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    AMD releases HD 7000M - mobile 7700M/7800M/7900M series

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by yknyong1, Mar 28, 2012.

  1. dwalk321

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    Given the performance gains of the 7970m over the 675, Power Notebooks' price seems pretty reasonable.
     
    dwalk321, Apr 22, 2012
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  2. Kevin

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    You guys need to keep in mind that Dell and Clevo have always priced the cards differently.

    The only difference is how much is being charged for the 675M. With the GTX 580M, Dell was always charging a couple hundred more than Clevo, so if their 675M is also more expensive, it deceptively makes the 7970M look cheaper.

    Regardless, both companies are charging the same $200 premium for the 7970M, over the base GPU, so neither is charging more or less.
     
    Kevin, Apr 22, 2012
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    Huh? AW only charges more for nvidia cards?
     
    AlwaysSearching, Apr 22, 2012
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  4. yknyong1

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    yknyong1, Apr 23, 2012
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    moviemarketing, Apr 23, 2012
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    Will resellers be upping the prices on the 7970M? I am afraid to wait to buy.
     
    TrantaLocked, Apr 23, 2012
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    I'm definitely going for it after seeing the benchmarks.... if they're real :p
     
    plancy, Apr 24, 2012
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    KCETech1, Apr 24, 2012
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    Pretty good lineup, although the difference between the 7800M and 7900M is quite big.

    7700M 512sp @ 675mhz (core) /1000mhz (128 bit mem)
    7800M 640sp @ 800mhz (core) /1000mhz (128 bit mem)
    7900M 1280sp @ 850mhz (core) /1200mhz (256 bit mem)
    All GDDR5

    What do you think of this lineup?
     
    Devenox, Apr 24, 2012
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    We will see extra versions added.

    A lower version of the 7970 and higher versions of the 7700 and 7800.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Apr 24, 2012
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  11. KCETech1

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    after reading all the posts and benchmarks from slickdude80 last night i ordered a 7970 :D
    my opinion IMPRESSIVE
     
    KCETech1, Apr 24, 2012
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    A 7970m is very good and easily beats a 6990m. Another thing is 7750m is 25w :D I am now thinking of getting a 7850m 35w if its cheap as that will allow 1080p 30-60fps on high for most games. This generation of laptops are like the 2008 generation laptops, big boost in performance per watt. I want a 3612qm cpu with an amd 7750m.
     
    nissangtr786, Apr 24, 2012
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    is it confirmed the 7970m is a full 100w?
     
    littleone562, Apr 24, 2012
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    KCETech1, Apr 24, 2012
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    Where did you ordered it? At which price? Because this card seems really interesting
     
    killerofgnom, Apr 24, 2012
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    Thanks (really quick answer btw) 500$ is really good price point when converted into € ^^
     
    killerofgnom, Apr 24, 2012
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    All good so far but while many notebooks have been announced with GK107 Kepler chips none have been with the 7700/7800M.

    It's too bad because they look slightly better on paper.
     
    Botsu, Apr 24, 2012
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  19. KCETech1

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    I suspect there may be a bunch announced the next couple weeks, if not the manufacturers are nuts
     
    KCETech1, Apr 24, 2012
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    7700M = 7750
    7800M = 7770
    7900M = 7870

    Will be interesting to see if the 7870M is as fast as the 6970M.
     
    Kevin, Apr 24, 2012
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    Congratz KC! You'll love it, I'll have an install guide up with a link to working drivers later today on the Alienware M17x Forums

    BTW, i just read the card got a 23K Vantage score on Anandtech...makes my 20k score look low lol

    I can't wait to get some freaking working drivers!!

    Also read somewhere that there is a turbo boost feature that will overclock to 100w...so maybe the tdp is actually less
     
    SlickDude80, Apr 24, 2012
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  22. yknyong1

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    I hope Heihachi88 also post some results. :D
     
    yknyong1, Apr 24, 2012
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  23. Threshold

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    Yes on the former, not really on the latter.

