Brace yourself: NEW MAXWELL CARDS INCOMING!

Maybe so; I was thinking though that I remember the 680 came with uhh... "too much" power attached to it, and that it was able to be overclocked like crazy without much overvolting. So that may be a reason XD. Either way, you're right, it's soon to go kaput. And I'm kind of glad, I wanna see some GOOD high end and midrange cards come out. The 800M series (aside from 880M) is the first series where I've felt like there were significant power steps all down the chain. The 670MX and 675MX were a joke, and the 770M while a nice improvement was still exceedingly weak all things considered. The 860M 2GB, 870M and 880M are all in good power ratios.

 

970M SLI may be a great combination for the price, if 870M SLI pricing carries over.

Can't wait until some of you get your hands on a system with these cards. I want to see what they can do.

 

It could be lower since maxwell was suppose to be cheaper than kepler but you never know.

 

That would be great.

 

Lol it would be great but it might be more expensive or the same if the mobile parts are 20 nm , in 3 weeks we should know everything

 

I'm still a GK104 fan, been a very good chip! Go the 970M sli rather than a single 980M though - better performance, plus you'd likely be able to overclock those chips all the way up to 100W performance level I would wager.

 

670MX & 675MX were by no means a joke, they were just run with low clocks, they run the same or better than overclocked 770M when users overclock them with modded vBIOS (although I do admit the performance at stock is not impressive - but they ran as cool as a proverbial cucumber at stock!)

 

770M weak? HOW DARE YOU????!!!
lol no seriously, I bought them because of the power/temperature ratio. I`m a bit coward that way. But they have performed excellent for my usage although I do need better cards now.

Yeah, fun to play around with these mid high end chips too.
Wouldnt surprise me if a 970M beats a 880M by a fair margin so I`m very excited to see what it can do.

Yeah I agree, but the choice is between 970M SLI or 980M SLI if I buy a new AW18
Still feel tempted about going the 980M SLI route and counting on downvolting them to remove some heat. Or maybe they will run pretty cool anyway?

Who knows, exciting

Maybe there was a reason why they moved desktop to 900 series as well...Maybe they are all 20nm...

 

Well...for maximum excitement get the 980M sli of course! ;-)

 

I more meant that compared to the current lineup and the Fermi lineups (460M, 470M, 485M & 560M, 570M, 580M) as well as the current Kepler lineup (m860M, k860M, 870M, 880M) that the 660M, 670MX, 675MX, 680M and 765M, 770M, 780M lineups, the difference in power between the flagships and the next cards down were just... insane. Like, I could *EASILY* suggest to someone right now SLI 870Ms over 880M, or to a pure gamer 870M over 880M just to avoid overheating issues; but telling someone 770M would give them something close to a 780M would just be evil. And considering the 770M, I would not have considered the potential downsides of SLI as being worth it for a card like that.

I wasn't really talking about the potential of the cards as such. But the same thing happened with the desktop lineup; the 670 and 680 were so close in power that a lot of people flat out ignored the 680, and the 660Ti was so similar to the 670 (memory bandwidth being the only real difference) that people didn't have much of a reason to go outside of midrange. You could buy two 660Tis back then for ~$50-100 more than 1 good 680 would cost, and far outstrip the performance. NOW it's a different story; they power gaps are more pronounced while still being good cards, both desktop and mobile.

Sorry if I came across as saying they were worthless XD. I do indeed bet they were cool as cucumbers; especially if using a 680M-esque heatsink

 

Yep, that's because the 880M hardly counts as a new or different card, so small performance gaps with the 800 series at the top. I suppose it's good to have those fine graduations of performance & price from the top down - means you can fine tune your purchase to suit your needs. Praps the same small graduations will hold true for the 900 series too - think it was postulated in this thread that there wouldn't be a massive difference between 970M & 980M.

 

That's kind of what I am hoping for. I want some good choice and the enthusiast cards should still be the ENTHUSIAST cards =D

 

For once, I was thinking of upgrading my 870M to a 880M.

But since 880M has so many problems and 980M is coming soon (with a huge performance, power and heat improvement), I decided to stay with what I have now. So far, my 870M has been performing so well. No problem at all with the games I play.

This saves me alomst $500. And I will pay the money for the 980M!

 

Upgrading GPUs only makes sense when you're getting a 2x leap in performance.

