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    7970M benchmark results (ONLY)

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Meaker@Sager, Jun 8, 2012.

  1. unclewebb

    unclewebb ThrottleStop Author

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    Can you post a screen shot of how you had ThrottleStop setup. It has helped quite a few Clevo owners recently.
     
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    Sure:

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    Which version of ThrottleStop is best for Clevo P170EM + 7970m owners?
    Plz provide download link for that version too.
    Thx in advance.
     
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    Try reading the two posts above yours.
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Still not a bad overclock though :)

    What about if you drop the core back a bit, can you up the memory any more?
     
  7. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Not reliably, I still get a black screen total crash (restart required)

    If its a core failure its a crash followed by a recover.

    I would guess its a memory chip at its limit.
     
  8. fenryr423

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    my stability with OC has varied greatly with different drivers meaker. I ended up reverting to the original drivers in the end as the 12.7 (unofficial) started artifacting, but i think it was the 12.5 where i had the highest OC
     
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    Still not getting close to the dell card which could do 1020/1550 at stock voltage.
     
  10. fenryr423

    fenryr423 Notebook Evangelist

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    well we are also getting screwed by enduro. it definetly effects stability as my GPU usage is all over the map... we need prema to make us a custom bios so that we can disable that crap
     
  11. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    You can't, it's a case of hardware, not software.

    See why:

    [​IMG]
     
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    I can't believe AMD and their ridiculously bad drivers. I've finally somehow gotten my machine to run BF3, but I get kicked dude to "ignoring queries 9006 error". Which I googled and is apparently due to new AMD drivers after 12.0

    -_-
     
  13. unclewebb

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    iaTa: For ThrottleStop to work properly, you need to enable EIST in the bios and in ThrottleStop. If you don't do this, ThrottleStop may or may not work. If you don't get any difference in performance with or without ThrottleStop then that's a good thing and you don't need to run it. W110ER owners need to run ThrottleStop so the CPU can run full Turbo Boost while gaming or anytime the GPU is active.
     
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    Meaker I was searching that forever. Where did you find information on that?
     
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    you need to Enable EIST and C1e

    EDIT: unclewebb beat me to it lol
     
  17. fenryr423

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    i really think there is something else going on with your machine... you are either installing something incorrectly (not saying that in a rude way) or you have something else working improperly cuz noone is having remotely as many issues as you are
     
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    I drew that myself, looking at pics of the motherboard and the traces and also the fact there is no switch, why pay for all that extra design and never implement it?
     
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    I would agree that something else is going on, I've tried installing the drivers all sorts of different ways with no avail. I get bsod every time I install one and then restart. Sometimes during the install Itself. I don't want to rma as I've waited months for this. I pre ordered may 1 and waited even longer before for the new cpu and gpu. I can install beta 12.7 and play games but once I restart bsod. ...

    If I restart and get bsod then go to safe mode and use drive sweeper to uninstall AMD drivers I can boot back up fine so I think it's software. I have gotten it to Max out bf3 and tribes ascend fine for 30 or so minutes just fine and then I stopped playing from boredom and 4restarted comp and bam bsod .... so I feel its drivers
     
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    So far im sattisfied with tha laptop, but setting up windows with the right drivers was a pain in the a$$. tryed all the combinations with all driver versions out, reinstalled OS 3 times, but still the 12.5 that came on the cd ist the best. I've been folloving all the threads with 7970m and to be prepared for all the problelems, so I can just confirm that I'm also gettting the low utilization problem esspecially in BF3 whitch i bought it for. But this is clearly a driver issue, so hopefully we will have better drivers soon.
    As for the benchmarks. I already posted 3d mark 11 but for those who missed it
    AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3610QM Processor,CLEVO P15xEMx score: P6732 3DMarks
    this is 1060/1560 max temperature 83 C
    So far i tryed only afew games so Ill share mi results to give people an idea
    BF3 at Ultra withx4 msaa runs smooth at more than 40 fps all the time(40-60) GpU utilization was almost from 85-99%. However i wanted it mostly for multiplayer which didnt run that great.It was from 35-50 but it often dips to like 20 on big maps like caspian and karkand.Utilization 60-90%

    Crysis 2 was Ok.Everything maxed 30-50 fps with dx 11 nad hirez textures. But also utlization was from 70-99

    Alan wake went really great. 99% utilization all the time more than 45 fps al the time . usualy raond 55. also temps vere higher . was reaching around 89 C

    Formula 1 2011. In game benchmark was running around 35 fps and utliization was never higher than 50-60%

    GTA4 with patch 1.0.4.0 . everything maxed out also wiev distance an detail distance I was getting in game around 35-45 fps but tha again utilizatin was around 40-60 % .

