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@deadsmiley

You got the modded vbios and upped the voltage just a little bit, and it's stable? What drivers are you using?

Thanks!

 

Where on earth do you guys get the Q1/Q2 2015 from?

 

Well, i got it from the fact that the 880m was just released in MARCH 2014. I don't think nvidia would release a new chip 7-8 months later, that seems really ridiculous and implausible to me. 780m-880m was 10 months though. But that was the same architecture.

 

You mean we are still on for my q1 prediction?

 

late Q1 seems the most logical to me. If not then hey thats fine too. 880m release march, 980m release september, 1080m release in february 2015 2080m release Q1 2016

 

880M just isn't selling. And most of them are being returned for issues.

Its only recently that we are seeing 880M cards that aren't total garbage so it may have been a manufacturing issue. My 880Ms, for example, the master ran 1.012v for 3D and the slave 1v. I recently saw 880Ms running .968v @ 954MHz which tells me that they binned the newer cards better which also explains the lower temps.

 

The 780M and 880M are the same card. It's not considered a new product line. Maxwell is. So, a "new chip" technically isn't accurate - it's the same chip with a different name.

 

The same goes to 680M to 780M. Still, they had about 1 year between them.

 

Cakefish, you and I have virtually identical systems. For a few hours of your time and very little money you can have a cool running system. I didn't do this on my own. Much of what I did I picked up from threads about hot running Clevo's at Tech Inferno. See my post here.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...pu-cooling-mod-np8278-p170ms.html#post9704896

Sorry about the offtopic posts. I want to help people because I know how frustrating it is to have some really nice hardware that simply doesn't run correctly out of the box.

 

That's not true. The 780M has more CUDA cores. It's subtle, but it's different.

The 880M is literally an exact copy of the 780M with a boost in clock speed and extra vRAM.

 

Do you guys think desktops and laptops version would be released at the same time or close to each other? I'm in the market to buy a new laptop soon and desktop GFX, currently using a 580 GTX in my desktop.

 

Hey read on some rumor site that you "Cloudfire" are sure or have seen(don't exactly remember), the 900m series equipped laptop are gonna release in October,2014.

Fact or Myth?

 

Lol you guys, I don't think anyone else is dieing more for a laptop than myself and this old rusty GT555m. Dx

 

Sounds like your heatsink is very, very warped. As Deadsmiley suggested, first order of business is to sand it flat, and then proceed from there.

You may also want to check out my modding thread (link in sig), especially my cut out U3 with 3x120mm fans. It makes a huge difference -- I can now play Far Cry 3 for hours on end in a 25C room without either 780M running past 77C, and this with auto fans.

 

Dude you have no idea what I am going through. I have been playing the wait game for the last 3-4 months. But now I think we are just there, just hang in there.

 

Yes, modded vbios. It is very stable. I am running 327.23 drivers. Voltage is at 1.025v.

 

Right. 780m has more CUDA cores (1344 vs 1536), faster core speed (720 vs 850MHz) and much faster vRAM (3600 vs 5000). That was a credible upgrade. But 880m barely performs better than the 780m if at all and they are basically the same thing.

 

Yeah, that was my point. I don't like what they've done. I think it was a mistake.

 

I`ve heard enough to say it will come in October. From several unnamed sources.
September is when Nvidia will present new Maxwell cards for the press and public. Many people have recieved invitation and the best part of it, is that it will have a live stream which we can follow. Basically a huge important event.

Hint: GTX 750 Ti which was the first Maxwell GPU was presented in late February this year. 800M graphic cards which was based on the same chip, was available in March.

Earlier on previous architectures it took several months after desktop cards before we saw mobile chips based on the same chip.
But as Anandtech explains about Maxwell:

You can find mobile GM204 mentioned several times at Zauba. 35 GM204 chips was shipped June 26th from TSMC, to desktop and notebook OEMs. I am 99.9% sure some OEMs are testing the GTX 980M as I write this today.

There is a reason why Nvidia added driver support for mobile GM204 (the first post in this thread). The notebook OEMs (MSI, Clevo, Asus etc) need to test the cards...

 

I really hope Clevo makes a refresh of the W230SS soon with a 900 series Maxwell, although my gut tells me that 860M being Maxwell already means there won't be any updates until 20nm or 16nm. Choices choices choices...

 

8GB on a mobile card is really ridiculous. I was right at pulling the trigger on the NP9380 (SLI 780M) when they were no longer available. Otherwise I would have had that. I didn't like the looks of the new model (not professional enough) so I got the NP8278 instead.

 

Mid-level cards will very likely be rebrands with possibly slight clock speed bumps, maybe more vRAM because it seems to be the popular marketing thing to do. The big addition will be the top end cards to replace 870m and 880m.

 

Yeah that's kinda what I was thinking. Maybe more mature silicon so better efficiency and lower temps? (or another 880M style disaster )

Hmm, maybe now isn't such a bad time to snag a W230SS.

 

There should be 2-3 GM204 GPUs coming.
The rest should be rebadges based on GM108 and GM107.

GM206 will eventually be released, but I dont think its ready for October or even this year.

