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    AMD releases HD 7000M - mobile 7700M/7800M/7900M series

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by yknyong1, Mar 28, 2012.

  1. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    I'm talking about this part: "complete failure at life" <-- too extreme.

    The 50% increase is still legendary for a mobile part.
     
  2. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    Be gentle dude. You don't want to break it before you get enough real life FPS numbers. :p
     
  3. AlwaysSearching

    AlwaysSearching Notebook Evangelist

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    Why? If you want to show a comparison on return on investment
    and the amounts are in the thousands do you start at 0 as well?

    The point of a bar graph is to show the difference not display how
    much is the same.
     
  4. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    Its funny how a GPU can bring out the real nature of some people:

    butt hurt, clueless moron (I get that you played with my title but I think you meant it :)), fail at life. Atleast we know where you stand now.

    We will see how the 7970M stand against previous generation when Anandtech is done with their review on M17x, but I just quoted what they said in the article. Maybe you should go and post personal attacks on their commentary field under the article and see if the author respond to you...
     
  5. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

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    Well yeah, you insulted my baby. It's not even here yet and we have people talking crap about it. :(

    I just thought your user title was funny though. No offense ever intended.
     
  6. gdansk

    gdansk Notebook Deity

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    Apparently AMD is enabling PowerTune on these new mobile parts, which should be somewhat equivalent to dynamic downclocking. I doubt they'll have "turboclocking", as this isn't present in desktop GCN.

    From Anandtech:
    In other news, I cannot wait to see a 13-14" with a 77x0M.
     
  7. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    I have no idea how nvidia will beat 7970m, 23k vantage :eek: ridiculous :D
     
  8. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

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    That's 23k at stock... imagine what you can achieve with an overclock. :eek:
     
  9. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    I said 45% performance increase over 6990M. I don`t see that as an insult really. I think thats amazing. That is about how much 7870 gained over 6870 ;)

    My title is just a backup incase I say something really stupid. :p
     
  10. PaKii94

    PaKii94 Notebook Virtuoso

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    ah well downclocking is more important for me anyway savin battery life....if i was ever to game on battery
     
  11. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    guys no need to get serious please, we are all friends here, Geo is a gem of a person but he talks direct every once in a while (everybody's joke style is different) seriously he is one of the best people out there and a ton of our fellow forum members will back him up no matter what :)

    also Cloudfire is an important beloved contributor to this forum, I really don't see the point of arguing :)

    anyway 7970m will be a beast and we will see soon enough, with a ton of more other examples..
     
  12. SlickDude80

    SlickDude80 Notebook Prophet

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    ya, i'm actually starting to get sick and tired of defending my posts.

    Way too much disbelief out there. Someone on the m15x forums even accused me of faking the screenshots???

    I think i'm done with all this. I'll let the other members woo and awe about their performance once they get the 7970's. There will be a bunch more examples for sure
     
  13. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    yeah Slick, unfortunately some people made you the Galileo of 28nm...

    they will understand they were wrong soon enough..
     
  14. SkittlesXD

    SkittlesXD Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks for all your time and effort. I do have one more question about the 7970M though, can it make me sandwiches? Potential deal breaker if it doesn't :p
     
  15. SlickDragon

    SlickDragon Notebook Consultant

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    Hmm sadly the vile propaganda and hate aimed at the Mobile King 7970m isn't quite over yet. Biased Intel Grunts like Anandtech aren't helping the matter with their skewed "analysis", and unfortunately they seem to have blinded even some venerated NBR members with their smog of half truths.

    Now that we finally have surpassed Desktops in both Cpu (2920xm/2960xm/3920xm/3960xm>2600k/2500k) and Gpu's (True Elite 7970m>560ti, 570, and even 580 (680 is irrelevant since its a collectors item and isnt available for purchase anywhere), it would seem that Deluded Desktop Elitists are also going berserk with the realization that their archaic and antique towering monstrosities have been outclassed in every way. We are witnessing their raving screeches of delirium, as they wildly lash out with a verbal assault against our Unparalleled and Unmatched Mobile King 7970m, and their disgruntlement has crossed over to their lost battle on the mobile cpu front, where they on and off claim that a desktop SB at the same frequency as a mobile SB must be intrinsically better, because..... because... ehhh because its a desktop??
    At about this point they scurry away and madly caress their behemoth stationary towers, whispering murmurs of consolation and ever lasting love for their inferior, outdated, overrated, and ultimately doomed machinations.