    Crysis 1 - Everything very hight + AA 4x around 30-45 , utilization 70-90%

    Im runnign trottlestop 5.00 all the time and also msi afterburner to monitor things.I'm exited tosee when WHQL drivers come out and the gpu will run hopefully at 99% all the time- we will see some super results :) Im planning on doing a quick review of the machine samewhere around satturday sunday as I have a realy bad exma on friday and dont have time for this right now so stay tuned :)
     
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    mahalsk, the 8.951 drivers that came on your CD are actually 12.3's...the real 12.5's (link found in my 7970m guide) are actually faster and better

    If you want to install any of the later drivers on top of your 8.951, just download the newer driver (probably a beta), then do a custom install and only choose the display driver in the list.

    Can you run the Crysis 2 bench found here with 1080p ULTRA, high res on, 4XAA

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/672507-crysis-2-benchmark.html

    THNX! :)
     
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    with the new "official" 12.7s are people still having trouble with 3dmark?
     
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    I would like to run it but damn it wont start, it stopped working after the crytek logo appeared :( Oh so they are 12.3 ?? :) So the 12.5 in your guide are better? Im especiali interested in bf3 performance cause for me its unplayble whe its dipping down to 25 fps in the middle of a gun fight :(
    If the increase in utilization is not that big I'll just stick with the ones i have, Couse I dont want to reinstall windows again and istall everything over again if something goes wrong ...
     
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    not on my machine...but you will lose 50 points off your score

    Ya, i think you need a certain patch version of crysis 2 to run that bench.

    Actually, the 12.7 betas are reporting the best frame rates on games so far...the 12.5's give the best 3dmark11s
     
  28. mahalsk

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    I dont care too much about benchmarks, so that doesant matter. However i tryed 12.7s a few times when i was setting up mi system and they doesant seem to work for me. I tryed to install the after the intel drivers, or installing just the driver it self over the sotck ones it it never worked properly. Do you know a specific way to instal them on a sager ?? thanks
     
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    yes...do a full installation of the default 8.951's that came with your clevo driver disk

    Then download the 12.7 betas...click install and choose custom install. From the available options on the list, choose "Display Driver" ONLY. Install, reboot
     
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    I did a custom install of the 12.7 leaked beta where i just chose the display driver. After doing it though i cant run 3dmark, but i have increased fps in games. Im still not sold on the 12.7 official betas until someone says that they can run 3dmark on a clevo unit
     
  31. 3Stars&ASun

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    yep same thing on BF3 multiplayer it goes down to 20 or lower for like 5 seconds then goes back to average 40-50 FPS on the same server/map that I was getting 45-50 FPS all the time and never lower with my GTX 560m (low settings). I guess if you really want to play bf3 the way its meant to be played you have to go with Nvidia. Was the AMD 6990m also unstable on BF3 Multiplayer????
     
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    what happens when you set your graphical detail settings to the same as your 560m?
     
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    I get the exact same performance no matter what settings with the 7970m, I actually get lower FPS average 30-40 FPS on low settings due to the lower 40-50% GPU utilization. I'm about to post a gameplay with me changing around the settings and seeing NO performance gains, always 30-60 FPS and goes 20 FPS and lower for a couple seconds, even on small close quarter maps.
     
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    ok...if you are getting the exact same fps regardless of how you set your graphical settings, this tells me that there is a bottleneck somewhere else. You gaming over wireless? Have your tried plugging in?

    what about your temps? Are you throttling?

    Have you tried different servers?
     
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    its just the still developing enduro. it messes with the GPU usage so that the GPU doesnt output the correct amount of power.
     
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    hmmm...it's possible. But i haven't heard of anything like this with the Alienware R4's with enduro enabled. Have you guys gone into CCC and set BF3 to high performance?

    Another thing that you might want to try is put a request in at bios-mods.com for an unlocked bios for your clevos so you can kill the integrated graphics

    Bios Mods -The Best BIOS Update and Modification Source
     
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    @3Stars&ASun

    I dont think that you need to go with nvidia, Till now I had a msi GX660R with a 5870m which served mi wll for almost 2 years, and i had no problems playing battlefield 3. Yeah it was with lowwered details like 1600x900 and everything on low-med . But I was at a steady 40-50 fps all the time. Yeah but mine 7970m behaves the same as your. No matter what settings I choose its still the same. ACtualy the best performance is when I have everything maxed out with 4xmsaa- I get 35-50 fps with 70-95 % utilization and when I turn down the MSAA I get the same fps with utilization around 65-75%. Some games work fine some dont so i reffer this to a driver issue which hopefully will be solwed soon.

