay.com/item...1&_npmv=3&_sacat=158885&_trksid=p3286.c0.m282

 

I wondering if i could install the CPU M600 witch is socket S1 same like ZM-80. How you thing, will run it?

 

Im running ZM-87 in my laptop, no problems at all. 3dmark06 is around 8100 in windows 7, x64.

Had a ZM-80 before.

 

Hy Everyone,

I have a small problem with my external vidcard. If I send my laptop to shutdown it starts the cooling vent in max capacity. And won't stop unthil I start the laptop again or I disconnect the power from it.

Any idea? No bios or other changer. just the autotic update for win7 x64

 

Make bios update (1.05) it fix the screen from black when you wake it from sleep. And make sure you have the drivers installed for graphic booster from here http://ts.fujitsu.com/support/downloads.html

 

It's already in 1.05.....

I habe this problem aprox 3 weeks

 

Regarding the awesomely ugly blue hotkey OSD.

I found out that you could change the images for the OSD with a program called ResHack (or resource hacker, it's a freeware utility to view, modify, rename, add, delete and extract resources in 32bit Windows executables and resource files. It can be downloaded here: http://angusj.com/resourcehacker/ ).

The files relevant to the OSD can be found in the Launch Manager directory: OSD.exe, Hotkeyapp.exe, FanSysTray.exe and WisKeyState.exe.

I don't know anything about programming or the like, so I couldn't figure out how to swap the bitmaps (.bmp) with .png files- which means that transparency is an issue: only the color white is transparent.
Also I couldn't find and replace the text that says 'Silent mode' and 'Normal mode'.

Anyhow, I sorta made a theme with some sprites from Super Mario Bros. It's not super duper good, but it beats the ugly blue .

Screenshots can be found here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34234973@N08/sets/72157622860034036/

The altered files can be found here (Ps! I've only changed the bitmaps and icons):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F0U88VYE

If anybody know how to use .png files in stead of .bmp I'd be happy to learn how.

 

What drivers are you using for internal boost?

 

got a question...

will it be possible to change the Cpu to the AMD Turion II Ultra M600, M620 or even M660?

It seems that the ZM-8X uses the S1G2 socket, and the M6XX uses the S1G3..

someone knows?

 

Processor AMD Turion II Ultra Dual-Core Mobile Processors
Model M600
OPN Tray TMM600DBO23GQ
OPN PIB N/A
Operating Mode 32 Bit Yes
Operating Mode 64 Bit Yes
Core Count 2
Socket S1
Core Speed (MHz) 2400
System Bus Speed (MHz) 3600
Wattage 35 W
L2 Cache Size (KB) 2000
Process Technology 45nm SOI
Virtualization Yes

Processor AMD Turion™ X2 Ultra Dual-Core Mobile Processor
Model ZM-86
OPN Tray TMZM86DAM23GG
OPN PIB N/A
Operating Mode 32 Bit Yes
Operating Mode 64 Bit Yes
Core Count 2
Socket S1
Core Speed (MHz) 2400
System Bus Speed (MHz) 3600
Wattage 35 W
L2 Cache Size (KB) 2000
Process Technology 65nm SOI
Virtualization No

They both use the same socket S1, i thing it can be done.

 

could be so nice.. i could rly use some more cpu power for 3ds max and stuff..

dunno the price for M6xx cpus... but if its not possible to change it, im going for a zm-87 instead, if it gets a bit cheaper..

 

I have the same cpu like yours one. Thinking to change in past not for now. I am happy with ZM-80 less power used more battery duration.

 

Great! Will change those ugly pictures straight away. The original pictures are embarrassedly ugly.

Cheers!
Adrian

 

Hello,

I'm trying to run some older games. It's possible to display 1024x768 resolution unstretched on internal LCD screen (with black bars on sides)? I know that there should be an option in CCC, but I cannot find it. Screen shot of my catalyst control center is attached. Operating system Windows Vista SP2.

Thank you for help.

