Battlefield 3 Discussion Thread

Cool your jets dude (pun). Ok, I see the prone. Don't know about peeking, cover, commander, mobile anti-air, etc.

I saw that jet, but looks almost like cutscene stuff. Who knows. I'm sure there will be, I HOPE!

 

I hope so too. That is what I am looking forward to the most. lol I can't wait to fly some jets.

 

Yea, and don't forget about a proper communication system with hud overlay for spotting enemy's and demanding ammo, lol.

 

Apparently DICE said that the leaked ALPHA screens were by some COD fanboy who turned down all the graphics settings to make the game look bad. Reference this link.

 

So that means they have to show us more real footage to refute the leaked footage, right?

 

Yeah didn't see any of that either. :cry:

 

More videos here.

 

LMAO @ the Dancing fat kid!!!

 

After seeing these videos I have to disagree with anyone who says this doesn't look any better than BC2. This looks absolutely amazing. The destruction capabilities are insane.

 

I also heard this footage was recorded at 35fps and 1080p on a desktop gtx 560ti.

 

Woot! And that's ALPHA which is usually crappy not even close to optimized code.

 

The star is for the squad leader, and you get extra points for killing them.

For all the people saying it's awesome because it's like BC2 with better graphics and fixed bugs, that's good and all but that's what BFBC3 is for, not BF3. Overall, I'm pretty disappointed with what I'm seeing, but I'll be honest and admit that I gave up on hoping for a proper sequel to BF2 a while ago.


IMHO:

The Good:
- Visually stunning
- Amazing sound effects
- RPG's flying down that tunnel
- Can't think of anything else that stands out as unique


The Bad:
- Destructible environments? Looks only partially destructible to me, i.e. only a select few buildings are destructible. Check this video out for more (sorry if it's already posted somewhere). It would be nice if the rubble stayed on the ground to create more cover, not instantly disappear.

- No sign of in-game VOIP nor mention of it yet.

- Too much clutter on the screen, hopefully there's an option to remove some of those "notifications", or atleast have it removed for hardcore mode.... also, please let there be a hardcore mode!

- Again we see little triangles popping up over people's heads; I was never a fan of that and is one of the main reasons I stick to hardcore mode.

- No comma-rose or communication system asides the all-purpose Q-smashing.

- Mostly lone-wolfing going on, don't really see how they can incorporate teamwork without any means to communicate asides typing or 3rd-party software.

- Waiting to see the other maps to see if they've come up with anything new and exciting, or if it really is just the BFBC3 Alpha.


The Ugly:
- They're getting away with it because we're all still going to buy this game.

 

I'm sure there will be hardcore mode, would be crazy to not have it.

I dont really miss the rose. Sure it was fun to say Submarine spotted on top of a building, but whats the point? People know when to heal you, give ammo, etc. I think it's fine.

Didn't BC2 have VoIP? It's pretty standard in games now, isn't it?

I agree with you about the destruction. Though I understand why it's not everywhere, pretty obvious. For example in the video he tries to blow up random walls and buildings, but there's no way for anyone to be in those buildings, so what's the point?


I do agree completely with you about the pop-ups, notifications and all that new CoD crap that every game seems to require now.

Was never a big fan of commander, either a troll took it and tried to drop crates on your head, or you were in a game with friends and planned game with two good commanders. I understand that some people really liked it though, bit of a shame. Sign of the times and all that.

 

All the newly leaked videos I just watched.

‪Battlefiled 3 - Tank/Metro Gameplay (HD)‬‏ - YouTube

‪Battlefield 3 - Operation Metro runthrough & Destruction Gameplay (HD)‬‏ - YouTube

‪Battlefiled 3 - LMG/Bipod Gameplay (HD)‬‏ - YouTube

‪Battlefield 3 - Bolt Action Sniper, Shotgun And vehicle Gameplay (HD)‬‏ - YouTube

‪Battlefield 3 - Sneaky Sniper Multiplayer Gameplay (HD)‬‏ - YouTube

‪Battlefield 3 - Epic Mcom Disarming HD Gameplay‬‏ - YouTube

‪Battlefield 3 - Multiplayer gameplay "Montage" (HD)‬‏ - YouTube

 

I know the comma-rose was definitely prone to spamming in BF2 and I'm not going to lie, I've spotted boats on Karkand a few times, but those issues are easily fixable. The reason they're not including a comma-rose is because a comma-rose would not work well on consoles. Sure we can live without it, but then they need to ensure there's working VOIP and a quick and easy way to communicate with someone not in your squad. BFBC2 has VOIP, but it hasn't worked since Day 1 and EA/DICE have done nothing to fix it, which is probably why people want a comma-rose because they know EA/DICE will probably screw up VOIP again.

I don't mean to be pessimistic, I really want this to be a good game. But so far all I'm seeing is an engine update to BFBC2, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, just don't sell it to us as BF3 and kill 2 birds with 1 stone. BFBC3 will essentially be DLC as it'll be just new maps to the engine BF3 is built on, and EA goes to the bank laughing, and the community ends up thinking they have 2 games, where we've really just bought one game and DLC maps. /rant, sorry.

