AMD 7970m vs GTX 680m

where did you buy it from? did you just buy the card alone?

 

ok so if anyones interested, the highest thermal conductivity pads i could find at the moment are the Phobya Thermal Pads XT with 7W/mk. they sell on ebay and amazon for around 5-20€, depending on how much u need. Thickness ranges from 0.5mm to 1.5mm, whereas 1mm should serve our purposes perfectly i think.

as for the thermal paste, ive had quite the low temps on my 485M using ICD. compared it with OCZ Freeze, and although the differences werent that large, it was still like 1 degree cooler with ICD, so i guess im just gonna stick with it

static discharges arent really that big a deal, i just make sure that i grounded myself properly beforehand by touching any kinda metal object, e.g. my CD rack ^^

 

^^ jaybee, the 7w/mk phobya pads are like working with concrete. Its probably better going with the 5w/mk phobya pads which are a tad softer

 

ive seen that the spec sheets mentioned them to be about a fifth harder than the 5W/mk pads, but is it really that big a difference in real life, expecially when it comes to handling?? :/ dont they turn softer once they get warmed up? ^^

 

what is the desktop equivalent of 7970m?

 

I was actually gonna try the Dell 7970m in my 150HM but by the sound of it, that might not be a good idea :{
Would it hurt if the shutdown happen ? Will have to find out anyway

 

7870

Pretty sure we can reach the desktop 7870 stock clocks with a simple overclock, when we are able to.

 

I'd go 5w, but since they are very inexpensive on ebay, you can try the 7w pads . Worse case, you reorder the 5w pads

nothing bad happens, the computer just shuts down. The EC just gets a false temp reading and shuts the computer down

 

Slick, same thing was happening to my 7970m before it died, it maybe also a faulty component right? I mean same stuff was happening, click hwinfo sensors, and I lose display.. btw I am shipping first thing tomorrow to Table

 

As said above the EC doesnt properly read the Dell cards in Clevos and thinks the card is burning up so it shuts the whole thing down. This has already been tested sadly...

 

Ya, like heavencry said...it only affects Dell cards installed on Clevo laptops.

Crossing fingers for you

 

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

Do you think this the vantage score for a 680m:
XMG P702 PRO 3820QM 8192 MB 23599

 

^^ WTH is that??? seriously, I guess a mistake?

 

guys, do you know if there is a built in bench for metro 2033?

I've just installed the game and played through the first 20 mins

The game is completely fluid @ 1920x1080, VERY HIGH, AAA, DX 10...fraps is showing me anywhere from 40-80 fps, but i would love to get a standardized number that others can run and compare with

This is amazing in itself...the last time i played Metro 2033, it was on an ASUS g73 with GTX 460 overclocked to gtx 560 speeds...and i was barely able to have it playable at 1440x900

 

Could be, that laptop is supposed to have a 680m as an option soon, could be they are testing it and somehow notebookcheck got it mixed up as a 670m.

 

Bump that up to DX11 with the DX11 features on, the lower modes tend to be pretty easy in Metro (so DX9/10) it is DX11 with the extra features that really makes it drag, probably because it is a poorly optimized engine.

EDIT: My install doesn't have that benchmark. I just checked performance at the menu, since it is a rendered menu and uses most of the effects. I took a screenshot, running 1080p, Very High settings, AAA, DX11 with tess on but DOF off (since I really hate the mass blur effect). 34 FPS on the menu, I actually get higher in-game most of the time, only scenes with lots of characters and lighting drop it into the 30's. If your willing I would be interested to know what the 7970m gets with the same settings just on the menu.

 

GUYS...the beast is overclocked...i finally figured out how!!!!! :

http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-m17x/659743-omg-beast-overclocked.html#post8478906

 

Wholly Smokes man WOW!!! This is gonna be EPIC!!!

Let the BENCHOLYMPICS begin!

Cheers.

 

YES!!! Chief! Its gonna be Epic indeed!

Here's a sample:

AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2820QM Processor,Alienware M17xR3 score: P6994 3DMarks

 

insane, ridiculous, fun

 

A vantage run...

AMD Radeon HD 7970M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2820QM Processor,Alienware M17xR3 score: P22155 3DMarks

 

It could also be sli gtx670m right?

 

1GHZ ON CORE!? OH YEAH!!

http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...enchmark-thread-part-4-a-271.html#post8482353

 

Who knows when notebookcheck.net will presents FPS results of 7970M?

 

Excellent job GEO! Pushing your laptop to its limits as usual!

Here is a small furmark run @950/1325

Notice the 60fps avg

 

can not believe how much powerfull 7970m..cant wait for mine to arive!!!!

 

if gaming i think hd is better than gtx!

 

You're too good to us SlickDude80 and co.

I've been an Nvidia fanboy since the Go 7950 GTX but now I may have to purchasse my second AMD GPU (previous 5870 owner).

p.s. Notebookcheck reports the 7970M As bveing a 100W GPU.

To wait or not to wait...

 

If you have time & extra money - wait for 680M .