 

Just switched from the stock zm-80 to a zm-86 cpu and went from 7400 p to 8000 p in 3dmark06.

Anyhow... since I dont use the dvd drive I consider removing it and replacing it wit a secondary hard drive. To be more specific, I want to move the current HDD to the dvd slot and put in a SSD in the original hard drove slot. Have anyone of you found a caddy that fits? In other case have any of you pics of the dvd drive cuz I need to see what the bay and the internal connection looks like.

 

Does anyone know wich SATA controller version this computer runs?

 

I think I found the answer myself...
The sa3650 has an AMD 780G north bridge and a SB700 south bridge.
According to wikipedia the SB700 runs SATA 3.0.
This mean that I can make use of the performance if I decide to to replace the HDD with a SSD...

 

anybody end up trying this ? i'd quite like to put a 45nm turion II in my socket S1 rig, which is currently running an athlon QL-64.

 

Hi!
Have any of you overclocked the XGP? I have tried both Ati Tray tools and RivaTuner and havent managed. Which softwares and hod did you do it.

Thanks.

 

I am using AMD GPU Clock Tool the only one that work for me on Windows 7.

 

I'm also running win7 32-bit with the latest catalyst drivers. But cannot change the clock settings. The settings keep reseting. Any clues?

EDIT 1: Tried both the 8.57-WHQL and other drivers. BTW it isnt very important for me to be able to boost the internal screen since I use an external one for gaming.
EDIT 2: Tested with ATI tray tools (freezes the computer), ATI tool (doesnt run correctly), RivaTuner 2.24 (unable to overclock), AMD GPU Clock Tool (unable to overclock).

 

What harddrive temperatures are you guys getting with your Sa3650? Mine's peaking at 65C under stress/gaming, this is too high right? I've cleared out all the air vents so it's not dust. I'm using http://www.cpuid.com/hwmonitor.php to check temperatures.

 

Try to clock about 20-50 Mhz at a time, and you should see that it will change the clocks. Run GPUz to see the correct clocks rate and the temperature.

 

I am using GPUz and Windows 7 64bit. I have max themp 61C and fan speed is around 71% with Vista i had 50-55C and fan speed about 60% .

 

The gpu/mem settings are not set whatever speed I choose.
The screen flickers 2 times and then back to default, 648/999. According to GPUz the settings remain at 648/999 the whole time.
What now? Please help me.

 

Sounds like your looking at graphics card temperature? I was referring to the hard drive.

 

Hmm... which windows are you using and which version of drivers? With AMD GPU Clock i can reduce clock of internal card too. I am using the latest driver for crossDisplay and Windows 7 64bit. Here is a log from GPUz about clocks, 2009-11-28 18:38:07 , GPU Core Clock [MHz] 351.0 , GPU Memory Clock [MHz] 499.5, Fan Speed [%] 61.0 , Temp 71 (on Windows 7 64bit you see the half clocks of GB) my GPU core clock is 700Mhz how you see.

 

How you can see GB Hard driver temp? You only need to know gpu core temp. That is what you need to know.

 

I'm using Win 7 Pro 32bit with Catalyst 9.12, havetried 9.9 and 8.57 (FSC) also. Today I've been using "AMD GPU Clock Tool" to set the speeds.

Which are drivers are you using? (Just too make sure that we are using the same)

 

He is not referring too boosters HDD temp but to the laptop HDD temp

@ Buddzha: Havent stressed my HDD alot by after running 3dMark06 a couple of times the maximum temp was around 50 degrees celsius. I agree, 65 C sounds a bit too high.

 

The only version that i tried is 8.631.1.0 from Fujitsu official site. Is that you are using?

 

I´ll try that one right away...

 

It is Hard Disk Drive. He confused me well my HDD is 7200RPM so i got max ~60.

 

@arrostos: The drivers seems to have made the trick. THANKS!
But receives a blue-screen when installing the drivers. Catalyst wont install from these drivers....

