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    Bad Company 2 Friends

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by usapatriot, Mar 8, 2010.

  1. mew1838

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    Harvest blows. The attackers hardly ever get a chance, not to mention the map is constantly full of wookies.
     
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    lol

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  3. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    [​IMG]

    I play a Wookie occasionally, although I'm usually rockin' the USAS with slugs and extended mags.
     
  4. AlyH

    AlyH Notebook Evangelist

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    Wookie = sniper?
     
  5. CarlosGFK

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    LOL... yes :) Ever seen Star Wars?
     
  6. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    Snipers (well, technically the "Recon" class in this game) wear full-body ghillie suits, which give the appearance of being covered in fur, like a Wookiee.
     
  7. redrazor11

    redrazor11 Formerly waterwizard11

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    Ghillie suits have never really worked in previous FPS (atleast in my experience). But in this game....they definietly blend in. I think it has something to do with the shading of the avatars using the same shading as the foliage. Plus....all of the foliage moves back and forth, so you never know if it's a tree branch swaying in the wind or a wookie's arm keying in his mortor strike.

    It's possible that a very delicate recon player can sneak through the brush right down the center of enemy territory. I don't think that could ever be done in say, World At War...because the characters don't carry the same lighting that the environment does. They are easy to distinguish even in perriferal vision. Not to mention the robotic walking motions.

    Ocassionally...I'll try a wookie-tank manuver (run through some brush, and it will accumulate on top of your armor). It even stays with you if you don't hit any rough patches.
     
  8. AlyH

    AlyH Notebook Evangelist

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    hahahahah I don't know how I missed that one but that's hilarious! :D
     
  9. JosefMiller

    JosefMiller Newbie

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    Although Saiga spam is getting out of hand...
     
  10. Ruckus

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    Played a few new maps and noticed the same flaw. There is that still funnel problem on the maps so despite being so large, only really one area for defense to focus on and they win.
     
  11. Ferrari

    Ferrari Notebook Evangelist

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    the fake ACOG needs a BDC, and its not as fast or effective as the real one but then i dont see how they can replicate the BAC of the real one.
     
  12. AlyH

    AlyH Notebook Evangelist

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    Do we know yet if Vietnam is stand-alone?
     
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    rcjonessnp175 Notebook Enthusiast

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    you might have the acog mixed up with a m3x leupold, or a mark 4 leupold scopes that i assume are on the sniper rifles. As an acog in real life has no bdc for immediate adjustment, only has the elevation and windage adjustment when you zero your rifle. Thats the hole point of the xmas tree type reticle thats in the real acog, its staggered reticle alows quick engagements out to 600m, works well in real life shooting the taliban. Anyways its a game and it sure doesnt have much right as far as real life weapons and optics.

    My screen name for game is rcjonessnp175 usually playing on my g73jw laptop. :D
     
  14. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    No, it's part of the base game. Go to the main menu, and click the "Vietnam" button on the far left, and it will take you to a slightly different main menu, with CCR playing in the background.
     
  15. Ferrari

    Ferrari Notebook Evangelist

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    I have a Trijicon ACOG model TA31RCOA4CP and it has a BDC and it also has a horizontal mil scale. Most Trijicon ACOG's have a BDC but some dont, the 1x,2x and some 3x models dont.. I dont know what you mean by "staggered reticle". Usually the cheveron, horshoe, donut, crosshair etc. are zeroed at 100m which will also make the BDC that is designed on the ACOG accurate out to 800m depending on the model. Here is a fun fact, did you know that the stadia lines below the reticle on a Trijicon ACOG represent the average width of a mans shoulders(19in) at the indicated range? It also functions as a ranging feature.

    I know its a game and i know it does not protray real life optics/wepons but the fake ACOG in this game sucks, its rubbish, useless and not accurate. I was just frustrated because i have none of those problems with my real one mounted on my AR15...
     
  16. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    You mean chokepoints, yeah, especially on the rush maps. I think that is why one of hte reasons the whole Rush concept is fatally flawed, is there is only one direction from which the attackers can come from.
     