 

Cloud, do you need or even care about mobility at all? Because after 9 months of using my Clevo I realized I don't need mobility, so I'm really looking forward to get back into the desktop scene after a 10 year hiatus, mainly for much easier GPU upgrades, as well as more powerful CPUs. Upgrading laptop GPUs can become a very expensive deal.

(totally off topic but: reading some of the Haswell-E reviews has totally strengthened my resolve to stick with X79 for now)

 

Will see how powerful the 980M will be

And if my 870M runs GTA V with no problem, I don't think I will go for the upgrade though.

 

Well, honestly, I don't agree with upgrading to $700+ GPUs at all. Better to put that toward an entirely new laptop which contains the newest GPU you want.

I don't judge people for doing it, but it isn't for me.

 

Depends how much money the person has in the machine.

For me personally it makes more sense to upgrade than to sell my current machine at a crazy loss and buy new. But if I didn't have to spend the money I spent on this machine anyway, I never would have gotten the maxed out build that I have. I would have gone 4810mq, 16GB, one 240GB msata boot, 1 TB storage drive, and 870M SLI. Would have been much much cheaper.

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I actually have a 780ti sli desktop, so there is really no reason for me to upgrade to a 980m and I probably won't. The 880gtx is supposed to be a small performance increase over the 780ti so I will continue to wait for the next generation before I upgrade probably.

 

This is kind of my thinking as well. My 880s @ 849MHz run everything I need them to and if I have to go back to the desktop for some games, well my 780 Ti is more than capable and I can always pick up a second one in early 2015 when they start liquidating the stock to prepare for GM200.

It would still be cheaper for me to grab a second 780 Ti now than it would be to replace my cards, probably with enough left over to buy a proper monitor instead of using my TV.

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damn nvidia and amd get those products out already waited forever.

 

Ouch, TV? That would be my first thing to work on too.

 

Its just space constraints man. My W802a is not a bad TV for gaming (it's actually THE gaming TV with some of the lowest input lag ever measured which is why I bought it) but that's literally all I can do on it without killing my eyes fast.

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well i created this account just to say i'll buy new laptop with 980m

upgrading from.. check this out now:

2.0 ghz dualcore P7350
4gb DDR2 800mhz
500GB 5400 (some hard drive, i think it's toshibas MSX)
radeon 4650 mobility

it's a toshiba A-500 laptop.

anyway my question is: any ETA for Asus G series with 980m?

 

Umm what? Can't you put that into a savings account or something? Are you trying to launder money?

 

Disability back pay. No you can not.

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So if you don't spend it, that money is lost forever? Just WUT

 

No if you don't spend it, you get raped on medical until you spend it down. I would have lost my Medicaid because Medicaid is a needs based program. Having money disqualifies you from Medicaid and I did the math and if I chose to save the money, I wouldn't be able to make ends meet in 5 months because of how much my medical would cost. It wasn't worth having money in the bank because it wouldn't even stay there.

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That is one seriously cow-like way to keep things running. But I understand your decision; I would have done the same I bet.

 

Can't you just buy cash equivalents instead of actual merchandise? Sorry for the OT.

 

That will undoubtly be a sick upgrade. Like night and day.
Not sure how you could live with that notebook for so long though, because surely you cant have played many "modern" games

There are rumors about a Asus G760 coming with 980M in October

Truth be told I mostly dont need the mobility at all. But for the times I do, I will ne screwed if I go with desktop.

You are right, a ton of tempting things on the desktop side I really miss.

3-4 years between each upgrade? You got patoence son.
(GTX 680M was 50-60% faster than 580M. GTX 880M still isnt quite 2x as fast)

 

D900F with 6GB 1066MHz RAM and 280M to machine in my sig. I think I made the biggest upgrade possible in the mobile market.

 

although 880m just came out not too long ago all this seems just too good to be true.

there is one good reason they may release 900m series card though, for majority dummies who are new to GPU grounds, maybe thinking nvidia is 100 less in number than AMD, for double the cost so they go for AMD instead LOL. that would be a valid thing just to up their GPU line up, who knows.

 

Of course the rumor mill is in full swing right as i'm gearing up to buy a laptop with either an 870M or 880M. I wonder if we really will see new parts in October?

 

They *WILL* be releasing maxwell soon. It's been long overdue I think.