    7000M Series, straight from the horse's mouth.

    7970M 850MHZ core 1200MHZ memory 1280 shaders 2GB GDDR5 256-bit
    7950M nothing yet*
    7870M 800MHZ core 1000MHZ memory 640 shaders 2GB GDDR5 128-bit
    7850M 675MHZ core 1000MHZ memory 640 shaders 2GB GDDR5 128-bit
    7770M 675MHZ core 1000MHZ memory 512 shaders up to 2GB GDDR5 128-bit
    7750M 575MHZ core 1000MHZ memory 512 shaders up to 2GB GDDR5 128-bit
    7730M 575-675MHZ core 900MHZ memory 512 shaders up to 2GB DDR3 128-bit

    *The 7950M will of course be the desktop 7850 downclocked which leads us to a conclusion of ~675MHZ core 1200MHZ memory 1024 shaders 2GB GDDR5 256-bit.
     
    Threshold, Apr 24, 2012
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  24. moviemarketing

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    Anandtech has posted some helpful benchmarks:

    [​IMG]
     
    moviemarketing, Apr 24, 2012
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    [​IMG]

    here is 3dmark11 scores how do they stack up?
     
    PaKii94, Apr 24, 2012
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    [​IMG]

    here is 3dmark11 scores how do they stack up? the 7770m which is suppose to go in ultrathin books is stronger than a gtx560m so = gt 650m? However, i dont think any ultrabooks are going to get gt 650m.... and then th e7870m is right on par with gtx 670m and 6970m (according to 3dmark11 scores) :D
     
    PaKii94, Apr 24, 2012
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  28. yknyong1

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    Wow, near the spectacular performance increase since the 8800M series...

    +rep
     
    yknyong1, Apr 24, 2012
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  29. Joce21

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    7970m = Dual 6970m.

    This is a huge upgrade, I must get these cards!!!! :)
     
    Joce21, Apr 24, 2012
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  30. TheBluePill

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    Bought my M18x about 2 months ago.. so feel like i have a little egg on my face..

    However.. Its pretty cool that i have a real, clear upgrade path for down the road. I figure in a year or less, a 7990M will release too.. so.. for $1K next year, i can pick up a Pair of these and double up!
     
    TheBluePill, Apr 24, 2012
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    i saw that amd is bringing out enduro as a rival to optimus, what about the other nvidia card features? like turboclocking/adaptive downclocking (the thing about not using full power to keep a constant fps in games like 30 or 40), adaptive vsync, and the txaa or fxaa or w/e thats called lol
     
    PaKii94, Apr 24, 2012
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  32. Threshold

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    By a year from now the 8xxx series may be out...

    Just sayin'. Wouldn't want you to get egg on your face twice.
     
    Threshold, Apr 24, 2012
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    nissangtr786, Apr 24, 2012
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  36. yknyong1

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    It should be messed up till Wizzard updates GPU-Z. Great specs, how's the feel so far?
     
    yknyong1, Apr 24, 2012
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    with zero driver support, the card is smoking fast. It allowed me to crank the settings up on games like The Witcher 2, crysis 2 DX11 with high res texture pack, Skyrim etc

    stock clocks...20K vantage, 6k 3dmark11, 60 fps unigine @ 1080p, tess normal, high, high
     
    SlickDude80, Apr 24, 2012
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  38. TheBluePill

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    What were the Xfire 7970M's benching at again?
     
    TheBluePill, Apr 24, 2012
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    I like how they started their scale at .8 instead of zero :)

    Makes it look around 3 times as fast instead of the 2 times it actually is
     
    blink_c, Apr 24, 2012
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    You are right.. that is a bit skewed.

    So.. its a roughly 50% increase from AMD's supplied Benches..
     