Will confirm this once more after 3Dmark.

 

Hi again!
Spent the last couple of hours on installing/uninstalling different drivers. The ONLY drive suite which I found that allows OC in Win 7 is the 8.631.1 (latest from FSC homepage). But this driver seems to a bug!! Every other driver that I've tested gives around 8100p in 3dmark06 with my computer setup. But this driver gives only around 7600p. The error seems to be in PCIe drivers which inly allows the GB to run @ 8x v1.1 instead of v2.0 which forces the GPU/mem to run at half the speed (checked with GPU-z). Check out these screenshots.

Fujitsu drivers


Non Fujitsu drivers - Windows default and newer catalyst


Could this be similar problem as this? http://forum.ts.fujitsu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=40793


Please verify this guys!

EDIT: Hmm... not sure about the performance loss... cannot manage to get it back to 8000p...
EDIT 2: My bad. The performance wasnt changed that much. The temporary performance loss was due to background processes thet wasnt stopped. Now I get 7870 with FSC drivers, previously around 8000-8050p.

 

Well, that is true. I have the same problem, and don't know if is serious problem or not, clocks seems reduced, temp goes up and fan speed got about 10% up. But i didn't loose 3dmarks point.

 

So I believe we can consider this a general issue for these drivers, and I would like others that have experienced this to post on the the Fujitsu forum here so they can fix this. Thanks!

 

Without spending to much time spent on overclocking the booster i increased my 3dmark03 score from 7870p to 8425p @ 796/1080.

How much have you managed to OC the booster?

 

I didn't spent much time on oc, need a better cooler and, stable drivers for this, cause with thous drivers is too risky. What temp/fanspeed you have with overclock?

 

The temps goes to 78C and the fans to 85 % i think. It seem that I can go much higher with either GPU nor mem. GPU settings higher than 796 will cause 3dmarks to crash and mem settings higher 1080 will give artifacts while running.
I found a sw a while ago to manually set the fan settings thresholds but I dont seem to remember which. And regarding better cooling try something like this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFzch3EL6Ww

 

umm.. just 1 question guys, how do you overclock the amilo sa 3650 ?? I can't seem to find a tool to overclock the CPU or the GPU, and also I can't monitor the temps of the HDD or the fan speeds.....

 

For overclocking the GPU the already mentioned AMD GPU Clock Tool works just fine for me.

-pisto

 

I also use AMD GPU Clock Tool. As mentioned earlier you must use the drivers from Fujitsus home page. They are the only drivers I know of that gives the possibility of overclocking.
I use HW Monitor to monitor the temps of my computer but I dont know which software to use to monitor the fan speeds.

 

There is new bios update for Amilo Sa 3650
Date: 23.09.2009
Version: 1.07
Manufacturer: Fujitsu Technology Solutions
Status: Released for AMILO Notebook Sa 3650

 

Anyone noticed the difference with the latest bios? The only thing the FSC 1.07 Bios update notes says is:
- Windows 7 support implemented.
... but what does this exactly mean...?

 

Well after when i update my bios, i had a problem with sound. There was some noise while was playing a music. But when i update sound card with new drivers, the problem gone... Did not notice any other problems for now.

 

is there any news about the problem of Gpu who run at half of capacity on Windows7 32/64bits with fujitsu drivers?? (With official newest driver, the internal screen is not supported, no??)

 

The problem still exist. No new drivers for CrossDisplay.
And i don't see any step from Fujitsu to fix this bug. It's seems they forgot it.

 

Ok thanks ^^!! So i will post it again on the fujitsu forum!!

I have see an other "problem" on the french fujitsu forum: with windows7
in CPU-Z the Core Speed is sometime at 550.5 Mhz (but not with "cool and quiet" activated )
(anyone can confirm if there is the same value in vista please?)

 

That is not a problem. If your power plan is set to balance, the system automatically reduce clock speed to consuming less power, when don't need more power. I have ZM-80 and on balance power plan, i have 525 MHz.