Brace yourself: NEW MAXWELL CARDS INCOMING!

Curious if it is possible to overclock 4710MH CPU on bins in BIOS. That would calm me down.

 

Some OEMs have started the countdown to when Maxwell will be presented. Only 10 days left


Inno3d teasing iChill GeForce 900 series | VideoCardz.com

 

I know this isn't new news to many in this thread but after finding the MSI product list (thanks to Cloudfire's referring to it getting me to go searching), I found the GS60 page. A GS60 with a 980M and those specs? My god, my wallet is doomed, but at the same time I am very much hyped. To think I nearly bought a GS60 a couple of months ago - I would have been kicking myself for years.

 

Holy *French word* that is my dream laptop, right there! 980M, high res screen in a thin(ish) & light(ish) chassis? I'm sold. If this is a legit laptop, it's my GUARANTEED purchase, nomatter the cost.

Well, perfect except for lack of SLI but I can look past that EASILY for such a sleek machine!

 

You're kidding me right Cakefish?!? Thought you wanted a premium laptop, and one that wouldn't burn your hands when you were using it!! How are you gonna get the full performance from a 980M 100W GPU in that thing!? Here's a review of the GS60:
MSI GS60 Ghost Pro 3K Edition (2PEWi716SR21) Notebook Review - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

 

I have just had confirmaton my 880GTX cards are going to be replaced with next gen cards! you have no idea how happy i am now!!!

 

Isn't one of the best things about Maxwell the fact that it makes slim gaming laptops far more viable? Even the 860M GS60s were Kepler.

 

Not really for the high performance Maxwell cards: they're probably still gonna be 100W GPUs (980M). But good performance per Watt nonetheless, and more true in what you say for the mid & lower end Maxwell models to come out. (But you're right in thinking you could get 50 - 80% more performance for whatever wattage you choose).

 

Awww hype deflating...

OK, I'll add a caveat. Guaranteed purchase IF they sort out the throttling/cooling issues.

 

Doubtful though right, it'll be the same basic chassis & fans right? I would guess so.

EDIT: don't get a silly little thin laptop if you want a decent GPU in it, along with the ability to overclock it with some decent temperatures, or even to run it stock at decent temperatures & no throttling. Also, MSI I'm not a fan of, they love grouping these laptops with piddly little 180W power adapters which aren't fit for purpose! MSI machines seem to just make too many compromises, they're not premium in my eyes. From reviews I've seen I would be a fan of Asus (if you're not fussed about upgrading GPUs later, could be close to the best), Alienware, and Clevo.

 

Yeah, I suppose that makes sense. Even if it's more efficient, the same wattage means the same problems. I guess we'll see how it turns out. I'm keeping an eye out on the Asus GX500 for any indication of a 980M version too. I'm still so hyped that it's going to require a bit of restraint to not just preorder something as soon as it's announced though.

Seriously though.. if any manufacturer manages to get those specs working at their full potential in something as portable as the GS60? All of my money.

 

TBH anything that comes out and is a better spec than the 880's will make me happy. i regret buying that laptop after the problems i have had!

 

Yeah, I suppose :/

Also, I notice a 150W power supply... nope, just nope.

 

I never had a laptop with 880s but I'm in a similar mindset just because I've had two types of laptop in the past - 1) High performance but incredibly bulky, 2) Lightweight and transportable but mediocre-at-best when it comes to gaming. I almost got the GS60 a little while ago because it seemed to take the best of both worlds and the drawbacks of none - at least that was until I discovered the issues with heating. If the 980m is a significant enough improvement on the previous generation to the point where it is able to make the heat worth the performance and transportability (the 880m did not reach this threshold), I'll likely end up upgrading.

Of course, I'm going to be looking around too. If another brand manages to deal with the heat/throttling issues decently, I'll be going with them.

 

Paper-launch ≄ in-stock (at least for the mobile cards we will need a bit more patience)

 

I thought QE is supposed to be GTX 970M?

 

Hmm, maybe it is. I hope not because I want my GS60 with a 980M, dangit.

I was going from the image Cloudfire posted ( http://i.imgur.com/8cvo61P.png) - I'm not informed myself. I stand to be corrected.

I'd be very, very surprised if there wasn't a GS60 model released with a 980M though, given they had the balls to put an 880M in one already.

