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    Battlefield 3 Discussion Thread

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by usapatriot, Jan 25, 2011.

  1. R3d

    R3d Notebook Virtuoso

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    30+, average should be around 45 (on 64p multiplayer maps). Use SSAO instead of HBAO and the dx11 render path tweak and you should be able to hit 60 on high.
     
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    Hmm I'll keep that in mind, thanks!
     
  3. Torment78

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    what is the dx11 render tweak i have forgoten
    i might not need it tho i get around min 55 top 130 fps
    but i was thinking to set the game to preset high becouse now im running custom
     
  4. Falco152

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    Well, the 540m can push avg 40+ on high-ultra settings @ 720 on 64 man servers. I think the 650m should do better.
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    @Torment78 ...Here you go.

    Render.DrawScreenInfo 0
    Render.PerfOverlayEnable 1
    Render.PerfOverlayVisible 0
    RenderDevice.Dx11Enable 1
    RenderDevice.ForceRenderAheadLimit 0
    RenderDevice.TripleBufferingEnable 0
    Screenshot.Format png
    UI.DrawEnable 1
    WorldRender.DxDeferredCsPathEnable 0
    WorldRender.SpotLightShadowmapResolution 256
     
  5. darxide_sorcerer

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    ^ DirectX 11 support is enabled by default in Battlefield 3, so the 4th line of your user.cfg is not doing anything. also, i don't understand why you want to disable triple-buffering; it helps get rid of the tearing and prevents your frame-ratae to lock to 30 if you're using v-sync in the game. by the way, by setting WorldRender.SpotLightShadowmapResolution to 256, you're reducing the resolution of the light sources significantly; of course, it helps ease rendering burden and will probably improve the fps but will make poor shadows.
     
  6. Torment78

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    cheers m8
    atm im gettting betven 55 to 130 fps in 64p multi on caspian so do i realy need it and i got a 120hz screen so im not realy scared of tearing
     
  7. R3d

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    "WorldRender.DxDeferredCsPathEnable 0" was what I was talking about. I don't think the other stuff makes much of a performance difference.
     
  8. Primes

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    very odd. i logged back in and was on page 505 of this thread, read through and didn't see it. :(
     
  11. Falco152

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    Not really, your settings are good and for I am envious of your comp :p
     
  12. Torment78

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    shanged my settings to day to high preset turned off motion blur was driving me crazy so :) and i sett in nv control panel the new vsync you know adaptive one
    on metro 64p cq drops belov 60fps once every 15min or so and it only drops ca 2fps to 6fps then back up to 60fps
    the game i smother then a babys bothom i thought i had lag before but it seem the high dif in fps i could have some times made it feel like that you know droping from 130 to 70 and back up or 95 to 55 and up again
    a think you shoul try it if you have nv and if you some times drop below 30 set adaptive vsync to half the update hz you know 30hz


    ps you must have the new 301,24 driver to have these extra godies
     
  13. Falco152

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    Yeah, I never liked the motion blur. Thank goodness that you can turn it off.
    Adaptive vsync it is a decent compromise for traditional vsync and turning right off.

    But the periodic drops to 2 to 6 is very strange, try turning off your sensor logging.




    Would love to turn off HDR, helps reduce the shiny blindness around.
     
  14. Torment78

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    how to turn the logging off
    have to go to bed see you on battlelogg to morro ?
     
  15. cknobman

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    Great read. After reading that I have found it much easier to pick out cheaters.

    Logged on yesterday to play for a while and was able to quickly spot 1 person on the other team that was definitely cheating. I spawned as recon and went deep into a building and just stood there hiding, I did not shoot or spot anyone on the other team. I less than 3 minutes a chopper flew over and plowed down the building trying to kill me. I was the only one in the building and none of the enemy came in there and spotted me so how did he know I was in there? Anyways he could not destroy the building enough to kill me so he hid his chopper somewhere (I could no longer hear it flying around). The instant I stuck my head out of the building to look around he unleashed a salvo of rockets on me and I died.

    LOL.
     
  16. Falco152

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    Are you sure they don't have proxy sensor on?

    They still pick up people, even if while being still.
    You could be spotted by a nearby mav or soflam.
     
  17. Torment78

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    falco where do you turn off the logging thing
     
  18. unixfool

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    ^^ This, as well as someone spotting you while you run to the building (before you're inside). I've spotted people crossing window panes before, also. There could also be a sniper-placed proxy outside, as well as the aforementioned vehicle-mounted sensor. If you're picked up by a proxy sensor, everyone on that team would be able to see you on radar (correct me if I'm wrong).
     
  19. Falco152

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    You're not wrong, everyone on the team would see it if they bother to pay attention to the 2d radar.

    Also, note 3d spot doesn't always show to everyone though :(.
    Found that out via helo/gunner perceptive (Why mic is sooo important).

    Same goes for MAV spotting, however aiming at the person seems to work more often than using spotting.

    MAV and TUGs requires movement to be picked up while vehicle proxy will pick up everyone regardless what you do.

    MAV can't use 3d spotting on enemies that are already detected via your on-board motion sensors.
     
  20. DirtyTrickster

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    Why is it when I hear "so and so spoted in your area" I can't actually see them on my 2d map until theyre on top of me?
     