 

I don't get why people still bring up the consoles when they talk about the PC version DICE said from the start they are two seperate things.

 

The command rose is good for asking for help from people that are NOT in your squad. Yes you need to work together, but why segregate squads? They need to work a way to integrate squads together. Maybe something like BF2 where only the squad leader could talk to the commander, but this time, let the squad leader talk to other squads. I hate that you have to target a specific person to ask for health or ammo though. Just allow us to announce it.

I agree 99% with everything AlyH says...

 

LOL now I want to know where that 1% went!

 

I don't believe in a perfect score!

 

Battlefield Bad Company is not Battlefield series. They are completely too different IP. You can't compare it to Black Ops because Blacks Ops is part of Call of Duty franchise. COD MW, COD W@W, COD MW2, COD BO are all Call of Duty games. Bad company 1 on console is nothing like Battlefield 1941, Vietnam, and II.

Lastly this is what Bad Company 3 should look like not Battlefield 3. It hard to explain unless you play all the past battlefield games.

I'll be frank, I'm very disappointed with BF3 from all the footage I seen so far. I do like the single player campaign footage however, but it look somewhat different from the multiplayer footage. Still buying it but probably not a first day buy for me.

Bad company is a mediocre game at best but with high replay value. It look fake and it doesn't look serious, and that is what BF3 is starting to look like as well. This is suppose to be like Battlefield II and nothing shown so far is anything like that. The shooting mechanic, FOV is so different from past battlefield series, it quite (insert word).

 

BF3 will be huge...and bfbc2 is best game from dice , i played bf2 lately but you cant compare this two games...big jump in many aspects

 

..and this is where you see the difference between the die-hard BF2 players and the (i'm guessing slightly younger) players of the COD/BFBC series.

BF2 was more than just a shooter. It wasn't great because of the graphics (though they were pretty good) or the engine, or the story (story huh?), it was great because of the people who played it. There is no game out right now (except maybe Arma 2, and thats pushing it) where you can see the same kind of teamwork that you did in BF2. Where you would get insanely good pilots who would stick to flying the helicopters/jets and the rest of the team would accept that (on most occasions, or when TK was off lol) and focus on the other vehicles/roles.
Yes Bad Company 2 is a good game, but you don't see anywhere near the same kind of gameplay/teamwork that you did in BF2, people generally stick to themselves and even if you do get a squad together, thats what 4 people? Not really a well oiled machine

Oh and also BF2 was just as hilarious as it was enjoyable (The Pwned Life anyone? Youtube it.)

So basically what i'm saying is that the only way BF3 will be good, is if it is exactly the same as BF2

/rant

Blazin

 

^^^
Yeah agree Blazin, I clocked like 100 or so hours into BF2 at its prime... and BC2, despite being pretty good, just can't compare...

 

Great, I clocked 100 or so hours into 1942 and every game since (except maybe 2142...didn't really see the appeal). I really don't see all where the hate is coming from. They've cleaned up the game and made it more accessible. I know that's a bad word, casual, mainstream, streamlined, etc (not hardcorexxx enough for some people). BC2 played like Battlefield to me, sure it was missing jets, big maps, commo-rose, and more, but the fundamentals were still there.

Ultimately when I play BC2, I feel like I'm playing Battlefield. And I'm sure it will be the same in BF3

 

Yeah i'm not saying it's not going to be a good game, however I just don't want it to end up in the category of 'just another fps'.
I guess BF2 was so great because there was nothing of the same calibre in its time. Now there are **** loads of FPS games and I guess it's too much for to ask for them to innovate a bit and move away from the standard FPS formula.

 

I clocked over 500 hours of BF2 back in the day and it was by far the best multiplayer experience I've ever had. I hope BF3 will top it.

 

i got this question: If i can play bad company 2 right now smoothly with everything on max will i be able to play BF3 on max too? here are my FPS figures:

AF = 16x
MSAA = 8x
FPS = 28-35

AF = 16x
MSAA = 1x
FPS = 38-45

Everything else is enabled and/or set to highest.

 

BF3 will be much more demanding. I really hope it's properly optimized.

 

the image quality on radeon sucks in battlefield with all the power lines and other line shaped models in-game. everything is zig-zag (if u have a close up look) even with MSAA 4x

 

What about with nvidia? AA quality isn't always dependant on GPU drivers. Did you check AMD CCC @ the AA option "Let the application decide"?

Actually, AMD > Nvidia in BF, because FB is optimized for Radeons.

 

Hey guys, i just wanted to say that i have gotten a code for the alpha test and will now be playing it : ) If you guys want i could tape it with fraps and put it on the youtube as unlisted and give you guys links. Im not going to be able to download it the next few days since im on dial up speed ATM. But i have redeemed the alpha on Origin If you want to know anything bout it when i have it downloaded just ask!
Ohh and FYI, i also have the confirmed recommended hardware. It says it in the email : )

 

Please answer all of HTWingnut's burning questions a few posts back. I think he's gonna have an aneurysm if it isn't close enough to BF2 (With commander tools, and spotting system, and others).

 

What? Why would it look different on an AMD chip?

