And two weeks ago i bought a gs60 with a 870m. It was sucha good deal 1200 instead of 1800. Only games i play are diablo 3 and cs go. Maybe i can sell at the realease of maxwell for the same price i bought it. 970m is so tempting but is it worth 600 extra ?
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The gpu is soldered. I think im gonna sell if the new gs60 is available.
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But I want a new notebook. If I cant sell this one, Im stuck with Alienware and cant go to MSI :/
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Cant wait to see the 980M light up a 5K3K 27" Imac in december.
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Looks like my calculation about GTX 980, GTX 980M, GTX 970 was spot on. I missed GTX 970M by 1SMM.
Techpowerup have posted the specs
GTX 980 specifications:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980 | techPowerUp GPU Database
GTX 970 specifications:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 | techPowerUp GPU Database
GTX 980M specifications:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M | techPowerUp GPU Database
GTX 970M specifications::
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M | techPowerUp GPU Database
Also big chances that a full GM204 will arrive as GTX 980MX or something like that in 2015.
This means that Nvidia have plans for both 2014 and 2015 until 16nm Pascal takes over in 2016.
We got it figured out :thumbsup:
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Hello everybody!
I've been following this thread for a couple of months now, and I'm really excited to see those new cards. But I have a question, do you guys think that the new maxwell cards will solve the problem of heating in thin laptops like the GS 60 and make it more attractive? And In my country there is a resseler who sell clevo laptops like this one LDLC Bellone XA3-I7-8-H10S-H8 (XA3-I7-8-H10S-H8) : achat / vente PC portable sur ldlc.com, what do you think about it? There are no reviews for these laptops, sadly. Do you think I can trust them for the cooling, screen?
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Please stop. Maxwell runs quite cool, this is true. The maxwell 860M is, for mobile users, a very strong card, and is very overclockable. The new maxwell chips that would go in form factors the maxwell 850M and 860M targeted are not going to be leaps and bounds ahead of it in power for the most part, but the 970M and 980M chips WILL be leaps and bounds ahead of the current flagships we have. You will notice the power gap a lot larger than it currently is. There must always be a sacrifice. You're hardly likely to cram a 970M or 980M etc into something with a very thin form factor and keep everything else. Also, if a GS 60 has an 860M maxwell in it and still has heating issues, the new maxwell chips will not change that in the slightest.
If you're considering a Clevo system, I suggest trying to find out the actual clevo model. If it's a W230SS or a W350SS or whatever, you can google reviews for that and find quite a few. Clevo has some of the better cooling out there, especially for its price, but it isn't the best on the market really. The internals also make a huge difference in how cool things run. It's difficult to get a haswell i7 under heavy load at its max turbo boost to sit at say... 70 degrees celcius. It's far easier to get an ivy bridge i7 to do so. But haswell's all we have now, so... gotta make do with what's there. -
Contacts in the industry perhaps? They are always the first to post reviews of new cards plus have a news section, so they are pretty informed about stuff most of the time.
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Nope, you are correct. GS60 use Kepler GTX 860M.
Aka severely neutered 128bit heater
GTX 860M Maxwell is much cooler (and faster). Should benefit thin machines greatly.
In fact there are good chances the GTX 970M will run cooler than GTX 860M (or atleast equal) while being lightyears ahead in performance. Sick huh?
(Probably a reason why MSI will have GTX 970M in the upcoming GS60 machines)
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Ah great! Then there is a chance! We will see
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My reasoning for stating that:
GTX 760.
1152 cores @ 1033MHz
170W TDP
GTX 860M Kepler
1152 cores @ 915MHz
TDP?
GTX 970
1664 cores @ 1170MHz
150W TDP
GTX 970M:
1536 cores @ 993Mhz
Less cores than the desktop chip, lower TDP for the GTX 970 than GTX 760. Should mean lower TDP for GTX 970M than GTX 860M.