  21. darxide_sorcerer

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    if your CPU is strong enough, you could achieve higher fps by changing the 0 in the line below to a higher number (1 or 2 seem to work the best for people):
    RenderDevice.ForceRenderAheadLimit 0
     
  22. Falco152

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    Oh his cpu is definitely strong enough. Since he is using an Nvidia card, by default, his force render ahead is 3.

    Hmm, kinda got me thinking that might be his issue.

    That random Drop to 6fps periodically is going to be annoying since it messes your rate of fire.
     
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    I'm thinking they may be using the camo perk. That happens to me a lot too.
     
  24. Torment78

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    it doesent drop to 2 to 6 fps it drops with 2 to 6 fps
    so the totall would be 54 to 58 fps from the sett adaptive vcync at 60 fps small
    miss understading sorry guys thanks for trying to help tho +1 to both of you
     
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    Thought I'd bump this and brag that I managed to pull off a 423m head shot :p
     
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    I dont care about noobs that use wallhack, I'm only worried and annoyed about people who use aimbot and what sucks is you can't tell since there is no killcam like on cod/crysis2.
     
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    I played some more BF3 lately, and it is still chock full of cheaters. EVERY round I play there's at least 2 people that are banned for hacks/cheats. It's getting ridiculous. On top of that there's the "air hore" veterans level 50 or 60 or even 70+ colonel veteran service star. They clearly have spent 90% of their time in the jet and just fly around all day. Funny thing is those servers when I've played, their team has lost because they didn't bother with the ground war. Sometimes you just need to get on the ground and help take points.
     
  28. Torment78

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    i agre conpleatly
     
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    I'm thinking about getting this or MW3. Any sale going on with either?
     
  30. Mastershroom

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    Not that I've seen lately.

    As for which to get, assuming same price, it's up to how you like to play. BF3 is definitely a higher quality game overall with a lot more features and more intelligent gameplay, but it requires a much greater amount of effort and learning to get good. MW3 is fun in a quick run & gun kind of way. Easy to learn, but difficult to master and top the scoreboards frequently. They both have pretty solid single-player campaigns, too. MW3's won't make much sense if you haven't played through CoD4 and MW2, though. They also both have co-op modes, but MW3 definitely wins in that category. Way more missions and variety compared to BF3.
     
  31. DEagleson

    DEagleson Gamer extraordinaire

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    I have given up on BF3 public matches.
    At least in Mass Effect 3 they dont cheat against you.

    Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
     
  32. darxide_sorcerer

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    yes, Battlefield 3 and Back to Karkand DLC are 50% off in Origin store this weekend.
     
  33. p1n0yBaLLeR

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    bf3 is way better and realistic, i only play on mw3 when my friends invite me on xbox lol.
     
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    I was in that match with you.

    I tried to get them in the jet, but that guy knows how to shoot in third person every time.

    So I gave up after a couple times and went to retake that E.
    And then A and C repeatedly, using jets as transport.
     
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    Ha! Didn't even see you in there dangit. Was online with a buddy who came over to my house actually. He was playing on my desktop, I was on my NP6110. :D
     
  36. mtrein

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    Hm, so there are many cheaters on BF3? Do a lot of people play BF3 on these forums? Maybe if we got a private server going, unless you guys already have private a server.
     
  37. DEagleson

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    We rented our own server a while back but its costly and we did not have enough activity on it either.
     
  38. R3d

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    BF3 is 50% off for memorial day I think.
     
  39. mtrein

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    And how do both compare to America's Army 3? Does anyone here play that? I used to play the first version.
     
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    AA3 is pretty much completely dead, lacks content, and the gameplay is completely different (more sim-like). Not recommended.
     
  41. mtrein

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    Is it fair to say that America's Army is more realistic, MW3 is more arcade and BF3 sits somewhere in the middle?
     
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    I would say ArmA is more realistic, then AA, then BF3, then MW3... but yes.
     
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    Except that BF3 is no way anywhere near the middle :p
     
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    What is ArmA and AA? Which one is America's Army? What is the other one?
     
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    AA = America's Army

    ArmA is a hardcore sim combat compared to any other FPS. America's Army 3 feels kind of bland compared to today's shooter, even back then. If you ask me, AA feels like a blatant advertisement to join the army (sponsored by the US Army).

    The other one is MW3, Modern Warfare 3, Call of Duty 7 or 8...I'm not sure.
     
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    ArmA 2 is the latest one, it seems. Is it any good?
     
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    It's ok.

    It's a shame that it would remembered for most people as a game got popular cause of a zombie mod that barely in alpha state.
     
  48. usapatriot

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    There's this new mod out for ArmA 2 called DayZ and it's supposed to be an amazing zombie survival mod using the vast expanses and player counts capable on the ArmA 2 engine. I haven't bought it cause buying ArmA 2 for $30 for a free mod that's still in alpha doesn't make too much sense to me. Still, some of you may give it a shot. :)

    DayZ Mod
     
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    BF3 is really irritating me. I was on a caspian border map about 10 guys at one flag, 5 of them support, yet not one of them would drop ammo. I was all outta ammo too. running around screaming ammo ammo, drop some freaking ammo, even texted it and not a one...
     
  50. DirtyTrickster

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    I have the same problem. If I'm playing support I'll drop ammo for you.
    Bf3 name = DirtyTrickster
     
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