Brace yourself: NEW MAXWELL CARDS INCOMING!

Video cardz isn't exactly the greatest either everyone keeps taking things Cloudfire says and spreading them.

We will just have to wait and see what happens. NVidia holding off their top card til AMD puts their cards on the table wouldn't surprise me.

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There is a lot of stuff you don`t know about Videocardz Ethrem.
Lets just say they have some really good contacts in the industry without revealing any more

I had no part in the GTX 880 launch month article. They learned that from their contacts who recieved a summon to participate in the September event.
Retail boxes, NDA information about new tech, press information etc, they are pretty good at posting stuff like that

But not everything they post are from those sources, so they do have some miss now and then.

 

Nah, honestly I believe we will see a high performance Maxwell desktop part very soon I just had to point out how easy it is to dig up articles that counter every rumor.

I'm not as sold in 980M rumors but desktop is inevitable.

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980M rumors are a but sketchy , but again they are rumors , but hopefully next week we should know alot more

 

I was planning on buying an Asus N550JK with 850M. Should I wait till the 900 series comes out guys?

 

Yes, you should.

 

Since lower end Maxwell stuff is out the wild it's not completely crazy to assume higher end parts are on the way at some point in the near future.. How near.. No one knows but nvidia..

 

No you shouldn't that notebook haven't even been released yet

Aside there is no 900m series coming with different GPUs for the mid range low end. There has not been enough time since the release

 

I am actually glad I didn't wait and got my laptop with an 880M. I have been using it for 4 months now.

 

I'm guessing since the 850m and 860m that are already Maxwell and were just released in March/April that if they do indeed have a 950m/960m with the release of the upper end Maxwell cards early in the 900 series release that it would just be a minor clock bump over the current ones, which is easily done with the 800 series with software and/or a vbios mod. Although my 860m is a little on the lower side on what most people seem to be able to overclock one to, it still does decent in overclocking terms running just at 20% OC on the GPU but only about 5% OC on the memory. Others have reported better numbers though.

 

Been reading all of these posts on my phone since day one, Had to Chime in.


I regret and don't regret purchasing my gtx 880m laptop, Though the modified vbios has been giving me the BSOD twice a day for several months now =(.

I don't regret buying it because it was my first gaming pc. Huge leap from the console world. Playing Crysis 3 and other previous games maxed out has been amazing on my big screen tv.

I regret getting the 880m because of crazy heat issues after the vbios. with ic diamond and copper cooling upgrades, a full load can put me at 94c for the temperature with fans on max. I regret not getting SLI too.

Main regret now is the possibility of the 980m coming out this year.

Either way, if it does, I'm going to upgrade and get the 980m Sli.

My only question is, will there be 4k monitors for laptops? I know a few companies have already released them but bad specs for gaming. Funny how the msi 3k laptop doesn't have the option for SLI. gtx 880m sli would be better on that.

Anyways if there isn't a 4k laptop screen that would come with 980m SLI's, then whats the point of getting these cards at only 1080p?

 

Supersampling/external monitor?

 

Max settings at 120 Hz.

Benchmarking. E-peen.

 

im waiting for cloudfire to come out with maxwell/tonga 20nm news anyday now

 

A quick aside to the thread topic: Blue Screens likely due to not enough voltage to keep your 993Mhz stable (you're using the svl7 modded vBIOS). More voltage likely required in your case, but your temperatures are too high for that, and likely too high for even your stock voltage and 993Mhz, given your 94degC tempearature. I think you should underclock your GPU and undervolt a little too to get reasonable temperatures and greater stability. This way you might avoid Blue Screens & high temperatures. It sucks though, because it's not really a solution, it's a work around.

 

I had to do this until I addressed my cooling issues.

 

It is bloody difficult to have enough GPU power to drive 3K or 4K LCDs. That is the reason 4K laptops are uncommon (not to mention a scarcity of suitable LCD panels). Your biggest issues with driving 4K is memory bandwidth in addition to GPU rendering power, as far as I know, there hasn't been a massive improvement with laptop VRAM bandwidth so far because of the 256bit Bus limitations.
That being said, I've witnessed even 3 x AMD 290X watercooled setups struggle with 4K games. To make matters worse, NVIDIA's current Kepler cards simply weren't optimized for 4K operation, Maxwell will improve tremendously on this aspect but it will be a long time before we see satisfactory Laptop GPUs driving 4K.

I can see 3K becoming more popular but not 4K for the time being.

