ATI 5000HD details leak -UPDATED

The latest C2D (P series) has a 25W TDP by the way.

The thing with PhysX is that the original PhysX by Ageia (SP?) is CUDA and now is owned by Nvidia so it was faily easy to implement it. I wouldn't be surprised it's patented.

 

Yes, but no with Arrandale there is no NB nor FSB, only the CPU and SB, with QPI between them and using a IMC and IGC for the IGP and the GPU.

EDIT: LOL now those are tons of initials...ROFL

 

Thats exactly what im waiting for, but im not sure about Arrandale at the moment... Yes, its has lower TDP and integrated graphics (another power saving), but when its going to be released in the month, the best processor in arrandale will be i7 6** which has only 2 cores and 4 threads, and id rather have 4/8... (to be future proof)

Any idea when could 4core/8threads version of Arrandale (32nm) appear (for notebooks?)?

 

Late 2010 or 2011.

The thing I worry the most is graphics, battery and SSDs, considering the CPU since the Montevina platform covers 90% if not all of users real needs, the other areas have to catch up with the CPU in general.

And I want Fusion and Sandy Bridge now

 

Yea, CPU isnt bottleneck for sure, thats comforting me a bit if ill decide to choose Arrandale i7

But another thing (and its a bit stupid ) is, that DICE announced that recommended specs for BF:BC2 involves quad core processor and having in mind thats one of the main reasons of changing my laptop (i know, sad ) is me being able to play it makes me think....

Would you say 2core/4thread processor or HD56** graphics would be bottleneck?

 

For gaming the 5700MHD ill be a bottleneck, unless you use a GPU.
Wait, the ATI 56x0HD GPUs?

Consider it this way, based on my assumptions and what I have read, this is purely theoretical though.

4330 : -----
4570 : 5450
4650 : 5470
4670 : 5650
4830 : 5750
4850 : 5770
4860 : 5770
4870 : 5830
4870x2 : 5850
4870x2 : 5870
------- : 5950
------- : 5970

I think that could be a rough approach to performance.

 

Yeah this makes sense. That's about what it is for desktop variants.

 

i'm one the few weird guys waiting for gulftown to come out in Clevo notebooks so i got a mobile processor powerhouse... don't really want 2 core and 4 threads u know.

 

I posted this in the Sager/Clevo thread, but I thought it would be fun here too.

As not to double-post, please click here!

ENJOY!

 

are you hoping to see desktop version i9 in notebook? is it possible? and if its possible, how long will battery last and why would you need 12 threads for

 

You will be able to fit in the desktop i9 in notebooks with desktop motherboards (X58). Battery won't be a concern for people with these laptops because it will be non-existant

 

No way will the 5650 by equivalent to a 5670... no way in a million years.

 

Right I forgot th 5670...It is a rough and theoretical thing, I am guessing.

But the 5750HD was able to match or just below the 4850HD on desktop, and so was the 5770HD to the same level and a tad higher.

They are different, so it is to give an idea but it could be even larger difference.

 

Is there any news about next gen. of firepro cards base on HD 5800?

 

If the mobile 5800 series are anything close to the desktop cards then all I can say is OMG feel the power. LOL

 

Heck even the 5750HD is something to drool! It performs as a 4850HD!

 

Followed by, feeling the burning pain as the plastic melts into your crotch.

 

I dont think that...at least shouldnt be that way...

The 4850HD was 55nm and wasnt a descendant-killer...the 5850HD is 40nm and is rated (in theory) at the same 4850HD, so no killer either...I hope

 

lol don't be that pessimistic... but one thing for sure, no new NVDIA Rebagge is beating the mobile 5870...

 

If you read reviews, he has a valid point. On idle, the 5870 is very efficient but its power consumption sky rockets on load and hence temps...

 

Thank you. Performance isn't the question, heat dissipation is.

 

When idling, the desktop part reaches IIRC 28W consumption, and it goes all the way up to 200+ if I am not mistaken.

But isnt that the same as the 4850HD?

 

The 5850 consumes less power on idle but more power on load, compared to the 4850.

 

yes, these cards do generate serious heat!.

 

Mobility 5750HD = desktop 4850HD?

 

i power my WHOLE system 5850 and AMD phenom x4 with a 350W antec PSU

 

add a few more hdd and fans, i dare you.