 

Careful on the Asus gx500 definitely get a solid review first, the nx500 it is based on very possibly has the worst cooling system ever conceived. It is possible they will fix that with the gx500 but make sure they did first.

 

A 980m in a GS60 seems highly unlikely. Power limitation and thermal issues. I plan on upgrading to a 980m. Anyone interested in my 780m?

 

How?!

I'm hoping that they don't EOL my 9377 so there is an official bios update for the new cards and a chance to upgrade directly through xotic/sager

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So, should I finally break the combo and NOT buy a Sager for the fourth time in a row once the 980m launches? Honestly, I'm pretty happy with them minus two things: The heat and the noise. But, then again, those also aren't issues that I'm willing to throw an extra $500 to solve which seems to be the markup when going MSI.

 

If you notice there are two other 970m runs at a lower clock speed with MUCH higher scores. That low score could have been a complete fluke. I had a similar thing happen when I was trying to find the best OC for my 860m. I was inching the clocks up and them BAM, it went from really nice scores to a horrible one.....then I realized my AC cord came out and it was running on battery for that run. Not saying this is the case, but it's a possibility.

 

It's a reseller in my country, Vietnam. I did call them and they told me the thing will be on my desk 3 weeks later if i order now
Guys, say Hello to Maxwell =D

 

To my knowledge, the only time this happened was with the D900F because they released the 480M for it about 2 months prior to the X7200 releasing. Each time a card refresh has happened, there's been a slight revision to the systems for the last few years. Look at it: HM Fermi --> EM beginning kepler --> SM 2nd kepler --> SM-A 3rd Kepler

 

quick question: once we see mobile maxwell revealed in the next few days, how soon can we expect to actually be able to buy a laptop containing it? do some laptop brands move faster than others?

 

Prema seems to think it's a possibility as well based on the fact that there is nothing new from Intel. The SM had 4930MX, 4900MQ, etc while the SM-A had 4940MX, 4910MQ. With no updated processors from Intel, it would make sense to keep using the current models and just swap the GPUs. No development costs.

The fact that the leaks came from current Clevo machines including the P370SM-A gives me hope.

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Maybe. We'll see I guess. Personally I just want a working laptop. =(

 

scan have tried 2 more pairs of cards and it still throttles.. i have had no laptop now for 2 months.. they asked me what i want to do, wait for next gen cards or have a full refund. Seeing im paying monthly through scan i cant have the full refund option so i said i will take the card upgrades when they come!

 

Hmmm, that run was a misrun for sure.
The benchmarks from Videocardz show that a GTX 970 @ 1051MHz (stock clock) scores 10282. So if I should guess: Major throttling caused by power target and such because they went too far for what the vbios allow

MSI use the same prefix for their notebooks, but the specs differ across the different type of notebooks.
Take GS60 2PE for example. It features GTX 870M.
GT72 2PE however have GTX 880M.

2QE for GS60 is GTX 970M.
2QE for GT72 is GTX 980M.
2QD for GT72 is GTX 970M.

wow congrats man. Thats gonna be a huge upgrade. Good to see them taking responsibility for their lacky GTX 880M. After all, I dont think it cost them much

Yeah, but we finally get to see what GM204 can do. Thats enough for me for a couple of weeks. October is getting closer for each day

Yeah I agree. Allthough I`m sure GTX 980M wont be that far away from 870M in heat, MSI gotta take care of power draw and cost as well. GTX 980M for sure will cost a pretty penny over the GTX 970M. Either way the 970M will be a huuuge upgrade over 870M .

GT72 is for sure on my to-buy list. Looks like a solid built notebook for sure.
The fans move a lot of air and create very little noise, so if you want that, it may be worth the premium. Also another cool feature aboutn MSI GT series is that you can control the fan speed by using a nice little community made tool.

 

was gonna say looking at the other benchmarks they have been close to one another, that one is the only one that dosent fall in the line with the rest...

 

Why do they keep prolonging the release?! Weren't they supposed to announce it yesterday and today...?

 

Yeah there was suppose to be a paper launch today.
Plans change I guess. Just human nature. Nvidia will be in 5 different towns across the world, plus live streaming on September 18th, so big things like this needs planning and stuff for sure.

