860m is a Beast

Okay. Do you have any idea about my first question?

 

Did you trying raising Power Target in Nvidia Inspector? Otherwise you need the unlocked vBIOS.

 

It is greyed out in Nvidia Inspecter too. I will download unlocked vBios. By the way, is raising Power Target dangerous as raising voltage? I don't know if that unlocked vBios has plus voltage than default. I really don't want to push voltage. Unlocked Power Target value will be good enough for me.

 

If raising power limit stops clock throttling it will increase heat but not as much as also increasing voltage

 

I appreciate your help, thanks!

 

I actually repasted with Arctic Silver 5 and it seemed to do a decent job, dropped degrees a bit. On stock, there was so much thermal paste it was nasty to clean.

Would either of those two be a better option for paste?

 

I was wondering whether to get a laptop with a gtx860m I read into some of the reviews that the card teds to throttle and heat up. I'm not sure if this is consistent for all laptops or just some, so if anyone could give input that would be great.Also, is it capable of handling games that are out right now and in the future for medium to high graphics on most games. Should i just skip this and go for the gtx965m? thanks for any responses.

 

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watch dogs runs butter smooth on the 860m @ high settings.

was considering changing my w230ss to something else but after finding our how much extra juice the 860m can pump out via overclocking, not gonna bother now.

will just wait for the next refresh of the w230.

 

Next refresh of W230 has a 960M which will be an OCed 860M so no point waiting for it.. Stick with what you have..

 

You're amazing, thank you so much

 

Overclocking will be restored now
http://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-to-re-enable-overclocking-on-gtx-900m-gpus/

 

Long time lurker, have read most of this thread, alot of reading lol.

I have the HP Omen which has the GTX860m.

I have been reading up on bios modding to overclock my GPU and think im ready to flash but would like some advice on what i have done so far.

I have the system bios from hp update XXXX.bin
I have opened this with PhoenixTool, which creates a DUMP folder.
I have located the correct .ROM file which holds my vBios.
I have opened this vBios with Maxwell Bios Tweaker and can modify some settings although a few are greyed out, unavailable to me.

2 options im unsure of

1.Using PhoenixTool i can change the advanced option to allow editing of the bios directly.
2.Using Insyde Bios own tool Ezh20 i can edit the vBios and replace the bios modules as i wish.

which is better? I think option 1 as its one application all in one, done, simple is better?

So...

Using PhoenixTool i enable live editing of the bios, make changes to correct .ROM package with Maxwell Bios Tweaker, save bios, exit PhoenixTool.

I then recheck new bios i have just created all changes i made are there, main file size is exactly the same, all seems good.

I could use HP built in bios update software and it would update the bios as if its just an update from HP like i have done afew times already for HP updates.

Does anyone see any problems with what i have done.

Once i know im on the right track i need to decide on which options to changes in the vBios.

Also talk about RSA bios signing around the net has me worried? Should i be?

Thanks all

 

Hello there,
I'm new to this forum, the notebook I use is the ASUS G750JM with GTX 860M (Maxwell).
Currently I'm looking for the latest appropriate modded vBIOS for this chip and notebook to unlock unlimited OC.
The only Prema version with 860m support I found was this one:
https://biosmods.wordpress.com/w230ss-np7338/
https://biosmods.wordpress.com/w230ss-changelog/

Is this the correct one? If not, where can I find the correct version?

Thanks guys

 

yeah, so i've read.

http://gpuboss.com/graphics-card/GeForce-GTX-960M

looks about the same as a 860m, pretty pointless doing a refresh.

 

That's why you get the 965M. Outperforms the 780M and M290X in games that are not held back by the 2GB of memory. GM204.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-965M.134120.0.html

Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

 

http://forum.techinferno.com/asus/7072-prema-mod-gtx860m-vbios-g750jm.html

 

hello Prema, would you happen to still have the original bios of the ASUS G750jm 860m GTX? if not would you be able to point me out a source where I can find it? thank you so much for your work!

 

What do you think about GTA V in 860m maxwell 2gb?

