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    AMD releases HD 7000M - mobile 7700M/7800M/7900M series

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by yknyong1, Mar 28, 2012.

  1. Fat Dragon

    Fat Dragon Just this guy, you know?

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    Yes, the point of a bar graph is to show the difference, but the difference is initially perceived by seeing how much is the same. Our brains process the image before we see the actual numbers that indicate the scale of the graph. A comparative bar graph that goes from 0.8 to 1.9 is like a pie chart that adds up to 70% of the total being charted - the image doesn't match the information. Believe me, the AMD performance charts are set up to intentionally mislead people into perceiving the performance difference as being greater than it is. There's nothing inherently wrong with that - it's just marketing - but there you go.
     
  2. nissangtr786

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    MSI GE60 and GE70 Gaming Laptops Launched - Softpedia

    Interesting gt650m scores 10000+ on vantage like the 7770m AMD Radeon HD 7770M - Notebookcheck.net Tech

    The 7770m at 32w ish according to notebookcheck and 35w/25w on this link:
    Google Translate

    Looks like I am getting a 7770m now over a gt650. A 7770m would be perfect. My gpu only scores around 1400 ish on vantage I believe so 4 years later a 32w card 10468 which is crazy. I knew it would be perfect waiting, now I need to find a good deal. :D

    If I can get 3612qm with 4gb ram 750gb hdd 7770m with 1080p screen and blu ray for £450-£500 I will be happy.
     
  3. Raficoo

    Raficoo Notebook Guru

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    damn... looks pretty awesome if it's true, hmm how much is the GT 650m's TDP anyways?
     
  4. SlickDude80

    SlickDude80 Notebook Prophet

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    ya grazt, becareful cleaning that stuff around the gpu die
     
  5. awakeN

    awakeN Notebook Deity

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    R3d Notebook Virtuoso

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    45w, according to Dell.
     
  7. Kevin

    Kevin Egregious

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    Looking over 3DMark11 GPU scores, the 7870M's is only 10% slower than the 6970M and GTX 485M.

    That makes sense, as the 7770 is around the speed of the 6850.

    That's pretty amazing efficiency vs the 6970M, as the 7870M is consuming exactly half as much power.
     
  8. plancy

    plancy Notebook Evangelist

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    I can't wait :D.
     
  9. TrantaLocked

    TrantaLocked Notebook Deity

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    I love how the 7970M is on the heels of the the GTX 580 DESKTOP part. Definitely going to be a revolution in laptop gaming. Whoever is crossfiring the 7970M will have one beast laptop.
     
  10. SlickDude80

    SlickDude80 Notebook Prophet

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    ^^^ oh boy, don't tempt me lol
     
  11. Augmented

    Augmented Notebook Consultant

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    :eek: My 6990M is pulling it's crown over it's eyes.
     
  12. TrantaLocked

    TrantaLocked Notebook Deity

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    What, does the MX17 have two GPU slots?
     
  13. SlickDude80

    SlickDude80 Notebook Prophet

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    the m17x R2 has 2 GPU slots...not the R3 which is my version.

    I was tempted to get a cheap used R2 and fitting it with a couple of 7970's.
     
  14. TrantaLocked

    TrantaLocked Notebook Deity

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    For now probably not worth it (unless you got $). I'd say the 7970M lasts 4 years with the latest games (at playable frame rates), and by then the next big thing will be way past the 7000 series.
     
  15. diggersan

    diggersan Notebook Enthusiast

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    dude who in their right mind would be buying a laptop this week, just wait for Ivy Bridge and this new 7970 and you would have a beast of a laptop. These are exciting times to be in the market for a new laptop. I have a ASUS G1 series that has a Geforce Go 7700 which according to Notebookcheck is a Class 4 which basically means all games today are unplayable on this laptop. It's been 5 years, I think its about time for an upgrade in about a month. Woot Woot go AMD, job well done.
     
  16. Augmented

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    At a hefty price, of course. For those with a swollen budget, waiting would be wise, yes.
     
  17. diggersan

    diggersan Notebook Enthusiast

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    laptops have def come down a bit in price, when my asus first came out it was 1800 bucks, now looks like you can get a beast for like 1700. It's nice to see the price coming down on something in this economy.
     
  18. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    Some more +5k 3dmark11 results on 7970m, I guess proving Slick's point ;)

    everything is TOTALLY STOCK, to the point that my damn 2920xm throttled in the middle of it (I hate the heat this thing produces...)

    tomorrow we will have 2 more people ;)
     
  19. GeoCake

    GeoCake http://ted.ph

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    Congrats. ;) Shame about the XM, that beast needs to be tamed.

    It's today if UPS are kind enough to read and adhere to my special note I am leaving at the door. :p
     
  20. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    Don't shout too much man, Widezu knows where you live :D
     
  21. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Unless you know how to shop that is.
     
  22. JunkStory

    JunkStory Notebook Consultant

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    Will the 7700M fit in thin ivy bridge ultrabooks?
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Strictly speaking I don't think intel's specs allow for a dedicated GPU, but there should be thin designs with it.
     
  24. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    Summarised specs from AMD page, 7750M spec looks promising for Ultrabook/Ultrathins... Who would have imagined gaming on a thin notebook 1 year ago?
     
  25. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    I have a problem. I think 7970M with 100W is too much and the 7870M with 10%ish less performance than 570M is too low.