 

hehe, i bet it will

i've lived with this notebook long enough. it served me well. last "modern" game i played was tomb raider. i've maxed all out except for tessellation, which was grey, so i guess my game used dx9 mode.

still beautifully looked, and worked good. was playable with drops here and there, and i've completed the game. (it was on 1366x768 res. )

 

Don´t complain, your 4650 is like twice my 9650m ddr2 XD

 

I have checked around.
This listing is 100% legit. GS60 2PE have GTX 870M. GS60 2QE have GTX 970M.
Its also listed at some sort of list from MSI
So it is therefor confirmed, GTX 970M will indeed come with 3GB GDDR5 and have a 192bit bus.




Im also postive GT72 with the GTX 980M will have the (GT72 2QE) codename, so its only a matter of time before it hits some retailer somwhere.

 

That's so awesome, but for the love of god let there be a black model also. So based on that, do you think GS70 Stealth Pro will come out with a revised 970m model too?

I hope Aorus comes out with a revised 970m SLI version and we don't have to wait 4-6 months down the road. If so, I might be not be patient enough hold out until then even though I should for Broadwell.

Speaking of Broadwell, do you guys think it will be a huge improvement to wait for it? I can wait a month or two but not sure if I'm patient enough to wait until next year or not.

 

GS70 have GTX 870M. It should just like the GS60 have GTX 970M as well.
The notebook above is the gold edition. They make both black and gold so no worries.

Broadwell is useless. Dont wait for it. It should be like 5% faster than Haswell. Plus whatever extra clocks they managed to put on the chip.
I`m buying mine when the 900M cards are available through resellers and Dell. Intel can keep their graphic chips (it really have become that :/)

 

Sweet, thanks for the tip. Looks like I'll be getting a new slim gaming laptop with a 970m then.

 

And who knows, maybe Aorus will feature 970M SLI. It will be vastly better than 860M and should run cooler too.
But that will be what, 3 versions in 1 year? Oh well, atleast they are keeping up with newest hardware

 

I'm getting a 980m down the course for sure. On the GT60 (780m) I surely need it. I'm getting max 87°C on the GPU for now. Even if performance increase is small (which I doubt since with a new architecture also do come further driver optimisations), having the same performance on a less hot running card or higher performance on comparable temps are great feats on their own, let alone both at the same time
Can't sell my notebook right now as I'd have to wait until my cousin comes from the states (december would be too far away), so my only option would be sourcing a card and upgrading (selling the 780m first).
I'm keeping an eye on maxwell's unfolding

 

I'm hoping to see an Aorus X7 v3 970M SLI ASAP since I've been wasting $$$ in upgrading every yr to every other year and would like to keep it for at least 3 yrs or longer until the next new architect is released.

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I can't wait until we start seeing GPU-Z leaks and benchmarks. We're so close, I can almost taste it, lol.

 

I just got (2) 780 Ti, I'm impatient but I'll upgrade eventually (when these can't run games at 60 FPS on Ultra). There's always something new coming out in the horizon, you just have to pick one and be happy with it. I'll be following these new cards very closely though.

 

I found more.

GS70 with GTX 970M will be called GS70 2QE.
GS70 with GTX 870M is called GS70 2PE



So we know GS series (GS60&GS70) will get the GTX 970M.

 

If no new models are released between now and Maxwell I think my choice will boil down to MSI GT72 with single 980M or Alienware 18 with 980M SLI.

 

Performance is one thing, running cooler than previous generation is also very important. I agree with that. GT60 with its 1 fan would greatly benefit from a new architecture, no doubt about that.

We are def very close. Remember September 9th. Thats when the big Maxwell event will go down. Which we can stream and watch from home. yay

Absolutely true. I think there are moments that is the best though. For mobile it seems you should stick with the first high end cards of a new architecture until a new architecture comes out. GTX 680M was and still is a great card.
Ive seen that for desktops, GTX 780 is selling really cheap now on amazon because they make room for GTX 880, so for price, it may not be a bad choice to buy now anyway.

Yeah those two are def on my list too. And the rumored Asus G760.

 

If 980M is a true 100W (ie not 100W in name only) card then yes it should run cooler than 780M (110W) or 880M (125W wannabe fail). Otherwise 980M will run just as hot. (case in point 860M vs 765M)

If I were you, I'd return those 780Ti if that was an option and wait for the desktop 980. I mean it's literally like 3 weeks away from a paper launch, and promises more than 780Ti performance for under $500. I mean hell, if nVidia delivers 980 as promised then I'm going full throttle with my desktop build.