 

not to wait!!! get it now and enjoy a MINIMUM of 6 months bleeding edge mobile gpu perf (until the 680m comes out with same perf and double price,then enjoy even more )

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We are approaching desktop GTX 580 performance in a laptop!! SICK SICK SICK

Thnx bro, its been a fun ride


BTW, I've added an overclocking guide to my 7970m install guide (found in my sig). This will be applicable to all laptops, Clevo, Dell, MSI...whoever
. Preliminary tests show the 7970m's stable upper limit on stock voltage is 1ghz core/1.4ghz vram
AND

Something else to keep in mind. All these results are with ZERO Driver support, and ZERO app support lol...Exciting times guys, exciting times

 

I can't wait the 18th May when my Racer 2.0 will be improved with 7970M instead of 675M

 

Come on now. It won`t be 6 months until Nvidia is releasing their GTX 680M. GTX 660 Ti is out in about 11 days. I think that is our 680M. Reducing the clocks and undervolting it to fit to a 100W mobile GPU will be easy piecy since its a 150W, just like the 7870 was a 145W and they reduced it to 100W to make the 7970M

And the whole cycle with 5% better Nvidia GPUs start all over again. I can swear they internally have some sort of sacred rules: Never outperform each other more than a few percent. lol
Or they are both "stuck" and doesn`t have any headroom to work with to gain lead over the competition. I find it quite boring to be honest

 

I wish Clevo's resellers would let us know if they can get Enduro working? Why aren't there any drivers or anything yet this card was already released... At least to them..

 

In the desktop market, those rules don't apply. In the mobile market they are both limited by the competitor's products and a certain TDP limit.

If both their current high end offerings are neck to neck, don't doubt the same will happen for mobile where it's much more difficult to fit a certain limit in physical size and powe drawn/dissipated.

So yeah I do fully expect a small performance difference between both GPUs. Hell, seeing what the HD7970m overclocked can do, It won't matter which vendor you went for... insane speed

 

Yep I agree, with the heat headroom we have in notebooks there isn`t much room for fancy moves.
Really boring. But then again, there isn`t much difference between 680 and 7970 either. Lets hope some of them ditch silicon all of a sudden and switch to something better. Just out of nowhere

Yeah I saw the 7970M OCed scores. I still don`t trust the synthetic benchmarks though so I take it with a grain of salt. I will only conclude when I see a real review of the 7970M, with FPS scores, heat, noise and everything.
But we know atleast that the 7970M is a beast

 

Look at 7870 desktop benchies to see.

 

Check out the link below

CPU overclocked to 4.5ghz, 7970m OC'ed to 1.02ghz core / 1.55 ghz vram

This has to be the fastest single GPU, air-cooled laptop on the planet as of right now...and i sit back like a proud papa and watch:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/ali...enchmark-thread-part-4-a-271.html#post8482353

 

How much battery life are we looking at with these specs??

15.6" Full HD (1920x1080) Glossy 95% NTSC Color Gamut LED Backlit LCD
Intel Core i7-3720QM 2.6GHz, 6M L3 Cache, 22nm, DDR3-1600MHz, Quad-Core Mobile Processor
8GB (2 x 4GB) , PC3-12800, 1600MHz SODIMM
Intel HD3000/HD4000 Graphics AND AMD 7970M 2048MB GDDR5 DX11 Video Card

 

with enduro enabled id say anywhere in the realm of 4-6 hours,tops

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Twelve pages, and we still know zilch about the GTX 680M. Impressive.

 

well we know that the 670 and 660 ti are going to use harvested cores of the gk104...

someone in another forum gave me this:
GTX 680 = 8 clusters 1536 Cuda Cores 256 bit bus 2GB vram
GTX 670 = 7 clusters 1334 Cuda Cores 256 bit bus 2GB vram
GTX 660 Ti = 6 clusters 1152 Cuda Cores 192 bit bus 1.5GB vram 1 6-pin power connector

 

I'm betting on downclocked 660ti since the 580m was a downclocked 560ti.

 

In the preliminaries we were told that it's to be a 256-bit card, so that would point directly towards it being a GTX 670 derivative, which is something I predicted a while ago.

 

Problem is that the 670 is a 180W while 660 Ti is 150W. 80W down to fit the 680M is a lot no?
http://videocardz.com/32476/geforce-gtx-660-ti-and-gtx-670-specification-leaked

They can always increase the memory frequency to make up for the 192 bit hence giving the same width as 256bit.

 

Nvidia has never been afraid to create in-between solutions for its mobile designs.

I believe that they will use a 256-bit GK104 part, but with less shader clusters and texture units enabled, plus at lower clocks. Remember, the one (falsely?) rumored 680M had 768 CUDA cores and the 256-bit bus. That may not have been as far from the truth as we thought....

The original rumor 600M rumor list has panned out as exact, so far:



And that's from way back, when we still thought 675M and 670M were Kepler.

 

You guys can't be serious
GTX 680m can not be downclocked 660 because that would make it weaker than 7970m which performs at desktop 580 level easily at stock speed, 660 ti is not even a 256bit card

It have to be a downclocked 670 to compete with 7970m

 

why is there zero driver support from AMD? Usually drivers are chucked out in advance...

I think Nvidia don:t care too much about the mobile sector as they make more money making GPUs for desktops however this might be a mistake as gaming laptops become more popular. Learning that the card the 680M "might" be derived off hasn t actually been released yet is a bit of a joke considering the 7970M is a week from officially launching!

Perhaps the 680M will be a 660ti with 2GB GDDR5 memory, 256bit bus but downclocked to fit thermal requirements. I agree with cloudfire they could also OC the 192bit bus but that might be counterproductive to just sticking with higher memory bus width and lower clocks.

 

The 7870 is slightly slower than the 580, from what I can see, and the 7970M is 15% downclocked from that so your statement is not correct.