 

I agree. But with the high pixel density of 4K screens in 17" and below screen sizes, the pixel density is so high that they scale resolution very well with games. But desktop is still another story. Windows 9 better improve on that aspect because currently having a 4K display is a futile experience when using a Windows desktop. Fonts don't always scale properly. Not to mention games that are set to full screen run in a letterbox format if run at a lower resolution in many cases, at least with the Optimus or Intel GPU driven laptops I've used. It may be an Intel issue though and how the drivers interpret the scaling.

In any case 3k/4k sound nice, but for gaming and Windows desktop as it is today, forget it.

 

Lol I want alteast 3K , I would watch movies and TV shows at max rez but probably only 1080p when playing games. For the windows desktop issue , I'll probably modify the registry for a larger scale or use a third party app .

 

i cant barely see text if i use 1080p on a 18inch screen sitting half a meter away.. i use 900 p lol

 

I can use 1080p during windows, but I want higher res than 1080p during gaming. Downsampling works but its a hassle to enable, sometimes it doesnt work, and its more demanding than native res which also looks better.

Fingers crossed that we see high res on 17/18 display this year but Im not holding my breath

 

In my opinion 1440p would be the ideal match for a 17.3" SLI 980M laptop. That's what I will likely be getting if the option becomes available. 1080p would still be a fine match though. Gaming at native resolution is the #1 priority for me.

 

1080p 120hz tn or 1440p 60hz ips are ideal for sli IMO.

 

so from the graphs i read or i thought i read right a 870mx will compete with the old 880?

 

I just bought a GTX 870M laptop. Wrong decision?

 

Who knows? It's not like we are even sure new 900M are coming this year.

Well, you should've at least waited until Nvidia's announcement at Gamescon.

 

I know right? DPI scaling isn't an option because fonts become distorted. I tried 125% (default) for a week and was so disgusted that I'd rather use 100% scaling and push my nose against the LCD than use 125% ever again lol. 900p wasn't a viable alternative either since the blurriness killed me.

 

No. . I've been running everything at 1080p (sometimes up to 1800p) everything runs great.

 

Depends. Plan to use that notebook for a long time? If yes, then horrible timing on your part.
GTX 870M and GTX 880M are hot, old and outdated and ready to replaced by something much faster and cooler.

 

I've had a laptop with 1080p 15.6" in the past and had no trouble reading it... with my glasses on. Without them and it is another story entirely!

 

Well that sucks, i'm even thinking of cancelling the order... But what if they release the 8xxMX models by Q4' 14 and some kind of second wave Maxwell's 9xxM series by Q2' 15? It's going to become a neverending wait?

 

The key here is to buy GM204 GPUs when they come out. Wether they are GTX 870MX, GTX 970M or GTX 980M. These graphic cards are probably here to stay for 2 years before replaced by a new architecture.
They should run cooler and be a lot faster than current cards. Great for less noisy notebook, more performance and great overclocking if you ever need that.
GTX 870M/880M are both high clocked 2.5 year Keplers that run hot and doesnt have much room for overclocking and is about to be replaced.

But be prepared to wait 1-2 more months before you get a notebook with GM204

 

This same story plays itself out all the time. I bought my 675M when Kepler was imminent and I used it happily for 2 years. Now everyone's up in arms about Maxwell and Kepler all the sudden is pure garbage (nonsense). Of course if you wait something better will always be around the corner. Wait all your life.

 

Here's the deal: I'm from Brazil, exchange student. They give me 1K USD to buy a laptop, the notebook i ordered was $1409,00. I'll stay 1 year in the US and i'm thinking of purchasing yet another notebook when i'm close to leave (about July-August 15'). My intention is to bring a good laptop when i come back to endure some years since gaming pc's are very expensive here in Brazil. Selling this notebook i've ordered next year when my return is near in order to buy a new one (probbly with a 9xxM series) it's a bad idea?

 

No one can possibly know if it's a bad idea to sell it to get a new one. WIll anyone want it, will it be worth what you think it's worth, do you care how much you get for it? How long will it take you to sell it? How much will notebooks cost with what GPU's at that time?

No one knows it's a year away...

 

Ok, i'll stick with the order. Who knows if next month i'll be alive?