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    Right on, with the acog, the versions we have in sf are the old crusty ones. Matter of fact their getting turned in since we got the new elcans, which were initially designed for the scars, not a bad sight. Roger on the width of the shoulders with the reticle.
    Ya it is just a game but would be nice to add alittle more dynamics to it with adjustable scopes and such, especially on the newer maps they released, their actually quite big. Well definately looking forward to the vietnam addition to this as i think this game has the best online multiplayer by far, if only medal of honor had more maps and bigger more open ones like bfbc2 :eek:
     
  18. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I find both the RDS and ACOG in-game to be crap. The reticules for both are too big.
     
  19. JT408

    JT408 Notebook Consultant

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    this thread would be a lot more interesting if my BC2 didnt kick me for using optimus. yay punkbuster
     
  20. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    I generally enjoy the iron sights for most of the weapons in this game, so I don't really need to use the red dot or ACOG. The one exception I have is the M60 and it's horrible clunky awkward sight; when I'm going for full-blown support gunner mode, I'll use the M60 with the red dot sight and LMG marksman training. I get so many more kills than with the two medkit upgrades and the M60's default sights, it's unbelievable.
     
  21. mew1838

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    LMG Marksman?
     
  22. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    My main problem with the game is the autobalance. It only balances the number of players on each team. I've been involved in too many games lately where one team is just steamrolling the other.

    It should also do one of two things:

    A) Scramble teams after a round in which one team absolutely slaughtered the other.

    B) Rank/Skill based autobalance prior to round starts.
     
  23. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    It's a Medic specialization that multiplies the spread of LMG's by 0.75x. Basically, makes everything more accurate. I believe there are similar specializations for the other classes as well.
     
  24. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    So what do you guys think about Vietnam? Personally, I think it's awesome! I love the environment. And the gameplay itself feels a lot more fluid than BC2.
     
  25. AlyH

    AlyH Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm waiting to hear more reviews like that one before I buy it. Should I expect the same performance as I do in BC2?
     
  26. stevenxowens792

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    Vietnam is amazing. Maps are gorgeous. Gameplay is great. Music is great. Love this game so far!!!!!!!

    StevenX
     
  27. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    Vietnam is FANTASTIC. It feels so optimized and polished, even compared to regular BC2. Weapons are very well balanced.

    The M60's iron sights are very clear and useful compared to the piece of crap default sight on the BC2 version. Which is good, because there's no red dot or 4x scopes in Vietnam. :p

    Here's a brief list of weapons and stuff in Vietnam:
    Assault:
    • M16 (full automatic, no 3-round burst)
    • AK-47
    • M14 (20 round magazine)
    • M79 grenade launcher (instead of under-barrel attachment)
    • Ammo box (different looks, but functionally identical to BC2 ammo box)
    Medic:
    • M60 (MUCH better iron sights than the regular BC2 version, otherwise identical)
    • RPK
    • XM22
    • Syringe (equivalent to defibrillator from regular BC2, can revive teammates and kill enemies)
    • Medkit (same as regular BC2 version, just looks different)
    Engineer:
    • MAC-10
    • PPSh
    • Uzi
    • RPG-7 (unguided, no tracer darts. Different iron sights from regular BC2 version)
    • Welding torch (functionally equivalent to repair tool from regular BC2; repairs vehicles and can damage enemies)
    Recon:
    • M21
    • SVD
    • M40
    • T.N.T. (equivalent of C4)
    • Mortar
    Sidearms:
    • M1911 .45
    • TT-33
    All-Class Weapons
    • Flamethrower (short range, but allows for continuous fire, and deals afterburn damage, allowing the possibility of your target dying even after you stop firing. Afterburn can be counteracted with a medkit)
    • M1 Garand
    • M1A1 Thompson
    • 870 Combat (essentially a re-skinned 870MCS)
    • Hand Grenade
    • Combat Knife
    Specializations are pretty much all the same as in regular BC2, except there are no red dot sights or ACOG scopes, and the only alternate sight available to the Recon is the 12x scope. Marksman specializations, medkit upgrades etc. are still available, as are the vehicle perks, with the addition of a mounted flamethrower for tanks available as a specialization.
     
