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    Assassin's Creed Unity system requirements (Confirmed)

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by jaug1337, Oct 23, 2014.

  1. Cakefish

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    That's a major boon though. Who wants yucky 60fps anyway? You can't count the individual frames. It's utterly useless. If we can't count the frames then it ceases to be educational. Mathematics is a crucial life skill in the modern world. Think of the children man, think of the children!
     
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    That depends from genre. With single player 3rd person action games I'm usually fine with ~30FPS. If it can go higher (or rather if my laptop can manage it) even better. Now, with FPS games, if you can manage 60FPS it's the way to go, especially for multiplayer. Gameplay is just way smoother.

    I bet my lappy can outperform your!
    New benchmark by Ubisoft - how well does your computer show a slide show!
     
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    Cakefish ¯\_(?)_/¯

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    Are you sure you read my whole comment there? ;)
     
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    killkenny1 Too weird to live, too rare to die.

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    Oh, I see. My sarcasm unit (patent pending) has failed to detect sarcasm.
     
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    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    ^^ da sarcasm processing unit! SPU!
     
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    killkenny1 Too weird to live, too rare to die.

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    I should do a Kickstarter campaign on it!
    Oh, and it's ISUP. Intelligent Sarcasm Unit of Processing.
     
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    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    Your first 10 bucks are on me! :D

     
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    killkenny1 Too weird to live, too rare to die.

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    For 10 bucks you get Activision plugin. 100 gets you EA. 1000 for Valve. Ubisoft comes free of charge because it's just way too easy to make jokes about them right now.
     
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    AAaah. HAHAHAHA! *cough*

    Sorry. ...Some perhaps interesting observations so far about the game. You can reduce the resolution in the PC version, turn off supersampling and so on, reduce the post-processing effects, pick lower detail for the models, avoid certain lighting effects. And essentially you can beat 30fps in something like 1600x900 on a desktop 460 gtx - without going all the way down on the details (which the game does allow, contrary to what the Ubi marketing division seems to insist).

    So with a decent processor (fairly fast dual core) and a gpu that has above a certain minimum of shader units, you will run this game just fine, laptop setup or not. There's nothing.. mysterious going on with per-object passes or animation spline correction, or something like that that demands monstrous CUDA or OpenCL performance, or an incredibly high amount of shader units for some.. in-house parallel algorithm, or whatever. And there's no multi-threaded maintenance that needs a quad-core processor with unprecedented thread response, for example.

    I'm guessing, though I haven't tried, that if you drop the super-sampling/aa and some of the most demanding lighting effects, you should be able to run this in 1920x1080@30fps on an 840m or better. It's not going to look astonishing, of course, and it might struggle a bit because of limited bandwidth towards memory. But then again, it won't look astonishing on the minimum requirements either.

    The only extra details you can heap on beyond that is also worth mentioning. You can increase the supersampling/AA level, you can add lighting effects and so on. And you can do that to a level that could actually cripple a Titan setup in high enough resolution. So.. you know.. business as usual. Game scales just fine.

    It's hilarious that Ubisoft would come up with something like this right when I'm writing this thing on laptop gaming performance, though. Talk about perfect timing.. That sort of thing has never happened to me before. I'm expecting a black hole to suck my laptop into nothingness right before I submit the article or something..
     
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    The funny thing is that while what you say sounds quite plausible, the fact is that "minimum requirements" is targeted at users who will be playing the game at:
    1280 x 720
    lowest possible graphical settings
    30fps gameplay target

    And the recommended requirements are targeting:
    1920 x 1080
    "high" graphical settings preset (not ultra, usually not using AA of any kind)
    30fps gameplay target

    Unless a developer or publisher specifically states that their recommended/min/etc specs are targeting a different level of visual fidelity, these are what people should be assuming.

    Whether it's true or not, the fact is that these specs either incite feelings of "wow, I need to upgrade my PC" or "well I best buy it for PS4! I don't feel like upgrading my 660Ti & FX-6300 yet", which is basically what they want people to think. It falsely makes the consoles look stronger than they are, and they can unoptimize the game on purpose and claim otherwise as much as they want, and the Joe Public of PC users will know nothing better and just assume. Ubisoft gets what they want and the PC users who know a lot just get shafted, and the console users don't listen and call it out unless it happens to them.
     