 

Hey, I bought a P157SM with 870M in June, and now the rumors say some new and powerful graphics chips are coming out soon from both Nvidia and AMD.
Although the 870M is nothing fancy (I know. It's almost the maximum level that the 3-year-old Kelper can go for) compared to the new Nvidia Maxwell or the AMD Tonga, I don't regret buying it. At least I enjoyed the gaming experience with the 870M in the last few months.
And I am glad that I went for the 870M instead of the 880M which costs a lot more and doesn't run well. What I am planning is to upgrade my GPU to 980M when it comes out and everything has been stabilised (in terms of driver and vbios).

Besides, I read some posts here at NBR saying MXM 3.0 has reached the end of its service life and the last generation of graphics card using it will be the Maxwell. And the Pascal will be using a new technology instead of the MXM 3.0. Can someone please tell me more about this? If MXM 3.0 is no longer being used after the Maxwell, what will be the next? MXM 4.0 or a brand-new type of connection? Thanks in advance.

 

Nope, BSOD happens even when computer is idling and the gpu isnt being used. Not even the computer place in town could find out why or fix it.


and I think that sli 980m could do most games at 4k. There's been debate that 200 percent resolution scale in bf4 is 4k or not, but either way, 880m sli's are able to do that at like 45fps on average.

Most bench marks online for 4k involve 4x anti aliasing. At 4k on a small laptop screen, aa isnt really needed. I'm on a 15 inch laptop and i play a lot of games with aa off and rarely notice any difference when playing in fast action games. I only turn aa on if it's an older game and my gpu can handle it with ease.

so if 880m sli can play bf4 with no aa at 45fps at 4k, then im sure 980m sli can do way better. Plus, higher end games dont look TOO much difference between ultra and high settings. I'm sure most people would rather play a game at 4k and high settings than a game at 1080p and ultra settings

 

Kepler isn't garbage, just that it's reached the edge of it's limit, so can't be pushed any further. See what's happened to 880m, it can't even run at boost clocks, some not even at stock clocks. Users that bought a 680m and stuck with it got the best end of the bargain. It can perform as good as if not better than a stock 780m, and it's 2.5 year old tech, reaching 3 by the time Maxwell top end cards end up in user's hands, and can compete with the latest GPU's.

I agree you can wait forever, or you can make an educated decision. If you *need* a laptop now, then of course, get what you can afford now. But on the other hand if you just *want* to upgrade for the sake of something faster, even if the machine you have can barrel along just fine, I think it's sound advice to wait it out a few more months. At minimum you'll get a card that performs the same, but runs much cooler. Likely you'll get a card that performs 20-30% better and runs much cooler.

 

This is my first gaming laptop. I don't *need* right now but i'm travelling to the US without any notebook so it's tough to be without PC for undetermined time...

 

I agree, Kelper isn't garbage. Owning the 880M does take dedication to get it to run correctly. It IS possible. My everyday core clock is set at 1058. During gaming I see about 77c max just sitting on my desk. Stock vbios and voltage won't get it to run at that speed. Extra attention to the cooling system is a must.

 

Must be nice running the cooling system like a leaf blower

 

I remember that he did do some cooling mods: sanding the heatsink flat, blocking off areas to the sides of the heatsink fins so that air is channelled efficiently through the fins without escaping to the side, and I think some extra intake holes where the fan is. (that's if I remember rightly! So maybe it doesn't sound like a leaf blower, but having said that I imagine the fans would be running at max at that point!)

 

Ergh, each time I read about this kind of thing I get depressed. My GTX 780M gets into the 90's (even at stock) nomatter what I do. I've tried numerous repastes and aluminium tape etc. It looked like it worked. Then I found out it was all just due to the fact it was winter. As soon as this summer hit, temps went right back to where they were when I first bought this laptop.

So yeah... definitely priority number 1 is to buy the notebook with the best cooling this time around!

 

If I run the fans on auto it gets into the low 80's.

 

You are correct sir. I generally do run the fans at max while gaming.

 

Low 80s at that clock speed... damn.

 

It took the nodded vbios, cooling mods and lots of testing to get there.

Stock my 880M would run up to 93c while gaming and throttle like a biatch. I say this so people know that there is no magic here. Sadly, in Stock form my 880M in the Sager NP8278 chassis ran very hot.

 

That's crazy.

 

what kind of improvements are we looking at here for the new generation 800m's? 5% faster and a little bit cooler? Nvidia better fix their old 880m's or that company will be a disgrace in my books. 980's to come out in q2 of 2015? I'll stick with 880m sli for 3-4 years and upgrade then, it will be able to play any game on the market for quite some time. NP9570 is quite capable of cooling the 880m's