  28. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Exactly my thoughts. It feels so much more polished now than BC2 even now. The gameplay is smooth and fluid (when there is no lag) and everything feels well put together. Action is intense and brutal and extremely satisfying!

    One of my favorite things to do has been sniping as the defenders on the fiery map (name?). I go all the way to the top and shoot down onto the trenches the attackers are coming into, so much fun!
     
  29. naticus

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    If have to agree with the rest, Vietnam is great. It runs maxed on my laptop @ 1600x900 res, and very fluid. This is what Blackops should have been.
     
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    It's awesome, like everyone said - it's more intense than BC2 since maps are a lot more linear (narrower), game performance is great (runs better than BC2), no more 'floaty mouse' sensation, guns have a lot less recoils which yield better accuracy over long distance.

    Didn't like:
    - a lot of chokeholds in Rush mode
    - annoying news reader narrations (start/end of a round)
    - fewer guns than BC2
    - EA store charges tax
    - Your stats may get reset back to 0 like mine and many others (hopefully this will get fixed soon)

    Overall, it's great, this will keep me busy until BF3 is out.
    It would be awesome if Battlefield 1943 could get released as a DLC like Vietnam.
     
  31. BatBoy

    BatBoy Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Yep - agreed. The Vietnam DLC is well worth the 15 bones. Played a bit last night when Steam finally unlocked it. Amazing.

    Today however, the servers are glitching rank/stats/unlocks. Reset to level 1. From what I have been reading on the Steam forums, this is across the board. Wonder why some are impacted and others are not though. Oh well, sure they will resolve it quickly.

    Bottom line, if you love BC2, get this!
     
  32. Prydeless

    Prydeless Stupid is

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    It feels kind of weird seeing VC with US weapons; likewise with the US engineer and RPGs. Never felt that in a modern combat setting. Nonetheless it's good fun even if I die horribly too often. I love using the vehicles just to turn the radios on. Still not fond of Rush mode.
     
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    Yea for 15 bucks Vietnam is awesome! Especially the sounds and it does seem pretty balance for the most part.
     
  34. Ferrari

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    I like the bad company vietnam its really fun and well done. They almost should have made another game out of it with a single player.

    Needs moar VC guns, but then again if they put in the mosin or sks i dont think anyone would use it. I thought it was kinda odd seeing a USGI engr using a rpg... when they should be using the M72 LAW.

    There is a goof, in the game they make referances to hamburger hill, on map hill 137. The real hamburger hill was hill 937. There are a couple moar goofs like with the 1911, but what ever the fun out wieghs it i guess.
     
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    I'm so new to this and the steam interface, but since getting BFBC2 I'm addicted, even though I never kill anyone and just keep dying. Anyway I already added Vicious as a friend I play as Diehard01, I guess it added the 01, since I go by Diehard on Steam. Add me as a friend I don't have much just 2. I'll have to study this steam stuff some more and get better at Bad Company. See you guys online.
     
  36. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Practice makes perfect! You'll get a lot better with time. Just remember, don't run around all the time, when you're in an action area, walk and be vigilant. Only run to get across open spaces.
     
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    yeah, after getting so accustomed to COD series I keep running. This is more simulation, I guess, although I live in Hawaii and I always get high pings like 200 and up. That sucks so bad because I keep getting killed even if I spot and shoot first. Is there anything I can do about this besides trying a new ISP? I've haven't yet tried this tweak:

    [To improve hit registration:
    Are you tired of shooting people in Bad Company 2 but they don't take any damage? So was I. One poster on Gamefaqs (spank_thru101) posted a possible solution to the problem so I decided to test it out. Upon further investigation, this was also something you could edit in previous battlefield games.

    Basically, add these two lines;

    SettingsManager.floatSet GSDefaultLatencyCompensation 0.0450000
    SettingsManager.U32Set GSInterpolationTime 45

    to your gamesettings.ini and settings.ini file in the BFBC2 folder.
    In gamesettings.ini, add them between the lines;

    IntroPlayed=1
    [GstPersistence]

    In settings.ini, just add it to the end of the list. Save both files.