 

I am going to get an HP Omen soon so I was thinking about this too. Hopefully I will be able to OC it enough for high settings

 

It seems like the 860m (or 960m) gets a lot of optimisations from Nvidia, and therefore has an advantage despite being a "midrange" chip only. However this could be false impressions because so many people make videos on youtube praising how great all these games run on high settings (except maybe AC:Unity / Dragon Age Inquisition).

Aside from custom vBIOS, is it really such a wonder-gpu with lots of Nvidia support?

 

Yes, it's the perfect balance for me. Laptops with it can keep a thin profile with no thermal throttle, low noise and can run any game you throw at it on high settings at 1080p.
You can choose better fps at maxed settings but at the cost of a beefier and heavy machine with the top cards.

Owning a V17 nitro by Acer.

 

Oh definitely. An overclocked 860m plus an undervolted i7-4100hq equals a cool running beast of a combo.

Rocking a gigabyte P34G V2, and I never go past 80c for the GPU or CPU.

 

I have the GTX860m on a recently bought Lenovo Y50 and so far I am very happy with it.

I agree that it allows for a notebook with good graphics power in a slim package.

I have not personally had any need to overclock it yet.

Nice combo with the I7-4720HQ.

Eric

 

I am going to have the same combo in my omen that should hopefully arrive this week. Could you post your numbers? How high were you able to push it? Also, I don't have much experience in undervolting. Does that reduce the CPU performance? Is it because we usually don't max out the CPU anyway?

 

Undervolting just makes it run cooler and use less power at load, not to reduce CPU performance. It's like overclocking but the opposite. You optimize voltage for the stock CPU speed for best thermal and power performance.

 

Actually undervolting usually results in an overclock of the chip since it drops the power consumption so it does both.

 

Confused here. Undervolting is the opposite of overvolting. Underclocking is the opposite of overclocking. No?

Also what Ethrem said as far as Haswell is concerned.

 

Unfortunately, my bios is locked so I maxed out at +168 mhz core. But I saw that sebi managed to surpass an 870m on BF4 with an unlocked bios. I undervolted the CPU to -85mv and achieved about 3 degrees cooler with, to my surprise, a performance increase, probably because it throttled less. I actually noticed the biggest difference in temps by underclocking core 3 and 4 of the CPU achieving about 7 degrees, and no noticeable loss in performance. Finally, repasting is a no brainer as it gave me another 3-5 degrees and was super easy on my machine. So now I sit in the 70's, where stock I was at a consistent 91c. I would overcook a turkey with that kind of heat.

 

Well, it's same concept, just optimizing performance for the voltage or voltage for the CPU speed, po-tay-toe, po-ta-toe.

 

Lenovo Y50-70
Intel 4710HQ
Nvidia 860m 2Gb (+135mhz oc)
8Gb Ram

 

That looked really good.

Eric

 

That's great to hear. The Omen I'm going to get has a similar 2 fan cooling but in a slightly bigger case so hopefully even lower temps. I haven't tried it yet but apparently one of the posters in the Omen thread found a way to unlock OC without bios modding so hopefully I can take it further. If the game is stable at close to 870m/780m performance thats amazing from what I am coming from

 

It's probably a hidden feature that you have to enable in the bios menu. Which is how it should be.

 

If you are talking about OCing past the 135MHz limit, it can't be done without a vBIOS mod.
If you are talking about OCing in general, then 347.88 lets you OC.

 

Posted this in the Omen thread, but it may also be helpful for anyone interested in playing GTAV with a 4710HQ/860M combo:

 

Strange thing is that my 970m even with vsync off, it's almost like it's on adaptive vsync because it never exceeds 60FPS. Can't figure it out.

 

Strange. For some reason, with a core clock of 1.4 GHz, (offset +303 MHz) a memory clock of 2.85 GHz (offset +345 MHz) overvolted by 0.35 V, I can reach @HaloGod2012 's speeds and Fire Strike scores of 5000+ for graphics. His +800 MHz memory overclock is insane, but mine isn't too bad, too. Scores here. The physics score was somewhat limited, probably because of the processor.

