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    Brace yourself: NEW MAXWELL CARDS INCOMING!

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Cloudfire, Jul 14, 2014.

  1. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    Well throttling or not, they perform like they perform.
    A modify vbios does not qualify to be used as a example for the GPU.

    GTX 780M and many other cards also did benefit from a modified vbios with GPU boost disabled and with more voltage to increase stability.
     
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  2. Ethrem

    Ethrem Notebook Prophet

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    You don't have the cards so you don't know what you are talking about. Please don't make assumptions until you have actually used the cards.

    Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
     
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  3. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    Are you really gonna start another discussion about your bloody GTX 880Ms?
    There are ton of examples on many reviews that the GTX 880M perform like it should on various tests, ie between 954 and 993MHz. Which is exactly what the GPU boost does and what the official specs say it should do.

    A modified vbios that remove GPU Boost, increase power target and voltage, thus "forcing" it to stay at 994MHz does not qualify to be used as an example.
    Period. It was not how Nvidia designed it.

    Does there exist some bad apples among the cards? Absolutely. But the scores was gathered from short benchmarks which notebookcheck have posted ton of times that have no throttling. If it was some throttling here and there, well so be it. It is how GTX 880M perform. The fact that the GTX 880M scores was higher than the GTX 780M scores, means that the little extra they would gained wouldnt have matter that much anyway.

    Time to move on, to Maxwell. I hope those who do have difficulties with their cards get a refund or a 970M/980M replacement :)
     
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    Again, you don't know what you're talking about. Setting the cards to 954MHz still yields higher scores than the stock vbios. Get off your high horse.

    We wouldn't be all ticked about the cards if they ran at 954MHz like they are supposed to and you aren't very observant if you haven't figured out that is why we are so upset yet.

    Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
     
  5. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    LOL tell that to owners of the 765M, a great card that's supposed to be faster than 580M/675M but only wins in synthetics, not actual games, because it gets bottlenecked by its memory interface. Heck, it'd be faster than 770M if it had a 192-bit bus and a little higher memory clock.
     
  6. Cakefish

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    Hmmm... very well then, it's a dual between MSI GT72 and Gigabyte P35v3. Which notebook will claim victory over my wallet? Let the battle commence!
     
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    The p35 might have a 3K screen , I really do hope the gt72 gets a 3K screen as well lol I would get the gt72 , since the p35 will have a soldered gpu. That's my take on that one
     
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  8. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    :p

    Post that on their facebook wall and see if they respond.

    I also want 3K. Or 4K. I`m even willing to settle for 1200p. Just...something worth celebrating
     
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  9. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    It is my new mission on this forum to make a post you will give me rep for instead of telling me I'm wrong. I WILL DO IT.
     
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  10. octiceps

    octiceps Nimrod

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    Done.

    10char
     
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    ericc191 Notebook Evangelist

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    Only problem now is going to be the jacked up prices. Watch Gigabyte try to charge $2000 for that P35v3.
     
  12. cr0bar

    cr0bar Notebook Geek

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    Here's hoping the 980M will work in the Clevo P170EM, that coupled with a CPU upgrade ought to see me through for a couple more years.
     
  13. D2 Ultima

    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    REALLLYYYYY *goes and has a shower where the world makes sense*
     
  14. James D

    James D Notebook Prophet

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    Till it's your day hurry up writing smth like "Now I will try to write a post for which you will send me a 100$ payment instead of repping me! I WILL DO IT!".

    IMO Worth a try. :rolleyes:
     
  15. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    That's easy, you just need to tell him something he doesn't already know.

    Oh wait...
     
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    D2 Ultima Livestreaming Master

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    Sadly I think that would get me banned somehow XD.
     
  17. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    So now that we know that
    = GTX 980M

    = GTX 970M

    But what about the last one?
     
  18. Killerinstinct

    Killerinstinct Notebook Evangelist

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    Gtx 985m :)
     
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    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I'd say there will be another card released next year, like you also suggested. Probably a GTX 990M in Q2 2015.
     
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    GTX 995MX, 120W TDP GM210 800MHz core 6000MHz memory 384-bit mem bus 12GB vRAM 20nm

    :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
     
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    12 GB, lol its gonna be 32 GB :) also have the arm chip as well
     
  22. Cloudfire

    Cloudfire (Really odd person)

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    But why list it in July 2014?
    A bit too early for a May (ish) GTX 990M don`t you think?
     
  23. Kevin

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    Won't see another new card until 20nm. If it's delayed, expect an upclocked rebrand first.
     
  24. Ningyo

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    NVIDIA_DEV.1619 = NVIDIA N16E-GX-B =
    have there been -B suffixes on previous chips ever?
    could it be MXM/soldiered versions?
    otherwise probably 985m (990m or 960m would likely be something other than GX since the 970m is different.)
    Extremely unlikely but 20nm version.
    could also be a version with a different bus width or some added feature on it or something.
     
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    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Nah, not too early. It would be too early to release another card before Q2 with the 980M coming out in October/November. That would be a Q1 release, which is less than six months. It could be something else, too. I'm just guessing...
     
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    No, I have never seen the B-suffix before. Almost look like a place holder, or indeed a different version or something close to N16E-GX.
    Its weird.

    I don`t think they will release a better card than GTX 980M for a while, so listing it now is strange.
    20nm version could make sense. But again, so close to this release?

    Yeah I have no idea

    lol just no. We wont get any bigger chip than GM204 :p
     
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    I HAVE A DREAM! A DREAM OF GM210 20nm PROCESS IN A LAPTOP! WEEEE~

    Yeah you're right I'm just meowing around =D
     
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    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I am also guessing Q2 because I'm assuming they want to get things back on track in 2015 for 2016 Pascal.
     