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    This, exactly.

    I am so very curious how the game plans out once it is released.
     
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    From a guy who loves games like tenchu, mgs, splintercell, batman ac, and most stealth games AC games never appealed to me. I forced myself to play ac 1-4 and the more I try the more I hate em. Its too bad ac black flag wasn't a all out pirate game original instead of being a ac game. Kenway was a horrible lead char, he did not fit in to what the main story was about which is most likely the main reason they had to release the freedom cry dlc. Like I said it would have been best if black flag was a different ip all together. Even for what it was as a AC game Adewali or blackbeard as main leads would have been much more suiting and much more interesting. The main engine is my biggest gripe I never really feel in full control and I never liked the ac gameplay mechanics, people compared mordor to AC but imo SOM had better controls by far.

    The graphics look nice but no way should it be maxing a gtx680 for minimum pal. Its nothing more than a polished version of the same game. If anybody is upgrading and spending more than 1k for games like that and others released this year their losing money. Everybody knows aaa titles wont be this year they will be for 2015 and up. I want a new laptop but i'm going to wait until early next year. Games like the witcher 3, GTA5, division and batman coming in 2015 will begin the true revolution of triple a graphics engines which is why I rather wait next year to buy a new laptop especially with the 5th gen intel chips.

    One thing is for sure if a game like ac unity is this demanding then those other aaa titles i mentioned will most likely be very hardware intensive too. The good news is that anything bought next year will pretty much last you until the next consoles or more. Upgrading for a game you don't like much makes no sense and frankly most of the triple a reveled so far have not wowed me yet. Im more impressed with older classics that released before the "nextgen" that made max use of the respective tech.
     
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    Awesome Hardcore Gamer, confirmed. :)
     
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    Takes one to know one bud :thumbsup:
     
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    :) Mhm. "I have only played MAG for barely 100 hours, but I can give you my first impressions...". "I'm not really an expert on this stuff, but in my opinion the structure of the puzzles in Grim Fandango is very different from a traditional adventure game - take the Sandspoof sequence where you indirectly discover the day the blimp exploded referenced in the Lola riddles...". "Honestly, I think my third playthrough of Xcom was the best one. Right next to the first game on "Genius" where I lost during the end-game - that was great...". After someone unplugged the NES and came up with a helpful tips on how to get back where I was: "What? Skip entire world-maps in Super-Mario Bros. 3?!!? That's cheating!".

    (note: things that were said without a trace of irony.)
     
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    I don't think that's the case because I can run black flag at 1080p high with 35+ fps on Y50. So how can't you play next installment of that game on at least medium settings!
     
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    actually, a bit OT but is OCing for consoles ever a thing?
     
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    If you hack the system at a deep enough level, you can do it (as far as I remember). But they're not designed to handle anything but what they're shipped at, especially the 1st generation ones, so this is usually a big no-no and if anything happens to it you can bet your warranty is dead if they find out you did it.

    In general, assume this is "no"
     
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    There's no way it would work for any extended period of time without seriously modifying the case, adding a different heatsink, etc. Sure you can OC it - but it'll probably overheat. Most modern consoles (RRoD/RLoD) problems have been related to overheating w/o an OC.
     
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    imagine part of the advertisement for the hardware update for xbone and ps4 is that it can OC LOL

    I mean if you don't overvolt it....
     
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    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    Bah I need to buy AssCreed:Unity The Ultimate Cinematic Experience Edition... I won't be getting a new laptop till well into December it seems (thanks to Clevo messing up everything with the perfect machine... HtWingNut, I cannot rep you fast enough brother!)
     
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    Play it in the Power Point mode until you get your new machine.
     
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    What did clevo exactely ?
     
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    i7-4790K + GTX 970:



    Dat graphics and frame rate. :rolleyes:
     
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    I have never seen a game that looks so bad run so bad.
     
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    Agreed, they should have stuck with cinematic 30fps, much more smooth than 49fps.
     
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    Lol.. the thing I've never liked about AC is they make these lovely big worlds.. yet fill it with inanimate objects. Guess I'm really just waiting for another elder scrolls.
     