 

Please write them down, i dont wanna go through 79 posts on my dial up right now. I havent downloaded it yet, i have downloaded 3% right now : ) ill report back once i have played a bit! Im a happy fella now

 

are you saying that your gtx260 m and the i7-820 are enough to play the game comfortably? Please do fraps it, though obviously fraps kills the framerate... be sure to tell us how it runs without fraps hogging resources too.

 

i dont know yet, but i run most games smoothly.

THIS IS THE OFFICIAL RECOMMENDED SETTINGS FOR THE ALPHA!:
OS: Windows 7 or Vista (SP1)
Installed: Origin
CPU: Quadcore @ 2.0 GHz or faster
RAM: 4GB or more
Hard Drive: 7.25GB free
Video: 512 MB or greater DirectX 10 or 11
compatible card with latest drivers (AMD 11.5 or later, nVidia 275.33 or later)
Sound: DirectX 10 or 11 compatible card
Internet: broadband connection

I COPY PASTED THIS STRAIGHT FROM THE EMAIL FROM EA!

 

it looks awesome in both cases it's just that I am more of an armchair critic than a regular gamer

 

How were you selected? Was there a signup?

 

Yeah think so, but not quite sure : / I have been playing BFBC2 since release and i am also a member of Origin since release. But i also signed up on their website i THINK, im not sure though... all i know is i got an email and im now downloading the 2 gb file that is the alpha : )

 

Let us know how it goes. There was a video here, it was pretty awesome: ‪Battlefield 3 - Multiplayer Gameplay HD 1080p montage‬‏ - YouTube

 

I will! I probably wont be doing anything fancy like a montage, ill just be recording some different games with different weapons and then upload it to youtube as unlisted : ) But for now guys ima go to sleep, and let the game download. Ill report back in tomorrow gmt +1 time : ) And answer any questions if you have

EDIT: Phistachio just told me that you can get a 175£ fine for uploading it to youtube, so i will not be doing that. But im still going to answer any questions you have!

 

I could run Bad Company 2 well enough at the higher settings at 1080p with my previous ASUS G51j-A1 (i7-720 + GTX 260M), so I'm sure he'll be able to handle the game.

 

this doesnt make sense. Although you could try to disable the AMD AI in the CC panel.

 

The_Happy_Swede, here are some questions!

1) How does it play on your hardware and what setting are you playing at?
2) Can the APC's run over objects, like lampposts and fences, or are those indestructible?
3) How's the hit registration/net code?
4) Is there in-game VOIP or anything that would indicate in-game communication?
5) Does the destruction seem scripted or does it react according to the type/amount of damage inflicted?
6) How many people can fit in the APC and is there a secondary gunner's spot?
7) How similar is the gameplay to BFBC2?

Thanks in advance!

 

Wow! My laptop is going to cry when I buy that game!

Lets hope BF3 is awesome. I was already disappointed by Dead Island gameplay, but this looks pretty good.

 

most importantly if you are going to play multiplayer let us know about the bullet damage! do we still have to shoot a whole magazine from a sub machine gun straight into an enemy's body in order to put him down?

can u kill with 2-3 bullets that are Not aimed at the head?

The AK74u which is supposedly the gun with highest damage in the Engineering kit (BFBC2) is ridiculously ineffective. I really dont have to shoot people in the head to kill them or spray them with 30 bullets to drop them down. This is my only complaint on battlefield games. Hope it's more realistic in BF3.

(even with the exra damage perk!)

 

the "unload a whole magazine" is actually the poor netcode in bfbc2, there are times where you can swear you headshot a guy twice and he's still alive. I would hope that they've fixed it for bf3 since that was probably the biggest complaint for all of bfbc2.

 

Yes. BFBC2 thought it's hit or miss, literally. One game I'll be racking up kills and connecting like I should. Next game on same server, I've got rubber bullets. It's quite frustrating.

 

Are you talking about normal or hardcore servers? Just started playing BC2 again and people drop pretty damn fast in hardcore more.

 

if u have a much lower ping than the other players your bullets will synch properly with the server and "serve" their purpose well. add to that the level of realism of the hardcore mode so ya u should be able to drop them fast.

but still most of the time you manage to hit them multiple times (with the hitmark on the crosshair showing) and they dont die and some other times, which is even more frustrating, you aim right at them but the hitmark doesnt appear its like rubber bullets like our friend mentioned it.

so it is a server synch issue AND a low bullet damage configuration hardwired into the game.

This is what gives COD the advantage in multiplayer, you CAN actually kill an enemy with 2-3 non headshots. I do not intend to instigate a COD vs BF debate here, just comparing the bullet mechanics. I love both games.

What REALLY bothers me is the weak sniping in BF. most cases you need 2-3 bullets to take him down even if you hit his torso. I do understand if they dont want to increase bullet damage for medium to short range weapons but a sniper rifle IS a SNIPER rifle; one shot one kill just like they configured the shotgun. And it doesnt have to be a headshot!!

these same bullet mechanics have been running through all BF 2 games up till BFBC2. Hope they are better optimized in BF3 and not just reproduced.