 

wow thats amazing. MSI is lightning fast at getting new tech for sure. If not the fastest.

I guess the quote above answers that lol.
But in general I expect October availability for most brands.

I think MSI have ditched GT60 and concentrate around GS60 and its 970M. GT70 and GT60 have reached their lifetime. Now its GT72 and GS series that matters. I guess a GT62 might come eventually. Not sure when.

2QE is nowhere to be found for GT60 in the MSI database
See here: http://amigo.msi.com/specification_black.aspx?Model=GT60

 

Hmmm. If they can upgrade your machine to them than Clevo must have already let them know a BIOS update is coming for that machine otherwise they are talking out of their behinds unless they will build you a whole new machine for them to run in.

Best of luck man. Here's to hoping Clevo decides to update all of our bioses.

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they already talked about reshelling into a diffrent laptop.. i said that wouldnt fix the problem with the 880m rofl. weather its this laptop or a diffrent shell i dont know. i just want a laptop!!!! 3 months of ownership and i have used it for gaming twice.. well i say "used".. not really coz it was slowing down and jumping.

BRING ON THE 980m SLI! ill be the test pilot for overclocking

 

i just found this link that would confirm that GTX980m will work in clevo P370sm-a

Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4940MX CPU @ 3.10GHz,Notebook P370SM-A

 

I don't get why the CPU is not recognized... there've been valid results with that CPU already.

Also, WHY DOES nVIDIA STILL DO 5000MHz MEM BANDWIDTH. COME ON! THE DESKTOP CARDS HAVE LIKE 7000+ ALREADY! Good lord nVidia we know they work at over 6000 so stahp it >_<

 

YEEHA. GTX 970 GPU-Z screenshot.
I feel positive that our GTX 980M will have identical specs (except core clock/VRAM clock)



http://videocardz.com/52259/galaxy-geforce-gtx-970-gc-pictured

 

These were the 3 notebooks I found that were used for 970m and 980m benches:

Notebook P17SM-A
Notebook P15SM-A/SM1-A
Notebook P370SM-A

 

you are correct! i was just too lazy to post all the links and selfishly posted the link most relative to me lol sry guys

 

Its small lol

 

Really? I did have an MSI barebone with 680m and I could have sworn i saw some with 780m.... Maybe they just stopped producing them I guess?

Yeah I definitely thinj GT60 was ditched in favor for a new model most likely GT62. Just as GT70 was ditched for GT72. GS series are here to remain too but I seriously doubt there won't be a GT62. Maybe they are waiting until launch of 980m to make a new GT62?

Excellent find A great and believable spec upgrade for a new arch. I can't wait! Although I do wish memory would be higher than 1250mhz haha.

 

^It says 1753 MHz?

 

Here is the GM204 die
Also, wccftech says the TDP for GTX 970 is less than 150 W. So we are in a better situation than the 600 series

 

I love those clock speeds.

 

What's the size of the die ? Also if its less than 150 W than we should have a huge overclocking overhead

 

^Not sure if serious...

GK104 is 294 mm^2. This will be bigger.

 

Galaxy GeForce GTX 970 GC pictured | VideoCardz.com

note the standard version is 2x6-pin power connectors (75w max each)
the galaxy version possibly factory overclocked is 1x6-pin + 1x8-pin (75w+150w)

I doubt they would need to up the power connectors unless its standard was already near 150w. Anyone know how close it would have to be to require more for reasonable overclocking potential? Though I guess anything under 150w is pretty impressive to begin with so its likely near the 150w max.

EDIT: Or wait doesn't the Pcie provide up to 75w itself? Why would they need to add more power to it? maybe to power the cooling? hmm think this may be meaningless for estimating power after all.

 

More headroom is more better. Overclocking can shoot power consumption through the roof. Even at stock, intensive applications can cause the card to hit its power limit and thus not fully Boost, so you'd need to raise Power Target above 100% to get your full clock speed.

 

Well if the they decrease the power the same way they did on the gtx 670 to gtx 680m and since the 970 is lower than we should have a good overhead. Well depending on the tdp but since the power draw is the maximum the tdp can be , it is usually significantly lower

True but we might a lot more wiggle room than we did in Kepler , but if the 970 is already less than 150 W then then the 980m will be lower so the overhead should be pretty good even with over clocking.