    Take note that this is NOTEBOOKreview, and we dont take kindly to Deranged Desktop Supremacists, so make yourself scarce and perhaps vacate to Desktopreview or wherever your kind frequent.
     
  16. ryzeki

    ryzeki Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    Hahahahaha people still think laptops away miles behind desktop in performance? Damm.

    Hell even my old 920xm can still hold its own :) and there are a world of benches between dekstop and mobile parts... Hell I think the stock 2920xm was already spanking some Core i5 2500ks in some benches.

    7970m is a beast, and games are already showing it's prowress. thanks for all the info so far Slick and I look forward for more input, Geo!

    I remember this was a similar case for me when I had a GTX260m and I went for the HD5870m. I was skeptical at first because well my card was already powerful and all sites said like 20-30% performance increase. And BAM it was like 50% increase.

    The battlefield 3 example reminded me of this, as I was using Bad Company 2 for the same reason, showing my increase in performance.

    Anyways I want to get my hands on one of these monsters and start testing myself...
     
  17. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    Dude just relax, ntrain is like that, he lives in a bubble and so forth
     
  18. mtrein

    mtrein Notebook Consultant

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    Whatever happened to the 660

    I guess it is "old tech" already :rolleyes:
     
  19. PaKii94

    PaKii94 Notebook Virtuoso

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    the 660m is just a higher clocked 650m :| and apparently its 75w so most of the benefits are negated
     
  20. TwinTurbo

    TwinTurbo Notebook Consultant

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    I laughed! :D

    P.S. Ivy Bridge sure was an amazing advancement over Sandy Bridge! SB is now obsolete!
     
  21. PaKii94

    PaKii94 Notebook Virtuoso

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    and i laughed at that :laugh: but noone was expecting it to be amazing... the igpu did improve quite a bit tho
     
  22. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    At this point, I think it's that the 7970M's performance has pretty much overshadowed everything.
     
  23. pterodactilo

    pterodactilo Notebook Consultant

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    What about 7800M? Are there any benchmarks ? 7000M series from AMD looks quite promising. Nvidia will have a lot of competition.
     
  24. TheBluePill

    TheBluePill Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I think i saw some floating around. The Anantech Article if im not mistaken.
     
  25. SlickDude80

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    i'm working on my 7970m install guide... i just want to give you guys a teaser pic

    Its the 7970m and 6990m side by side

    THe 7970m is on the left (blue pcb) and the 6990m is on the right (brown pcb)

    :)
     
  26. TheBluePill

    TheBluePill Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    OK! Everyone Look at this for 30 Seconds!


    [​IMG]


    OK.. Now that everyone has lowered their Blood Pressure by 400psi, lets get back to business.

    I would like to see some solid 7970M Xfire, 7970M and 7770M numbers for the latest games on a real system. Can someone oblige?
     
  27. whitrzac

    whitrzac The orange end is cold...

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    It's not even 2x as fast... It's 50% faster...
     
  28. TheBluePill

    TheBluePill Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Yeah.. the truncation of the chart is a bit deceptive. However, a 50% increase, watt-for-watt is something that is unbelievable. I can't wait to see how it scales in CF.
     
  29. PaKii94

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    lol might as well include the 78xxms :p
     
  30. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    Slick, why there is a lot of thermal material around the die of your 6990m?? You don't need to clean those???
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Not if you use inert thermal material.
     
  32. ryzeki

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    HD7870m seems to be slightly higher, at stock, than my heavily overclocked 910/1100 HD5870m. That's good. But I would have prefered more haha. It's basically near a stock GTX570m right? I wonder how good these will overclock.

    A small overclock of the HD7870m will easily reach the HD6970m terrain. that kinda sucks, because I expected HD7870m to be already on the HD6970m levels :(

    At any rate, maybe they will introduce later an overclocked version of those chips to fight back. There is a huge gap between HD7870m and HD7950m unless they come up with an HD7930/HD7890m card.