My own speculation on what could happen. Not confirmed or anything:

October:
GT 930M: GM108
GT 940M - GM108/GM107
GTX 970M: GM204
GTX 980M: GM204

2015:
GTX 960M: GM206
GTX 965M: GM206
GTX 975M: GM204
GTX 985M: GM204

 

Dude, with all that info....
I trust you man...and your sources

 

850m/860m rebranded as 940m? not going to happen

 

I didnt say GT 940M = GTX 850M.
I said the two might use the same chip but the 940M with less cores.

GT 840M and GTX 850M does that as well. There should exist GT 840M both with GM108 and with GM107 if I remember right.

 

That's a lot to expect from a company that has hardly done anything for the past two years, lol. Hell, none of them have done much but re-brand and experiment. I suppose I'm stuck in the same hope-boat as you, though.

 

So for you 940m is GM107 with less cores, so the full GM107? i think you forget about it

 

Many possibilities here but this could happen

October:
GT 930M: GM108
GT 940M - GM108/GM107
GTX 950M: GM107
GTX 960M: GM107
GTX 975M: GM204
GTX 980M: GM204

2015:
GTX 965M: GM206
GTX 970M: GM206
GTX 985M: GM204

Maybe not all of these listed under October but close to it atleast

 

985M? Interesting. You expecting a GTX 780 (aka. 980M) and 780Ti (aka. 985M) type thing but in mobile this time? That would be very cool.

 

Yeah I expect they to deliver a cut down GM204 this year aka GTX 980M. Then follow with a full GM204 next year.

Like GTX 680M and GTX 780M

 

Would be nice if 980M comes out October

 

I don't see 960M designation being wasted on a rebrand, even though history says to expect it..

 

Unless they add cores or shrink to 20nm, both of which are highly unlikely, I don't see it being anything other than a speed bumped rebrand.

 

does the 870m have the same throttling issues like the 880m has?

 

No, it doesn't. And in fact, it can be OC'd a bit as well.

 

A Taiwan website has posted something saying they received an anonymous email this afternoon about the benchmarks of GTX 870.
滄者極限 - NVIDIA GTX 870 測試分數、規æ¼æ›å…‰

The website says the GTX 870 scored similar to GTX780, and used much less power than GTX780 (almost 100W less).

 

I'm going to laugh my off if my prediction for 870 this year and 880 for Q1 turns out true. Seriously gonna laugh so hard they'll have to commit me.

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100W less than GTX 780 is around 130W-140W. Reduce the core voltage slightly and whoila, you end up with a 100W GTX 980M.

If you notice the 3DMark11 Extreme score for GTX 870 its X4625. GTX 980M was rumored X4500.
In 3DMark11, GTX 870 score 55% more than GTX 880M, which is in line with the +50-60% which GTX 980M should see over GTX 880M.

A final kicker is that Nvidia managed to squeeze GTX 670 TDP down from 170W to GTX 680M TDP of 100W, while having identical specs. With Maxwell, they only need to go down from 130-140W to 100W. Which makes me believe that GTX 980M might be based on GTX 880 instead of GTX 870. Which means more cores than this.
Im also not completely sold on the core specs GPU-z is reporting for the chip. We will see

Where are you now you "X4500 with 980M, no way in hell thats possible" people?

Benchmarks, GPU-z screenshot, everything is falling in place for a GM204 launch soon.

 

Wait so the 980m will come out before the 880gtx even comes out? How does this work

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Those are just names , like Robert but you can call him Bob , what matters is the chips ie. Gm204 , if they were releasing gm204 on laptop before desktop which releases with gk204 then yes that would be messed up.

Edit: they are most likely all gonna be announced around the same time.

 

GTX 880 and GTX 870 and perhaps GTX 860 launch alone, then followed by GTX 980M couple of weeks after.
Or they all launch at the same time as GTX 980M I think.

I hope its the last one. 900M and desktop 800 graphic cards all presented in September during Nvidia`s major press event. Fingers crossed

 

Wasn't gamescon supposedly the announcement date for the 880?

 

The guy who leaked the GTX 880 benchmark mentioned Gamescom yes.
God knows what he meant about it. Perhaps Nvidia is only showing the chip in a secret meeting with a select few there? Perhaps we will see a sneak peek. I have no idea.

 

I don't care about rumors... I just want them to hurry up and drop new cards...

If the 980M proves to be 50-60% faster than the 880M would be when its working right (which would mean its going to be around 75-80% of what I have been getting in 880M SLI, maybe even slightly more) I could do just fine with one card for now and upgrade to a second in a year or so. That's a huge money savings compared to my plans to buy a barebones 9570 and move everything into it and sell my 4940MX.

 

I want to buy Alienware 18 again, but with GTX 980M SLI.
But Im beginning to wonder what to do with them if Alienware continues with 1080p display lol.

Should max out pretty much any game out there, with tons of AA/MSAA enabled. Perhaps just do downsampling on higher res than 1080p. Games looks gorgeous then too
Luxury problem lol

 

I considered buying the base AW18 on Amazon for 1800 and gutting it and swapping the parts from my Clevo into the Alienware and selling the lower spec'd Clevo to recover a grand or so of that purchase.

The only thing that sucks is no dual PSU support means limited overclocking later whereas if I mod the hell out of my Clevo, I can fix the issues it has with cooling AND have dual PSU support later on. Its frustrating.

Either way, if my 880Ms come back and they still don't work properly, I'll be doing *something* with it.

 

Will you see how well they blend ?

 

I love my Vitamix too much to destroy it on such crappy cards. 880M smoothie does not sound appetizing.