Guess I got lucky.

 

Scores change when 3DMark and drivers are updated. This thread is almost a year old.

 

Has anyone played FSX/Prepar3d 2.5 on 860m with addons like 737NGX, REX, ORBX stuff, complex sceneries, and traffic. Very interested to know how it performs.

 

I can't comment on FSX, but I do have X-Plane 10.35 if it helps - W2XP scenery, HD Mesh v3, Mister X6 and ISDG scenery. Cloud density settings set to 40%, I can reach 20-30 FPS with extremely heavy cloud cover. Frame-rates exceed 45 FPS with more moderate cloud cover. Oh, and all this was with the Flightfactor 777-200LR. All were in 1920x1080 resolution.

I have tried FSX but found X-Plane to be more modern and suited to my needs.

The main limiter for any flight simulator is VRAM, and in the case of FSX, VAS. X-Plane is limited on my system because of the comparatively low VRAM - 2 GB, which happens to be the minimum nowadays - most GPUs come with around 3-4 GB standard.

 

The main limiter of any flight simulator is usually CPU speed, and single or dual core speed at that. I don't know how more vRAM would help with a GPU like 860m, because 2GB should be more than adequate. Just that more detail and more scenery you add will contribute to more vRAM required but also a lot more GPU power. I doubt even if you had a 4GB 860m that it would perform better in any scenario. I know as a fact that FSX won't benefit from any more vRAM.

 

I can get near right near +775 on the memory but sadly I am locked onto +135 for the core.

sigh that's just too bad. I've maxed the core +135/+775 for the memory and my temps hover around 65C. There is soooo much more room for improvement ugh. A poster on the Omen forum said he found a solution for it but I couldn't get it to work and he hasn't posted in a month eff

 

Real shame no one here tried 860m with Prepar3d 2.x. Other info I searched on the web isn't very conclusive, and there isn't much on Avsim either.
I will move away from FSX to P3D 2.x which has DX11, tesselation, etc, so would really know what I would be stepping in if I decide to choose 860m path. As for VRAM, I'm hardly concerned about it, because this card would hits its performance limit before running out of RAM. I just would really like to know where that performance limit lies...

 

Try X-Plane 10.

 

Sorry, but X-Plane has no PMDG stuff (yet), particularly 737NG, and it's unknown when IXEG is gonna finish developing their 737CL. Also, Q400 sucks on X-Plane. Nowhere near Majestic's version of Q400 for FSX/Prepar3d.
And last but not least, I already have invested quite a bit of money into addons for FSX which some are compatible with P3D. If I choose to use XP legally, it will be a suicide financially to my wallet.

 

Fair enough - I wouldn't want to switch over to FSX either, mainly because I spent too much on X-Plane.

 

Oh snap - I completely forgot about CPU. However, X-Plane is *extremely* multi-threaded - I use all four cores at max speed while running it. The makers (Laminar Research) say that it's better to have multi-core, even multiple physical CPUs if you want to jack up the flight models and certain graphical stuff like cars, objects and trees.

About VRAM, you'd be surprised. It's pretty easy to exceed 2 GB with payware scenery, and even most of the better-quality freeware ones.

Whenever I start lagging in X-Plane, it's because I run out of VRAM, like when I'm on descent and final approach to a thickly-populated city. The GPU isn't terribly stressed in terms of computational power unlike in first-person shooters and recent RPGs which have complex shadows and other fancy eye-candy, but X-Plane is very VRAM-intensive.

 

I have MSI ge60 with 850m (overclocked to 860m level) and i7 4710, is there any way to get trial version of Prepar3D? I would love to try it, but I don't want to commit to something I may not like, I could post the results for you as well. Also what's academic license, is that for teachers only, or also students?

 

There is no trial version unfortunately. Only thing that comes close is to get a subscription for a single month.
Academic license should be also available for students as well.
Anyway, I've decided to build a desktop, so I have no more interest in knowing how well 860m performs in P3D.
Thanks for everyone who responded to my question!