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Very true, though I seriously want to see a full GM204 chip in a 980MX. I think that's the chip I would want to get. Even if it was 120W TDP, it should still be a bit cooler than the 780M. So far GM107 has ripped GK107 to shreds in OC-ability, heat and TDP, right? I say GM204 should do the same to GK104 =D
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Im not sure how far people have managed to OC the 860M Maxwell, but I think its close to 1300MHz lol. A ton higher than Kepler could do for sure. Will be extremely interesting too see what GM204 can do. But looking at stock GTX 970, I think we should atleast reach 1200MHz. Crazy
Full GM204 for sure is tempting, but waiting to say June 2015 for that is a non option for me. Been waiting too long already.
But isnt it crazy that a 970M can offer probably over 2x the performance of a 860M Kepler while still output less heat? I mean, I know I would be pissed if I just got a GS60 and read about a GS60 a month after getting 2x the FPSKillerinstinct and Babtoumi like this. -
Look at my signature. That's what I run with my 860m in games and I have read many that do better. It rarely hits 80c with that over clock during gaming.Cloudfire likes this. -
1350MHz? Holy cow.
Surely you are close to a 870M with that clock?
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It works at 1340MHz gpu and 2685Mhz mem (+243 gpu, +180 mem) for all games I've tried. I have several that I have not had problems with running as high as 1352MHz for gpu and the memory up to 2755Mhz. (+255gpu, +250 mem)
The 3DMark11 score of P6284 was with it set at 1340MHz and 2685MHz.Cloudfire likes this. -
is it correct that we can consider the 980m to be equivalent to a desktop 970? if so, that's amazing performance to put in a laptop.
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Here is a benchmark from the new upcoming Asus G751 (15") with i7 4860HQ and GTX 980M.
Notice the graphic score vs the one below
Here is the "old" Asus G750 (17") with i7 4700HQ and GTX 880M.
(Poor suckers that bought this one recently. This will be hard to see for them)
Apparantly the new Asus G-series will be called G751 (15") and G771 (17"). I said earlier the new 17" from Asus with GTX 980M would be called G760. Sorry about that. But atleast I kept my word about specs and that a new model would arrive :thumbsup:
Someone should probably make a thread in the Asus subforum about it, The Asus boys will probably appriciate that. I`m too lazy to be active in different threads at the same time
IFA: Nieuwe gaminglaptops: ASUS G771 G751 | Hardware.Info Nederland
Video here: Asus G751 anteprima IFA 2014 • Ridble - YouTubeAny_Key, Mr Najsman and Demike like this. -
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Holy an Asus 15"?! >:O! The palm rest keyboard isn't brushed aluminum! *Smashes his buy button*
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See attached picture. I tried to have it embedded it in the post but I must have done it wrong
On edit:
Added my Firestrike extreme score and my best 3DMarl11 score.
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Welp, looks like I need to save some money for some eBay 980m's when they come out.
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Ther is one problem with new ASUS laptops though
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The new king. Today's scrape sees a dramatic improvement in scores for desktop 980 SLI
Code:ID Bench Date GPU Score Core/Memory Driver CPU Mobo [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2734193]2734193[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 970 11312 1,140/1,253 9.18.13.4405 i7-4790 MSI Z97 GAMING 5 (MS-7917) [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2733255]2733255[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 970M 7334 924/1,253 9.18.13.4400 i7-4710HQ Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. MS-1773 [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2733602]2733602[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 970M (x2) 6332 924/1,253 9.18.13.4400 i7-4710HQ Notebook P375SM-A [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2733641]2733641[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 970M (x2) 14778 924/1,253 9.18.13.4400 i7-4710HQ Notebook P375SM-A [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2733501]2733501[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 980 5745 1,127/1,253 9.18.13.4405 i7-4770K ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. Z87-A [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2737667]2737667[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 980 (x2) 11317 1,127/1,753 9.18.13.4397 i7-5960X ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X99-DELUXE [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2737384]2737384[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 980 (x2) 11479 1,127/1,753 9.18.13.4397 i7-5960X ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X99-DELUXE [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2736492]2736492[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 980 (x2) 12856 1,127/1,753 9.18.13.4405 i7-3960X Extreme Edition Intel Corporation DX79SI [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2736538]2736538[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 980 (x2) 13608 1,127/1,753 9.18.13.4405 i7-3960X Extreme Edition Intel Corporation DX79SI [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2736519]2736519[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 980 (x2) 13627 1,127/1,753 9.18.13.4405 i7-3960X Extreme Edition Intel Corporation DX79SI [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2737161]2737161[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 980 (x2) 15590 1,127/1,753 