AMD releases HD 7000M - mobile 7700M/7800M/7900M series

Micah the 7970M costed me more than GTX 675 around 100€, this is not a rumour it's a fact because i've allready paid for my machine on monday April 9th.

Cheers bro

 

If AMD is charging more, then performance will be better in some way.

 

When you do get that laptop you may want to check that you weren't sold an engineering sample 7970M.

 

That would seem to be the case:

7970m
Pipelines 1536 - unified
Core Speed * 800 MHz
Shader Speed * 800 MHz
Memory Speed * 1200 MHz
Memory Bus Width 256 Bit
Memory Type GDDR5
Memory Bandwidth 153.6GB/s
Power Consumption 65-70 Watt
technology 28 nm


675m
Pipelines 384 - unified
Core Speed * 620 MHz
Shader Speed * 1240 MHz
Memory Speed * 1500 MHz
Memory Bus Width 256 Bit
Memory Type GDDR5
Memory Bandwidth 96.0GB/s
Power Consumption 100 Watt
technology 40 nm

 

The concept does not work for a GPU.

 

EDIT: nvm lololo

 

Holy batman 1536 piplelines

 

Yeah if this is true it could be a solid 15-20% more powerful than the 675m, and generate 15-20% less heat [due to 28nm], while consuming 30% less power? 70 w vs. 100w. Man this card could be a complete beast. Also your price is inflated compared to USA prices because of extra 20% VAT and all that. Here it will probably be like $100 more than GTX 675m, so maybe from GTX 670m to AMD 7970m it will be $200, possibly $250. I will save up for this though as this is the most important part of the computer. Totally beast. Since it only consumes 70w could it be used on a P151EM?

 

Maybe we can overvolt it and get even more performance 8-} (i hope to god the rumor is true though)

 

It's used on P150EM

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Yeah I see that; but could it be used on a 120W power supply from the P151EM? Since its 70W isn't it possible? I'm not sure how it all works ha.

I want the P150EM anyways though for the rubberized feel and new keyboard + stronger power supply. Hopefully this card doesn't break the bank and comes out in a few weeks!

 

Power supply is not a big issue as you can replace it easily. It is the support that is key.

 

I see I see. Well either way I'll probably get the P150em so that later I can upgrade to 7990m if I have to Haha. 7970 and IVy should be plenty for my needs for the next 3-4 years though. Throw in a hybrid drive and I'm good. Or even a 500GB HD and 120GB SSD. Either way.... Going to hurt my pockets for a few weeks but its worth it for a few years of fun and work and school on it ;P

 

Like previous generations HD7700M and HD7800M will have to fit in a 30W-55W TDP range to meet the requirements of the notebooks they're designed for.

How is shaving ~15W off a HD6970M level GPU with new arch and a die shrink more unfathomable to you than jacking up the TDP of the mainstream GPU parts by as much as 35W?


It's a no-brainer that Chelsea will be the HD7700M cards, and it's equally obvious that the only 28nm GCN GPU available to use for Chelsea is Cape Verde. With Chelsea set as Cape Verde, if you guess at Wimbledon being Pitcairn what GPU choices are you left with for Heathrow?

The two known versions of the GPUs you're probably thinking of don't work with how AMD's made cards in the past.

 

I was personally thinking

7750/7770M : Cape Verde Pro (512 cores)
7850/7870M : Cape Verde XT (640 cores). Possibly a rebrand of 6950/6970M, like they rebranded the 5850M to 6870M.
7950/7970/7990M : Pitcairn Pro & XT (1024 & 1280 cores)

It doesn't make sense to go with Tahiti chips. Trimming/binning Pitcairn XT to fit in the 100W TDP would result in both cheaper and more powerful chips compared to Tahiti I think. Because Pitcairn is fundamentally a better balanced and more efficient chip.

Furthermore remember that Tahiti is ~350mm² (Pitcairn being 215mm², Barts@6970/6990M being ~240mm² iirc). It would be unusual to say the least and not very consistent with AMD's recent strategy and track record in the mobile high-end.

 

Even the reseller says 1536 shaders..

 

everywhere on the web says 1536, looks like amd has a neat surprise packed for nvidia

 

800mhz + 1536 shaders? Errr No. That's the same core speed as the 7950 which has a 200W TDP.

Why cripple the core down to below 7870 core levels of efficiency, you already lost the memory bandwidth advantage.

 

Yeah lol. The resellers could atleast stick to real facts and not post rumors. That could hit them back in the face pretty hard.
I stick to my previous calculations, around 22% improvement over 6990M and 60-80W. I`m hoping its correct because that is a pretty sweet performance.

 

If we want the sweetest performance then an 750mhz 1280 shader part with 1000mhz 256bit mem would be lovely at 100W and a 675mhz 1024 shader part with 1000mhz 256bit mem at 75W would be nice.

 

exactly! but I still don't get it, everybody believing this techarp straightaway, crazy..

 

hahaha I think we all want to believe it but deep down we all know its not gonna happen

 

If that is true, then we should be pretty concerned on memory bandwidth.

 

1536 shaders and only 65W consumption? Thats more shaders than a 580M SLI o.o

 

nvidia shaders are much more powerful than amd shaders

 

ok well then these numbers im looking at on notebookcheck make more sense now xD

 

Actually it's ROPS.