    TheBluePill, Apr 24, 2012
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    Well after reading the anandtech "review", it looks like the 7970M ain`t as fast as someone (me included) thought. Benchmarks showed 70%+ performance over 6990M, but real life performance is 45% faster which is amazing. And 7970M is 25% faster than 580M

    If you look at the FPS scores from yknyong its misleading because they tested the 7970M with a very fast desktop CPU, 2600K.

    Here is AMDs own data which show the real performance increase:
     
    Cloudfire, Apr 24, 2012
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  42. GeoCake

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    (Clueless moron)

    My CPU runs faster than a 2600k, and I am sure some laptop Ivy bridge do so too. Moreover, CPU performance does NOT affect gaming in any way.

    We have already seen benchmarks and FPS numbers from SlickDude (who I find very reliable); you must be a complete sausage to not notice how much better this card is.
     
    GeoCake, Apr 24, 2012
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  43. AlwaysSearching

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    If you start it a 1.0x then you don't see the 6990 bar at all.

    This is done all the time so you can get a real visual comparison.
     
    AlwaysSearching, Apr 24, 2012
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  44. yknyong1

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    Ouch, a bit too serious dude. If you need to clarify, do it in a more polite manner. ;)
     
    yknyong1, Apr 24, 2012
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  45. GeoCake

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    Cloudfire edited his post after I posted that, lol, I am only referring to his own user title. ;)

    Anyways, I will bench the living daylight out of this card when I get it tomorrow. A few other forum members are getting it today. The problem is that nothing supports the card yet, so this card has way more goodies in store for us.

    It's true that a good CPU will boost benchmark scores, but you cannot cheat ingame benchmarks. Anandtech's numbers are still mindblowing imo
     
    GeoCake, Apr 24, 2012
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    You're the only clueless moron here. Just because you're running the CPU at a higher clock does not mean it outperforms a 2600k. The difference is staggering between the two and in terms of performance, the 2600k is miles ahead. Do some reaserch before you call smarter people dumb.
     
    iViNtaGe, Apr 24, 2012
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    Speaking of clueless :))),

    #1. The FPS are from tests which used a weaker CPU with the 675M, which is why Anandtech say themselves that 2600K get better results. Why would they otherwise?

    #2. Faster CPU gives you a lot more frames in a lot of games. Not all are just GPU bound.

    Maybe you should research a little and think over what you are about to post before spewing like a misguided fanboy?
     
    Cloudfire, Apr 24, 2012
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    You guys don't get it...

    "CLUELESS MORON" is what Cloudfire calls himself in his title lol. Geo is playing on words

    Looking at the theoreticals, i know what this card can do. When we actually get driver support it will fly even more. I'm not worried one bit...the abililty to play bf3 ultra at 60% faster rates says it all. I've seen with my eyes in BF3 Ultra 1080p how much better it is. There is a night and day diff. Right now, the drivers installed on my laptop are slapped together like a balony sandwich

    If you guys are disappointed that the card is ONLY 50% faster in real llife, then we need to chillax a little lol
     
    SlickDude80, Apr 24, 2012
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  49. GeoCake

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    Lol Slick, some people feel butt hurt.

    I meant that clock for clock they are the same. And mine, being overclocked higher than a stock 2600k, will perform better. Nevertheless, the overclock will not bring any extra frames... a higher CPU clock will not give substantially better numbers at all.. -.- that's why a 2630QM is more than enough for gaming purposes. Furthermore, you are underestimating the sheer power of a Sandy Bridge XM chip, the 2600k is not miles ahead, nor is the difference staggering. In fact, I have no idea why you think that. Probs trolling me.

    Also: how am I a fanboy?

    I have owned and used extensively: 6990M, multiple 580Ms, 560M, 5870M, 6870M, and a 675M.. and tomorrow a 7970M. Foo'

    Finally, let's believe everything a website says. Let's not use our heads... :rolleyes:
     
    GeoCake, Apr 24, 2012
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    ? You should start it at 0, not 1.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Apr 24, 2012
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