 

Had 2 hds and 3 fans

 

I DEMAND MOAR!!!

 

Desktop 5750HD : Desktop 4850HD

But knowing how ATI uses the same GPUs for mobiles, just downclocked and tweaked so they consume less, it could still be a good and valid comparison. We have to wait and see.

 

I though that NVDIA did that...

 

No, unfortunately, NVIDIA desktop and mobile are not always the same.

For example the desktop GTX260 is NOTHING like the mobile GTX260M.

 

nah...it's different...

 

Rebranding at work.

 

key words....
Mobility 5750HD = desktop 4850HD?
not taking the same thing and renaming it 20 times in a 4 year span...and now the 310 is another indication of that...damn shame...i sure hope the real fermi card is nothing like these current 310's

ps: phinagle....check the sig

 

Just to clarify you're talking performance only right? Because the specs of the two GPUs are definitely different according to the info so far.

Real Fermi cards won't be anything a consumer or even a gamer would use fully. Desktop Fermi I'm guessing will be a high-end model (Nvidia usually tests new tech on the higher end then trickles it down) with all the supercomputing features turned-off.

You upgrading that L2100 to the U230 when it comes out in January? Congo with the HD3200 IGP. I'm looking at that or waiting on word of the Lenovo x100e coming with a dualcore Neo option. Always wanted a Lenovo but they keep falling short on specs....they really need to put a 5870 in the i7 W710ds.

 

The mobility 5750 won't be as good as the desktop 4850. The desktop is not even. Maybe mobility 4850

 

phinagle
that was for the other guy. who said the renaming thing. not you.

this was for you...lol
EVGA X58 Classified/[email protected] ghz /Swiftech CI7 WB/1 ATI Radeon HD 5970


jcms
retracted...
not sure...the 5750's may surprise us...look at the 4870m's making a climb...

 

There is NO way the mobile 5750 is better than the desktop 5750

 

yeah...never ever said that.

best i would give is two 5750 mobiles being around = to 1 4870 (specualtion of course)

side note:
wonder how much over clocking they will let us get away with ...with these 5000 series cards...
my DT is pulling 530 watts @1000/1200 (1 card) and 40 watts in idle....

 

if i remember correctly the 4850s made their way into laptops in late summer of this year, so wont we expect to see the mobility 5000 series sometimes in mid to late next year?

 

dont know...but it was the 4850's & 4870's
and the 5000 is supposedly already on the shipping list for someone...toshiba or acer or somebody...i forget.

 

Most likely, since I feel they'll only be doing a paper launch in January. I think Acer was first to have a 5xxx series, but I doubt it will be equipped with GDDR5 and instead with cheaper GDDR3.

 

The MSI GT725 came out in early February. The 4870's (such as they are) were in the Asus W90 a month or two, definitely by April.

 

@John: You said 1 mobility 5750=4850,but the 4850 > 5750

 

really? lets look back at a few things....


Originally Posted by Serg
Heck even the 5750HD is something to drool! It performs as a 4850HD!

Originally Posted by Yixian
Mobility 5750HD = desktop 4850HD?

Originally Posted by Serg
Desktop 5750HD : Desktop 4850HD

But knowing how ATI uses the same GPUs for mobiles, just downclocked and tweaked so they consume less, it could still be a good and valid comparison. We have to wait and see.


(i posted this just to speak on the renaming scheme. that's it. nothing else)
Originally Posted by johnksss
key words....
Mobility 5750HD = desktop 4850HD?
not taking the same thing and renaming it 20 times in a 4 year span...and now the 310 is another indication of that...damn shame...i sure hope the real fermi card is nothing like these current 310's

ps: phinagle....check the sig




so again ill say..."no i didn't"

lets keep up...

 

i read that benchmarks for the 5750 and the 4850 has put the 5750 on top

 

And I think the first company to have a DX11 capable notebook will be Compal. I should get a sample NBLB2 unit just before Christmas

 

Really?!?!?!?! Nice, how, why, when? I want!

 

Couple of days ago one of polish resellers of Compal asked if I want to testdrive the NBLB2 and I didn't hesitated much It will be equipped with:

Not sure about the graphics. It's definitely one of the HD 56xx lineup, thou I don't have details about whether it will be 5650 of 5670. I'll find out in a couple of days