The 7870 and 7950 have the same ROP count, the 7870 gets close to the 7950 in some cases where the faster clock gives it more ROP power.

Now take the 7950 and hack a 1/3rd of its mem bus off, well you just hacked off a 1/3rd of the ROPs.

So you can either have 32 Rops at 700-800mhz or 24 Rops at 500-600mhz.

I know which I wuld rather have.

Wait a sec, you cant devide the rops by 3, so you cant de-active 128bits of the bus :/

Ah I see, it goes into a crossbar so the ROPs might still be usable.

 

Good news everyone AMD Cuts Prices of HD 7900, 7700 Series, Plus Free Games. Now, hopefully it somehow translates into cheaper 7970M release next month.

 

Now that AMD finally got the competition its been waiting for all year they got to go into a more competitive price range.
Doesent hurt that the bundled games this time doesent suck that much either.

Dont think us mobile users will get much benefit from the bundled games though.

 

Well.. not exactly like that. They simply are different and perform different tasks. And since current kepler runs at 1:1 core and shaders clocks, you see how they approach into similar numbers. Like 1536 cuda cores at a fixed speed are slightly more powerful than 2048 GCN processors at the same speed. Before we would have 1600 stream processors being quite weaker than 512 cuda cores etc, besides clockspeeds.

Then again the GCN cores now perform a wide variety of general purpose processing tasks.

but before, with fermi having massively faster cuda core clocks and AMD's stream processors being much less efficient and effective, yeah it was much more notable how weak a single stream processor was compared to 1 cuda core.

In the end they are very different architectures so they are not exactly comparable as a 1:1 basic between them.

and I want more info on these 7900m cards now. I really want to upgrade.

 

damn they dont sound like theyre having the same TSMC issues NVIDIA is having

 

That would imply that they are not having those problems, as yields are good enough to lower prices and keep stock.

 

I really hope they have no problems because NVIDIA has soured their relationship with TSMC...

 

definitely I was just being simple, and yeah I was comparing Fermi, with Kepler we will forget the term "shader clock", sad

 

the 7970M is up on alienware m17x!

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specs:

1280 shaders (not 1536)
100W (not 70W)
850 Mhz clock
1200 Mhz memory clock
256-bit
153.6 GB/s

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also it says it'll ship out 5/17/12... sorry D3 fans

 

Excellent, it's inline with all the predictions some of us made, and makes total sense in the specs/performance ratio.

except... well I don't know what other sacrifices they might have made, since it essentially has 85% of the core clocks of the reference card HD7870, I would expect more performance than 4000ish in 3dmark11 considering the HD7870 has what... nearly 7k?

 

It should be around 5k, since 7870 scores >6k.

 

We have to call in some favors from our comrades @ desktopreview. Need someone to downclock a 7870 by 150 Mhz and run some benches for us.

 

So since 7970M = 100W, there must be some lower 79xx GPU coming too right?
7950M?

 

Uh yeah, so I'mma go ahead and say that my original predictions of a minimum 40 percent increase in performance vs current gen cards is going to end up as correct.

Holy crap.

 

I'd say it should be even more haha.

Specswise, the rumored specs of the 680m are inferior to the HD7970m... based Desktop comparisons (being a rumored GTX660 vs HD7870). If we go by not-so-accurate numbering, if we assume 1536 cuda cores are similar to 2048 stream processors, the 680m having 768 cores would be figthing a 1024 stream procesor part. This would mean the 680m being rivals with HD7950m, and a 685m fighting the HD7970m?

Just pure speculation based on some desktop specs and rumored mobile specs.

I would expect a 3dmark score of 5400ish, considering the 7k nature of the desktop card. Damm...

if true I could upgrade my old Hd5870m to over 100% performance increase

 

Likely a 7950M @ 75W with more or less the same 15% down clock of a 7850. Mabye just 10% actually, since the 7970M had to shave roughly 40 watts while the 7870 only needs to cut 25 watts.

 

Great to see some confirmed specs - thanks for posting this one!

 

just say it that you liked a lot more now, thats kind of confirmed specs

150mhz off the 7870 will make it one hell of a card

 

Does the desktop 7870 have the same hardware acceleration for partially resident textures as the desktop 7970? Any possibility this will be incorporated in the 7970m/7950m?

AnandTech - AMD Radeon HD 7970 Review: 28nm And Graphics Core Next, Together As One

 

You guys think an m15x will accept a 7970 without too much trouble?

 

PRT appears to be a GCN change, so architecture-wide. In other words, yes; 7750/7770/7850/7870/7950/7970 all have it, and so will any mobile variants thereof.

 

That's great news! +rep

At the moment the only games that would seem to benefit are RAGE and the upcoming DOOM4; however, AMD seems to be gambling that this is going to become much more common.

I imagine if the rumors that the PS4 and Xbox720 will be capable of running games at 4k resolution / 3D 1080p have any truth to them, then doesn't it seem likely that we will see more games using partially resident, high quality textures in 2014 and beyond?

 

Numbers are looking good so i might squeeze some more performance on my Clevo P170HMx.

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Oh, so I was right then...... I would say I would be surprised, but I'm not.

15% behind the 7870.

Thats more powerful than a 6950 desktop card. I was worried they would have to cut clocks more but they must be getting some very efficient cores.