9.18.13.4405 i7-4930K ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. P9X79 WS [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2737965]2737965[/url] 09/12/2014 GTX 980 (x2) 16847 1,127/1,753 9.18.13.4397 i7-5960X ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X99-DELUXE [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2737876]2737876[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 980 (x2) 17029 1,127/1,753 9.18.13.4397 i7-5960X ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X99-DELUXE [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2736508]2736508[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 980 (x2) 17211 1,127/1,753 9.18.13.4397 i7-5960X ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X99-DELUXE [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2736590]2736590[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 980 (x2) 18009 1,127/1,753 9.18.13.4397 i7-5960X ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X99-DELUXE [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2736542]2736542[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 980 (x2) 18697 1,127/1,753 9.18.13.4397 i7-5960X ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X99-DELUXE [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2736227]2736227[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 980 (x2) 18934 1,127/1,753 9.18.13.4397 i7-5960X ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X99-DELUXE [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2736576]2736576[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 980 (x2) 20955 1,127/1,753 9.18.13.4405 i7-3960X Extreme Edition Intel Corporation DX79SI [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2736645]2736645[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 980 (x2) 20965 1,127/1,753 9.18.13.4405 i7-3960X Extreme Edition Intel Corporation DX79SI [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2736671]2736671[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 980 (x2) 21019 1,127/1,753 9.18.13.4405 i7-3960X Extreme Edition Intel Corporation DX79SI [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2736562]2736562[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 980 (x2) 21028 1,127/1,753 9.18.13.4405 i7-3960X Extreme Edition Intel Corporation DX79SI [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2737688]2737688[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 980 (x2) 24923 1,127/1,753 9.18.13.4397 i7-5960X ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X99-DELUXE [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2736801]2736801[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 980 (x2) 25069 1,127/1,753 9.18.13.4405 i7-5960X EVGA INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD 150-HE-E997 [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2736781]2736781[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 980 (x2) 25114 1,127/1,753 9.18.13.4405 i7-5960X EVGA INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD 150-HE-E997 [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2736515]2736515[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 980 (x2) 25195 1,127/1,753 9.18.13.4405 i7-5960X EVGA INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD 150-HE-E997 [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2737362]2737362[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 980 (x2) 25223 1,127/1,753 9.18.13.4397 i7-5960X ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X99-DELUXE [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2736489]2736489[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 980 (x2) 25300 1,127/1,753 9.18.13.4405 i7-5960X EVGA INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD 150-HE-E997 [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2733582]2733582[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 980M (x2) 7464 1,038/1,253 9.18.13.4400 i7-4940MX Notebook P370SM-A [url=http://www.3dmark.com/fs/2733505]2733505[/url] 09/11/2014 GTX 980M (x2) 18540 1,038/1,753 9.18.13.4400 i7-4940MX Notebook P370SM-A
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I wonder why the scores for GTX 980 sli range from 11317 all the way up to a massively impressive 25300 when they are all running the exact same core and mem clocks
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I believe Hynix vRAM is indeed the better one. I think the Samsung vRAM is lower quality; and that's what Clevos use. I could be way wrong though, but my 780Ms appear to have Samsung vRAM.
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Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!
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You can check their specs here:
http://component.iiic.cc/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1011185
http://component.iiic.cc/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1011183
I did push my RAM once to 1500 (+250/channel - 6000MHz total vRAM speed) and it was stable in the beggining. I had to run my GT60 on coolerboost all the time however as temps peaked at 94°C on normal fan speeds and it was a bit noisy in my house running like that (I live in a small house). Once a certain threshold of heat was reached it started crashing. -
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Ah yes, I did remember seeing that actually. Always kind of felt like I had wanted a 780M from MSI at that point haha. But I was more thinking about the 860M maxwell chips. Hynix RAM seems to do the best for them, and the samsung RAM from clevo models don't. Just what I remember from the 860M is a beast thread, and I was simply saying I think Clevos use samsung as I remember my 780Ms having samsung RAM
Brace yourself: NEW MAXWELL CARDS INCOMING!
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