    @SlickDude
    I tryed to istall those 12.7's over the sotck ones when I've got my laptop, but it didnt work.the system started with a error sayng that the driver istnt working properly, and after that I needed to reistall mi OS to get thins working. Maybe its due to tha fact that I can't unthick all the the options only those in the squares??
    [​IMG]

    BTW just made a run on vantage 1060/1560
    [​IMG]
     
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    The best of all is that i found this forum and ordered a custom Clevo P170EM with 7970m :D

    I was almost ordering my Asus G75!

    What a major error i was going to make :p
     
  39. Meaker@Sager

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    Throttlestop evened out my dirt3 fps quite a bit.

    64.73 average, 47.07 minimum (ultra 1080p 4x AA).
     
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    Temps stays below 80C even when overclocked, had throttlestop 5.0 running on game mode with ATI gpu checked, and I game on wired LAN and my laptop has been plugged in ever since I got it. computer set to high performance, BF3 and everything on CCC set to high performance... and im not running any other program when playing.
     
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    I can't get MSI afterburner, HWinfo, HWmon, EVGA precision, any of them to monitor my temps, and I can play games fine, on High/Ultra for BF3 1080p, but thats with 9.0 driver and stock everything else [custom install]

    and once i restart the computer it will BSOD and not work -_-.

    WHY!?
     
  42. Kingpinzero

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    Thats great, but something still isnt right.
    Heres mine (ultra preset, 4xAA, Vsync OFF, game patched up):

    965/1500
    average min_fps="70.998360" av_fps="82.989952" min_fps_ms="14.084832" av_fps_ms="12.049651"

    Stock clocks
    average min_fps="62.976013" av_fps="74.504601" min_fps_ms="15.879062" av_fps_ms="13.421990"

    I mean 10fps difference is huge. Im using yesterday official 12.7 official beta btw.
     
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    When I want to see mi clocks or temps in msi afterburner or other software I need to run the MSI kombustor first. After I launch it , I can overclock, see temps, ANd even see the 7970 in HW info which i didnt before. Thought thats on the stock drivers that came on the cd
     
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    Theres already a couple Clevo 7970m owners that confirmed BF3 maxed OR low settings on multiplayer is unstable and goes down to 20 FPS at times... only Clevo owners so far... with enduro on.

    Here's a video of gameplay on different settings. I forgot to enlarge the on screen display but i have more uploading. I had it overclocked at 950/1400, had throttlestop 5.0 running on game with ATI GPU checked, laptop plugged in high performance, everything on CCC high performance including BF3, wired LAN via ethernet cable... FPS average 30-60 never stable, and sometimes goes down as low as 20 FPS. on same server/map i get 45-50 FPS with GTX 560m on low settings... not cool.
    Clevo P150EM / Sager NP9150 7970m BF3 Multiplayer Gameplay - YouTube
     
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    Ooooh Ok, thanks :)

    Back to the testing I go...
     
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    ok to all of you freeking who are scared that amd is the problem to why your 7970m is not running bf3 stably. well i have some news for you all about bf3. first of all i want to ask you all on stock how well does your single 7970 run other games are they stable or jumping all around too. because my desktop with 2 470gtx's are jumping all around on bf3 also. if you ask me. unless all your games are doing this. it may very well be poor programming on bf3's part. i know nvidia 500 and 600 series are doing just fine. but there the only cards that are. i think driver updates may fix this. i also think bf3 may have done some bad programming on there part. I feel there is to much on the cpu in that game.
     
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    My GTX 560m was stable at 45-50 FPS and never any lower on low settings on the same server/map I used to play. It even had a slower CPU than the 3610qm that I have. Sorry but your argument is invalid.
     
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    I've just been testing Dirt 3 Ultra at 1000/1500 clocks.

    I experienced almost identical scores at 0xMSAA, 4xMSAA and 8xMSAA - Average FPS ~63 and minimum FPS ~45.

    Also v-sync is strange as average FPS is ~46 and minimum is FPS is ~38. That minimum shouldn't even be possible?
     
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    drivers are not running the 7970m with stability. The new drivers supports the 7970m, but doesn't make it run any better (nor say it does) than the stock drivers from our manufacturers... we need official support from AMD specifically for the 7970m with enduro, not just drivers that are capable of running it. Now we have to play the waiting game again.
     
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