  29. Ningyo

    Ningyo Notebook Evangelist

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    Looked down the list on wikipedia and found:

    GeForce GTX 670M = GF114 (N13E-GS1-LP)
    GeForce GTX 675M = GF114 (N13E-GS1)

    GeForce 8200M G = MCP77MV (DDR2)
    GeForce 8200M G = MCP79MVL (DDR3)

    None of the other changes in RAM, or xx5m had similar changes though. Looking down the list the code names seem rather arbitrary. Sometimes multiple different GPUs will all even have the same codename x20m, x25m, x30m, x40m type thing all sharing the same name. Other times the same GPU may have multiple codes.
     
  30. vanfanel

    vanfanel Notebook Consultant

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    If it follows the codename naming convention of N15E than it would probably be 960M

    NVIDIA® Geforce GTX 880M (N15E-GX)
    NVIDIA® Geforce GTX 870M (N15E-GT)
    NVIDIA® Geforce GTX 860M (N15P-GX-B)
     
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    ding ding ding we have a winner.
    So there have been a GX-B before. Well spotted :thumbsup:

    So there you have it people. GTX 960M coming up like previously speculated :)

    There are 2 different GX-B listed
    So yeah, probably GTX 960M. Just like desktop get 960, 970 and 980. We shall have 960M, 970M, 980M
     
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    Very very unlikely. On the other hand, it is not inconceivable for 980 (desktop) to be in the 150w-160w range. Thats high for a laptop but I bet an Asus G750 could cool one for example. Not sure if anything specific would prevent using one in a laptop though I bet the motherboard and heatsink would need at least a minor redesign.
     
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    That makes sense. Let's just hope it's not a rebranded 860M.
     
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    Even though I was just messing around, I DID specify 20nm maxwell. I think if GM204 is this efficient, low-TDP and cool right now, then a full chip with the die shrink may be plausible. But I was really going overboard lol.
     
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    I hope it's the 960M and 965M.
     
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    For sure not a rebranded GTX 860M.
    It should be GM204 as well. :)
     
  37. tlprtr19

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    Lol

    2015 - 900 rebrands
    2016 - 20nm
    2017 - Brace yourself Pascal cards incoming!
    - Speculations -
    2018 - 20nm rebrands
    2019 - Damn!

    Nothing Personal. It's just good Business - Nvidia :D

    PS: This post is a "satire"
     
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    J.Dre Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    There won't be 20nm in 2016. That is when Pascal is going to launch.

    900M "rebrands" suggests they have already released 900M cards, and they haven't. So, no re-brands for 2015 either.

    Google "NVIDIA GPU roadmap" and look at the updated one. It clearly says Pascal is 2016.
     
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    I must have gotten lucky. That and the modded vbios really does wonders for my card.

    My everyday overclock for gaming is 1137 core and 1450 memory.
     
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    It was a joke man! Chill. Besides 900M are coming out by 2014 Oct based on what we know. Also Nvidia GPU roadmap did delay Maxwell earlier because of unforeseen issues (TSMC) :p
     
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    OMG, well I`m not gonna be responsible of digging up all of the Pascal news then.
    You can do it :p

    Yeah I dont think you are the only one either.
    Happy that you are satisfied with it :)

    What you think about 970M/980M?
     
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    Someone estimate that die size :D

    Edit: I think it looks to be around 400-450
     
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    It's gonna be a very cool bugger with that reduced die area!
     
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    That GTX 980 picture looks fake. Look at the 780Ti, and then look closely at the 980 image - the 8 in the "980" is weird and looks crooked, and the 0 looks smaller than the 8.

    [​IMG]

    Bad Photoshop job? All of the numbers and letters in the GTX 780Ti are uniform. I question the legitimacy of VideoCardz.com.
     
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    I think 880M has gotten a reputation as a "bad" GPU. I think the ones that have had trouble with it are very vocal about it.

    The two things that the 880M requires to run well are the unlocked vbios and exceptional cooling. One without the other doesn't yield good results.

    In regards to 980M and 970M... people that had the will power or luxury to wait are going to be very happy with those two GPUs.

    I bought my new laptop in April as my old laptop was really getting long in he tooth. Right as I was getting ready to purchase an NP9380 with SLI 780M it was no longer available. I didn't really care for the styling of the new model as it wasn't business looking enough for me so I settled on the NP8278 with the 880M. Nearly got the 870M and I probably would have been very happy with that as well to be honest. 870M offers a lot of bang for the buck. The cost savings for foregoing the 880M could have been applied towards a 970M or 980M. But... nobody could say for certain that the coming 900M series would work in current Clevos. Turns out that it looks like it does. With that being the case I think people that bought 870M have an excellent upgrade path if they chose to take it. I have said that I won't upgrade to 980M. I might make myself a liar. I really don't need 980M, but the new girl on the block sure does look pretty. Time will tell.
     
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    Oh I didn't know 860M was also GX-B.

    Ya learn something every day, on NBR.

    I'm guessing it'll be a leaner version of this rumored GTX 960.
     
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    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    Was just about to say the same.

    And I like how the TDP keeps changing between 170W, 180W, and 190W. I mean c'mon.

    And no I completely disagree with them that 2 6-pin connectors is "more than enough". Just more artificial power limitation that we don't need. PCIe slot delivers 75W, each 6 pin is 75W so total amount of power available is 75W x 3 = 225W.

    Assuming 180W stock TDP is correct, that only allows a power target of 125%. Yep that's totally "more than enough". Good grief. :rolleyes: (fine it's "more than enough" for stock)
     
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    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    An announcement for an announcement. gg nVidia :D
     
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