AMD releases HD 7000M - mobile 7700M/7800M/7900M series

i think the lowest will be 14 in but smaller gaming laptops like the clevo 11in or m11 might have it

 

any idea when they will arrive for laptops? asus might put one of those in that is on par or close to the GTX660M for its N56 series, then i will be getting the N56

 

No news... Prema, any news?

 

Given the current 28nm situation at TSMC, they would rather use broken parts with fused CUs so that full working dies can be shipped as desktop cards and use up as many dies as possible. Shortage...

 

lol this look too unreal for me. The 7750M, a 36W GPU, performing like a 80W 670M? 55% reduction of watt?

Either AMD got some pretty wild magic up their sleeves, or this TechARP (which is where notebookcheck got their specs from) is full of BS.

And 7970M, a 65W GPU, performing like the 680M. Not only have AMD managed to put their flagship where the upcoming 680M is, but apparantly their GCN architecture is beating Kepler by 35W (since 680M is 100W)...

Something smell really fishy here

 

If AMD 7750m can play every game at 1080p on high I will be more then happy. Anyway amd and nvidia look close but amd seems better at performance per watt especially in the high end.

Looks like amd focused on the architecture more on the mobile. I thought those semi-accurate leaks by amd were a joke but now think its real. AMD did it with the 5000m series like the 5850m and stuff like that hardly taking much powerr compared to nvidia and they seem to have done it again.

Now my dream machine is 3612qm with 7750m or gt650m depemding on which wins in performance per watt. One months time and notebookcheck should get theres hands on some of these.

 

Traditionally the HP ENVY series will have better graphics than a Pavilion DV series equivalent... This gen the ENVY 15 has the HD 7750M GDDR5 while the DV6 has a max upgraded GT 650M GDDR5... ???

 

indeed fishy, I don't think it is even possible..

 

Hahahhah AMD/ ATI is "back".

 

cant wait for the amd series please perform at the rumored performanvce

 

Why not?
I think it's possible that Nvidia with all of it's 'buzz' and announcements is (in a certain way) 'setting the standard', so anything that goes beyond that seems rather 'impossible' to many.
Most people will probably look at Nvidia first and AMD second when it comes to GPU's.
Why?
Market buzz and promotion. AMD/ATI have always more or less been associated as 'viable alternatives' to what were considered to be 'leading companies' in the field.

Look at Intel. It's a generation ahead of AMD in terms of cpu power/efficiency.
Why cant AMD be ahead of Nvidia (while being by a generation ahead of Intel in IGP capabilities)?

Ultimately, we won't know anything for certain until the gpu's come out and we can test them ourselves.
BUT, I wouldn't be so quick to discount the possibility that AMD could have beaten Nvidia in the mobile segment in terms of power/efficiency ratio.

Nvidia doesn't have the last word in the gpu field after all.

 

Just wait for the actual product to come out or smuggled through by some dude in China. But it nothing has come out of PAX East so far >.<

 

If the 7750M is the desktop 7770, which is the speed of the desktop 6850, I can see the 7750M challenging the 570M/670M, even with a 30% downclock on the desktop part.

The math adds up.

 

i didnt follow the 5000m series, how much of a performance boost was it compared to similar nvidia parts?

 

Another tidbit of information from the guys that gave us the 680M benches

 

uhh wait is tehre someting else to gain besides the 680m is 100w and 7970m is 65-75

 

What other things is it you had in mind? We don`t know about the performance of 7970M yet, too much rumors floating around

 

oh ok idk what you were getting at before haha. but yeah waiting for the performance :S

 

Use google translate to read first. I will translate some important parts later.

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if 7970m performs 680m around 65w, that is a serious challenge to nvidia, but I still cannot believe it will happen, we'll see it in time, I just hope we get our hands on 680m this summer

 

is it saying it can reach desktop 7870 levels ??

and i cant comprehend the rest ~_~ wanna enlighten us yknyong1?

btw im only really interested int he 7750m and 78xxm cards for the envy

 

Some tidbits from the Chinese source:

7970M Bandwidth is 153.6GB/s, high resolution graphics performance surpasses HD 6990M/ GTX 580M. <--- 384bit bus?

Debate: If 7970M real power consumption is already 60-70W, what about HD 7990M? 100-120W?

According to AMD internal information, current samples of HD 7970M are at 65W-75W, and final production cards can be <70W real world consumption.

7990M and 7970M are derived from HD 7870 and HD 7850 respectively. <--- Doesn't really make sense given HD 7870 die has 1280SP maximum.

7990M and 7970M should have different number of stream processor in addition to clock speed difference so that performance is different. 7990M TDP will approach 100W.

 

find some chinese sources on the 7750m pleaseee

 

man, let's put some sense into it, 7850 has 1024SP, how come 7970m can have 1536? and about 153GB bandwidth, are you really believing into that?? come on that website just bumped crazy numbers as an answer to 680m leak (which is just plain simple awesome and I am sure amd doesn't have squat to compete against it (yet))

 

Nothing... The Chinese guys ain't a single bit interested in 7750M

This one is...
Graphics card in Mid 2012 MBP update - MacRumors Forums

 

lol only the best for them

 

The good thing is if the MBP has the 7750M, then the TDP should be low.