    They can make the HD7950m be an underclocked HD7970m, and then the HD7930/HD7890 be a 1024sp version.
     
  33. AlwaysSearching

    AlwaysSearching Notebook Evangelist

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    Well I appreciate all the time you have put into this. You have patiently
    answered just about everyone's questions.

    Convinced me enough to wait and get a 7970 ( how bad would I feel now
    if I had ordered a 675 last week ).

    When can we expect the 7990 reviews :D
     
  34. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    7870M about 15%-ish faster than GTX 660M. I think it beats the TDP of GTX 660M too but not shure about how much :)
     
  35. SlickDude80

    SlickDude80 Notebook Prophet

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    That material was left over from the dell paste job...they put so much on. I just never cleaned it. i cleaned the die when i repasted, but before i sell the 6990m, i'm going to have to remove that stuff...carefully

    lol...well, then it was all worth it :)
     
  36. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    I was guessing that it should be be in the middle of the 660m and the 670m, given how the gcn arch is and the performance of the 7770 it should be around that.

    The great thing is that the tdp of the 7770 is already lower than 75w, that is one great thing for thin and light notebooks, capable of sporting such power would be one hell of a deal
     
  37. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    Now they have Optimus too, switching to IGP on the fly. It`s called Enduro :cool:
    Its ON Nvidia...:tongue:

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  38. R3d

    R3d Notebook Virtuoso

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    Hm, I liked BACON better. :cool:
     
  39. Botsu

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    Yea and it'd better be, I don't know what you're expecting but there's no way a 75W GPU would fit in an ultrabook withoult melting everything.
    If I had to guess I'd expect 7870M to have a TDP between GT 650M and GTX 660M (and perf slightly above the latter) while the 7770M would have a TDP ~GT640M (while again performing better). The Cape Verde desktop chips have a very low TDP so with binning and heavy downclocking I'd expect these mobile parts to have a TDP low enough to fit in many form factors.
     
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    the 77xxms amd is marketing toward "ultrathins" even tho there arent minimum reqs for them i think they will fall with the intel ultrabook catagory
     
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    Maybe this question has already be answered, but can't find it :s
    Where did you purchase this 7970m ? Really want to buy one, but can't find it anywhere :s
     
  42. nissangtr786

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    AMD Radeon HD 7770M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

    Wow 7770m is 32w according to notebookcheck but I expect it to be 35 but look at the performance. Its crazy 10468 vantage score 2417 3dmark11. Now that is crazy for a supposed 32w card.
     
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    Now if only there were manufacturers kind enough to opt for AMD... but they all seem hell-bent for nvidia :mad:
     
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    7870m at 45w? Does anyone know any upcoming laptops with a 7870m? or any slim 15" or bulky 14" (m14x size) chassis that would work with this MXM? This card looks to be the sweet spot for the price/performance/notebook size that I'm looking for.
     
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    I want a mxm 3.0a module with 7870M !
     
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    Although his absence creates a huge gap with the other proposed solutions, they are expected to be most interesting with a consumption level best suited to a maximum of phones. All Radeon HD 7800M and 7700M are GPU-based and Cape Verde. The Radeon HD 7870M and 7850M are equivalent to a desktop Radeon HD 7770 respectively strongly and very significantly under-clocked to reflect in a TDP of 35 to 45W. It's the same for the Radeon HD 7770M and 7750M except this time they are equivalent to a Radeon HD 7750 more or less under-clocked this time with a TDP between 25 and 35W.
     
  49. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    I mean first time I was removing it I was not too careful, then I got arcticlean and now it just dissolves into it, crazy easy to remove, but the bins around that area are scary to clean yeah. Can I dmg the card cleaning that area?
     
  50. Karamazovmm

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    the tdp of the 7770 is lower than 75w, so whats your point? the tdp of the 660m is already 75w...

    Since the 7870m is a downclocked 7770 and the 7770m is a downclocked 7750, both are going to be able to be incorporated in smaller designs.
     
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