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    No, like... seriously? That game looks like mess. I've seen far older games look like that, and the system drain is immense for using a 970. Fraps or no fraps. Also, he could have simply been using Shadowplay to record, making his performance hit even less. Even with the ridiculous amount of people on the streets, their models are nowhere NEAR as detailed as his is, which is something often done in higher-graphics open-world-type games where there's meant to be lots of extra things other than the main character on-screen at once. Sleeping Dogs did this to a hilarious degree, with NPCs looking near-PS2 in their graphical fidelity, while the main character looked like he was built out of 18 times more polygons.

    But either way, my point is, that game is so blatantly unoptimized it's quite literally funny to me. And the consoles look WORSE. Worse! It's only "slightly" worse, but still worse! And at a lower resolution and framerate too! Ubisoft have either proven that they no longer actually care about making good looking and good-running games anymore (and believe me, as much as Watch Dogs was broken on PC and Far Cry 3's DX11 runtime was unoptimized for the graphics shown, you BET the console versions ran mostly without a hitch), or proven that they really, really, REALLY have no idea what "optimization" is.
     
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    Yeah, looks horrible.. And seriously, 50fps with those specs on full hd? This must be Ubisoft's worst coded game ever... Even Watch Dogs runner better...
     
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    Oh my god, thanks for nothing Ubisoft.... jesus christ I am dying
     
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    That benchmark video in last page looks awful! I really enjoyed Assassins Creed IV: Pirate but that looks so crappy.
    Bring back the Caribbean!
     
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    I learned my lesson from AC3, I never buy Ubisoft game at launch. You need to wait until they release couple of patches, then at least it's playable. If you are a AMD user wait till game drop below £10. They intentionally make it crappy for AMD users.
     
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    Next time Ubi must make sure to may moar moneyz.
    Also, micro transactions in a full priced game... That's low...
     
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    Dear brave assassin, buy more Ubi credits to "hack" this special content - unlock the Asscreed xtreme cinematic cowl and play now, my lord
     
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    Specs in sig.

    Game runs at around 45FPS maxed out, minus MSAA. 60FPS in closed areas, 30-40 when out in the city. All at 1080. Cutscenes can dip to the low 20s, but it's not too much of an issue.

    The game occasionally looks phenomenal but also really inconsistent. Some textures refuse to load and it has severe LOD issues. Grass pops in 20 metres in front of you and I've had characters have their model swapped out for a higher detail one as I brush up against them.

    Cutscenes show that UbiSoft have faces down super well, hair less so. Game is enjoyable, but combat feels stiff. Only a few hours in. Honestly? It's an AC game. Both in terms of game and quality of the port. Nothing unexpected.
     
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    What if I "hack" without paying? Will Ubi pay me/give me an achievement/etc? I mean, us hardcore gamers must be encouraged somehow too!
     
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    Nah, you gotta buy shaving gel to get cowl DLC.

    I'm serious.
     
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    And that's the fourth time its crashed. All to do with changing graphics settings. Wonderful.

    I also can't tell if the LOD system is straight up busted or not. Too many buildings have awful textures and it ruins the skyline. Keep having characters' clothes pop in detail only when I get right up on them.

    The crowds look janky as hell. Great when standing still, but the second I move, I can see the LOD transitions happening in front of me. We're talking about NPCs that are like 5 metres from you. It's bizarre.
     
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    #Ubitimization
     
  45. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    #Ubiquitin

    like seriously

    Also does not make me feel good about Far Cry 4
     
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    I told everybody it was from Ubisoft. Anybody who pre-ordered it and got burned because it sucked on release deserves having their money taken from them under such false pretenses. There's sympathy and there's "you looked for that". If you know Ubisoft and you know what they do and you know their track record but SOMEHOW believe that "this time it'll be different" you're insane. Their words, not mine (Far Cry 3 =D).
     
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    Far Cry 4 uses the exact same Dunia engine as Far Cry 3. There is hope for that particular title yet.

    Sent from my Nexus 5
     
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    It will play fine don't mind the hate

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
     
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    I was expecting 1080 and 30FPS so I don't mind. The bugs will get sorted in due time, just like with AC3. I love the setting of Unity too much not to have bought it. I don't feel burned really. It's playable, just not ideal.

    Those console versions however.... Ouch. That shouldn't be allowed to happen.
     
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