    BEFORE YOU TRY THIS, change the value to your general server ping. For me, when I refresh the list, most servers are 31-45 ping. So, I change the values to .045 and 45 for 45 ping.

    Say most of your servers are 73 ping, you'll want to change the values at the end of the previously stated changes to .073 and 73 respectively.

    Apparently the battlefield series tries to compensate for an average of 100ms ping by default and so the hitboxes appear to "lag behind" the actual player model you're seeing in game. This fix changes it so that the models are where the hitboxes actually are by adjusting to your average ping instead. ]

    I'm not sure how to change my general server ping. Can someone tell me? Has anyone tried this?
     
  38. ninthparadigm

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    the game is now 7 bucks on Steam
     
  39. AlyH

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    yea, can't believe that! IMO, this is a $60 game, but it's nice to see that it's only $20 regular.
     
  40. usapatriot

    usapatriot Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The Vietnam Conquest maps are really bad. 3 out 4 are just straight lines of capture points which means that whoever captures the center point first is pretty much the winner because they have just totally choke and hold the other team at their first base.

    Why did DICE become so lazy?
     
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    I was thinking to grab BC2 since its on sale.
    I was wondering how many people are still there in MP?
     
  42. TomTom2007

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    Tons of people are still playing BC2, game only released back in March. It's not going anywhere anytime soon.
    For $6, you can't really go wrong.
     
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    :D
    Downloading...
     
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    Kingpinzero ROUND ONE,FIGHT! You Win!

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    Ive recently gone back to BC2 after a Black Ops hiatus and quite frankly theres nothing that beats this game, no matter how much fps you play.

    Its strategic, deeper, customizable, highly satisfying, big and challenging.

    Even if my ratio is crap, i do love to play it in squad based games, because it gives you points for any action, like reviving a comrade, giving enemy positions, and so on.

    You can rank up the board easily althought your ratio sucks if you do alot of points. Plus no gay killstreaks or Arcadeish superhuman powers.

    Just raw guns. And power. And tactics.

    BTW i just got Vietnam as well and im willing to bet that its using a refined engine instead of the standard version, because it runs FAAAAAR better than the original game, and clearly there are some newer eyecandy effects.

    Prolly its a mixture of the newer Frostbyte engine that will be used in BC3 and BF p4f.

    Anyway freel free to add me, i do play it alot: KingpinZero (also is the same steam nick, so add me there as well).
     
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    I like Vietnam so far. Seems to run more smoothly. Overall hit detection is good too. Not sure if they fixed it or not, but my experience so far has been pretty good.
     
  46. usapatriot

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    I like it too, but it could use a bit of tweaking. For example, I think the guns feel a little bit CODish, they barely have any recoil and shoot straight as a laser. I couldn't help but be reminded of COD when I spammed the M60 at four other guys and got them all at about 75m without ever taking my finger off the trigger. In vanilla BC2, this would never work.

    The beginning of Vantage Point Rush is just constant grenade spam and of the times I've played Rush on this map, 75% of the time, for both teams, it just becomes a grenade massacre and no one gets past the first set of MCOM's. Terrible design.

    Also, 3/4 conquest maps have terrible straight line capture point design with the map boundaries hugging the points which means there is no room for flanking. So basically, whatever team captures the central point first is pretty much guaranteed a win.

    Also, I would liked to have seen faction specific weaponry modeled more realistically, for example, the M16 should have been able to hold only 20-rounds. The M16 should have been US Army specific and the AK47 NVA specific, etc. Also, a few more guns wouldn't have hurt. They definitely missed out the M72 LAW, it feels awkward using the RPG-7 on the US Army side. Other guns like the CAR-15, M3 "Grease gun", SKS, Model 500 shotgun, FN FAL, etc. could have been put in as well.
     
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    Prydeless Stupid is

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    They're already part of the game and just needed to be unlocked server side. Might have noticed you were playing them already. It's not that they were new maps, but unlocked modes unavailable during the game's release.
     
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    I didn't knew that.
    Thanks
     
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