    What now?
     
  26. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    7950M is your best bet at ~70W?
     
  27. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    Yeah I agree that would have been perfect although I am not shure if AMD is ever going to make it. :(
    Nvidia is in total absent too with the high end so I am really stuck here right now. I was hoping for a GPU from AMD along with the 7970M announcement that was 580M performance +10% maybe with the 70W ish.
     
  28. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    NVIDIA woes will not be solved so soon... So pray hard. What are you using now?
     
  29. core²

    core² Notebook Consultant

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    Hi guys... as you can see this is my first post on this forum :) I've been following this thread for a long time now and i just wanted to thank you guys for the good work and information you've been giving! Thanks to you I didn't hop on the 675m train and will get a 7970m now for sure :)
    as my current asus laptop is 4years!! old and i'm still running with 3650m gpu and centrino 2 cpu i think the new system will blow me away :)
    I'm currently thinking of getting the Schenker XMG P502 Notebook but they haven't released a lot of info on the 7970m until now. You guys think the 3720QM is a good cpu for the 7970m or is the 3610QM sufficient ? furthermore i'm thinking of getting 16gb ram (i guess thats too much hm?) and an 256gb Samsung SSD with an external 1TB storage. what you guys think of this setup? I know this is the 7970m thread but i've been following only this one and i guess the experts of custom notebooks are all gathered here ;-)
    And again, thanks for the great work. i would have kicked myself for finding this thread after buying an 670m oder 675m :)

    cheers, core
     
  30. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    i7 720QM and GT240M right now. Do I need a replacement pretty bad? YES :p
    Haven`t played Skyrim yet nor will I be able to play Diablo 3 with satisfying settings either. And Bioshock is also coming soon. Argh :p

    @Core:
    The 3610QM is good enough for any game you want to play. You will get some extra FPS in CPU dependent games though with the 3720QM since its 300MHz faster. 16GB is total overkill but RAM is cheap anyways so why not. You may experience slightly more responsive system since your computer will cache more on to your fast RAM instead of reading through your SSD/HDD.
    You did a wise choice of skipping the 675M since the 7970M is much better. It may even be 20W cooler than 675M too :)
     
  31. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    I'm on i7-820QM and GT 335M, not better off either... Just hope... ;)
     
  32. awakeN

    awakeN Notebook Deity

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    lololo im trying to game on a macbook

    that usually indicates i need a better computer
     
  33. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    Right now it seems only HD 7970M is released to public...?
     
  34. core²

    core² Notebook Consultant

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    is there a difference between "HD 7970M" and "7970M" ?
    thought they are the same :/
     
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    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Every card since the 2000 series has been "HD" so some people drop the prefix as its assumed.
     
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    Good news! It seems Trinity is actually a decent improvement on Llano :)
     
  38. moviemarketing

    moviemarketing Milk Drinker

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    Interesting, so an A10-4600M (integrated 7660G) paired with a 7970m in crossfire would be beastly, probably blowing away any Ivy Bridge CPU paired with 7970m, no? Finally there is a reason to get a laptop with AMD CPU.
     
  39. DarkSiren

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    Seriously wish they would already release a benchmark on 7970m crossfire
     
  40. KCETech1

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    in one of the 7970 threads I believe Slickdude80 had an unofficial from a user with an m18x with about 12K 3dmark and 40,031 in vantage.

    wait a couple more days for screenshots im guessing ,as 5600/20,000 are easy at stock with hacked together drivers for a SINGLE card
     
  41. moviemarketing

    moviemarketing Milk Drinker

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    But was that with an AMD CPU using integrated graphics in crossfire or dual 7970m's?

    I don't think I will ever get a laptop large enough to hold two discrete GPUs, but I'm hoping there will be a lot of smaller form factor laptops with quad core trinity CPU (with integrated 7660G) that are crossfire paired with 7900m/7800m/7700m GPUs.
     
  42. KCETech1

    KCETech1 Notebook Prophet

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    dual 7970's not a hybrid crossfire. the m18x does not have an AMD CPU option
     
  43. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    the problem with the asymmetric crossfire is that it works by not improving a lot, and you lose cpu power in the process. Its a valid approach, but the non dedicated ram, really bottlenecks the performance, thus its quite valid to get higher speed ram for that, its valid for intel and amd
     
  44. R3d

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    Probably not. The performance difference from those two chips would be so great that the penalty from running crossfire would probably outweigh any performance gains.
     
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    Does anyone know of any upcoming laptops that support both Trinity and 7970m?
     
  46. moviemarketing

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    I'm not aware of anything that has been announced yet.

    Most of the higher end gaming laptops seem to be limited to Sandy/Ivy Bridge. Perhaps there will be an updated dv6z with 7700m/7800m series.
     
  47. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    That and I think Trinity may bottleneck 7970M to some extent.
     
  48. PaKii94

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    yeah trinity is still not up to par with intel i core processors but its getting there I wonder if they fixed up the microstuttering issue of the hybrid xf
     
  49. moviemarketing

    moviemarketing Milk Drinker

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    Even with hybrid crossfire?

    According to Anandtech the Trinity non-ULV mobile processors should be on a par with mobile Sandy Bridge.

     
  50. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    AMD's numbers... possibly really 10% and 40% in real world.
     
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