 

i thing the mbp thing is also speculation

 

It's all speculation as AMD is extremely tight-lipped unlike NVIDIA.

 

well atleast we know the envy will have atleast 7730m if not 7750m and more than likely it will be atleast equal to if not better than the gt 650m in the dv6 series

i think the 7730m will be close to gt 650 and 7750m will be close to gtx 660m

 

So.. Monday after PAX.. Anything new?

 

Nope, just as disappointing as CeBIT

In the alienware forum there is a Dell representative who said this. So keep an eye on that post for editing.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/8431440-post553.html

 

Yup its Cebit all over again, a lot of hype for months, then nothing relevant.. What a shocker..

 

Hi

Im no guru on graphics cards, and ive read a lot of pages trying to find info but read lots of different things.
I wanted to but a p170hm with 6990m but ive been told they are out of old stock and i have to wait till end of april for the new model.
So now Im waiting to buy a clevo p170em with ivy bridge and ive been told by the mob who im going to buy it off that the new gtx675m will be more powerful than the 6990m is this true?
and im wondering whether i should wait for the new amd range of gpu like 7970m or 7990m? they will obviously be more expensive and we dont know how long they will be?.
Should i just get one with the 675m? and is nvidia better because they have physx and cuda?
Im sure i sound like a complete noob but any help is great!
Thanks

 

if you can wait for the end of summer and break the piggy bank, then wait new GPUs will be a lot better than current gen (675m is not new, it is a rebadge, whoever told you that, lied brother)

 

I really think the manufacturers just don't have anything in-hand to show. The PR Machine for the GPU companies, as well as Intel, have been trying to keep the hype up on products they can't deliver. They missed their launch windows by weeks or months and they are trying to cover as best they can.

675M is only very slightly faster than the 6990M;

Please take a moment to review; http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html

 

There are a myriad of rumours about the upcoming AMD A10 and other Trinity Fusion APU processors, some good, other not so good. The good ones emphasise the very fast HD7000-series integrated GPU as well as the Piledriver-generation cores, a pair of dual core modules, integrated with support for AVX and AES instruction extensions. The bad ones state concerns about TDP vs Ivy Bridge, since Trinity is still on a 32 nm process, as well as possibly slower overall CPU performance than Trinity's currently shipping predecessor, the A8 Llano - which of course could be an embarassment for AMD if it happens.

Most importantly, there will nearly certainly be a low-power ultrathin (i.e. UltraBook in Intel speak) 17W TDP grade Trinity APU with two dual-core modules and proper GPU. Now, depending on the actual CPU and GPU clock speeds delivered in this case, there would be a very interesting outcome here: an AMD based ultrathin could have somewhat higher performance, both CPU and GPU, than an Ivy Bridge dual core 4 thread ultrathin at the same time.



AMD Trinity - Quad core Ultrathin notebook processing within 17W limit? by VR-Zone.com

Quite great news for the college crowd I believe...

 

So no news about the 7970M, eh? darn...

usually AMD releases their high end mobile cards way wayyyy before Nvidia's mobile cards (IIRC, 6990M came 6 months earlier than the 580M) but it looks like that's not the case this year... D:

 

They were released at the same time, late summer 2011.

 

wait, 6990m released after 580m..

 

Im guessing instead of trolling the public with a HD 7970m "paperdragon" AMD is waiting for their 28nm supply to stabilize or something.

 

AMD has been getting better about having some launch day stock. I'm glad they are getting away from the heady days of 2-month waits after the reviewers get their samples.

 

I am considering to wait for 685m, but if 7970m is this crazy (I meam 4.6k 3dmark11 and 70W TDP) its no brainer to switch to amd (even with nvidia's driver superiority)

 

Oh right. Apparently, "announced" isn't the same thing as "released".

 

This time they are both screwed by the wonderful people @ TSMC.

Thats why AMD is also slow this time around

 

yeah TSMC should wrap up the business after this effort... still cannot believe we didn't get 28nm last year..

 

[Rant]
TSMC has been screwing up way too much. 55nm was ok, 40nm transition was bad, 32nm cancelled and 28nm now is appalling. Couple with the fact that TSMC doesn't want to increase 28nm production capacity in order to maintain gross profit margin. Ridiculous.

And Nvidia... Not that much better with that whining when AMD can produce something six months before yours.
[/Rant]

 

well, actually that is a weird thing as the profit from mass production should cover the cost of development.. maybe the profit margin of 28nm is very small? doubt it..

 

Demand supply problem. If quantity demanded of production capacity is high, and the quantity supplied is low, then the price will increase by virtue of shortage. If TSMC increases production capacity, the price will most certainly come down fast as manufacturers get their share of production. The many delays and stops for 28nm production has already caused money opportunities to be lost, so...

 

Nah, it's not artificial, you end up shooting yourself in the foot. It's better for EVERYONE if you are making a high volume of chips.