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just a follow up to my own post:

are there any other companies out there that sell barebones p34 (EDIT: I meant p35, the 15 inch notebook)? i came across the xmg c504 purely by chance a few months ago but im sure there must be others out there

 

The difference between 860m to 970m is much bigger than 970m to 980m, considering the fact the P34 is a 1.76KG with battery+SSD+HD and 20mm thin laptop with big battery 970 already crazy good for it being stronger than 880m already.
P34 was a very safe laptop the gpu max out at 6x~c durning gaming and never reach 70, they didn't fit 870m because it was a MXM gpu only, seems like 970m will have options instead of mxm gpu only, 980m though seems to be MXM GPU only if thats the fact it wont fit in p34 unless they redesign the motherboard (unlikely)

Real question will be, will Razer blade and GS60 add 980m? will it be burning hot and throttle if yes then 970m would be the best combo for thin/light laptops specially if 970m can be overclocked better

 

FIVR made no sense for desktops since the mobo can handle all the voltage controls, but I actually found FIVR great for laptops because now mobile chips gained voltage tuning abilities previously only available to desktop chips. It's just sad that Intel butchered the implementation so badly though, could've been a very useful feature especially for MX chips.

 

I quickly edited my post to p35w but too late. however reading through your post as it relates to the p34 it seems a lot of that i can apply to the p35. would the 980m fit be compatible with the p35, does it support MXM?

 

I forgot to say which notebook this Firestrike Extreme score is from.
It features GTX 980M and i7 4710HQ. You know, the one that was only 4% from a desktop with GTX 780...



Want to know what type of notebook that can harvest all that power?



A very thin one...

 

The 980m will be in the p35 for sure there are leaked images cloud posted

Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4710HQ,GIGABYTE P35V3

Model will be called GIGABYTE P35V3

Are you sure? maybe another model, this is simply insane
it's a 19mm laptop lol

 

No I am sure. Look at the link. Asus GX500JMC
A very thin 15" notebook that also happens to have 4K display that will benefit greatly from that GPU.

Will be one beast for sure. Have your wallet ready

 

If the 980M is going to be efficient enough for that, I hope we'll get a more powerful 985M/990M soon after its release.

Though I probably won't be able to hold back from purchasing the 980M anyway.

 

That Asus barely have any heat vents, no way the 980m can run full load without overheating. Even MSI gs60 with 4 vents have heat problems.

 

Then I guess the rumors of 980M being MXM-only are false...

 

Didnt stop it from beating the GTX 880M by 55% or performing like a GTX 780 in a 1440p benchmark now did it?
It have dual fans so its a very capable notebook for sure.

I said it earlier. TDP of GTX 980M will be lower than GTX 680M. Maybe down to 80W level. That insane Asus notebook right there just fortifies my speculations :thumbsup:

 

They actually more space to cool the gpu than gs60, GS60 got terrible fans and badly designed motherboard plus HD slot and 2M2 slots i believe
Asus gx500 has no SSD or HD slots, no optical drive, it has simply 1 M2 Tiny slot, they have the entire laptop besides the battery to put fans/heatsinks on it so they can offer better heatsink/fans

Actually p35g has 980m too and it's 20mm thin so yeah... 980m introduced with the next RB/GS60
Alienware 17/18 owners run to a corner and cry a 14inch light/slim laptop beat their 780m sli beasts

 

Now I guess I'll have to cancel my Disney trip with my kids. "Sorry kids, daddy needs a new laptop"...

If the TDP is as low as it sounds, then we will see a whole slew of thin and lights with 980m in them *AND NOT THROTTLE*. But I'm still skeptical.

 

Here is information about the Asus GX500 if anyone is interested. The GX500 with GTX 980M (oh yeah) will most likely be identical
GX500 - Meet The Coolest Ultra-thin 15.6” Gaming Notebook

lol me as a AW18 owner is also actually interested as well. That thin 15" 19mm notebook will beat my 18" 58mm Alienware 18 by a good margin.
Thats progress right there

 

They must have either fixed the cooling system on the nx500 (throttled from overheating with an 850m maxwell) or put that on a beast of a cooling pad for for the benchmark.

The initial pictures of the gx500 (months ago) did feature bottom vents unlike the nx500 though. In the pictures it did not appear they actually were connected to the fan system or anything, but that was as I said months ago, well before its release.

If they did make its cooling system at least on par with gigabyte's or razer's or such, then the rest of that laptops features looked rather epic to me. And a 980m might not be able to get great FPS on ultra settings for every game in its 4k resolution, but it likely will be able to for some games, and most with only minor drops in the settings.


Edit: checked reviews again seems only the CPU throttled not the GPU though even it looked like it was getting near its limits during stress-tests.

 

I want a g60 or razer with 980m so bad it hurts.

 

This is disgustingly good - if things turn out the way we hope then we're in for a real treat in the thin+light market, not only in the next few months but over the next couple of years with much less compromise from desktop performance, no compromise on portability (and hopefully battery life), and hopefully no compromise on noise/temps either.

Oh the wait has been too long for these kind of machines (years and years...) - they can't arrive soon enough!

 

Why would anyone buy a GX500 with 980m coming out.

They are going to have a stock pile ...

 

980m is fine man. Let's not push the cart before the horse.

 

Here are previews of the notebook
ASUS crams 4K gaming into a sleek and distinctive laptop
Asus ROG GX500 Preview - CNET
Hands-on with ASUS’ Ultra-slim ROG GX500 4K Gaming Notebook - HardwareZone.com.sg

If Asus can with that notebook, Razer and MSI can too. Although I think Asus have the best expertise in cooling. GS series from MSI isnt actually the greatest cooling wise so who knows. I have no experience with Razer to comment on them

 

I thought this was coming out with the 860m?

If this has the 980m = done

But I don't like 4k and fighting with my games with resolution problems.

1080p or 3k down scale to 900p cool.

 

I want this now, right now! 60 FPS solid looking sexy.

I'll pull up to my desk riding deep in my ultra portable 980's spinners!

 

Look back and read my posts. I have linked to the Asus GX500 matching a GTX 780 in 3DMark Firestrike Extreme. Its real, and its coming.
Asus will probably offer several SKUs or maybe they changed their plans.
The GX500 with 980M benchmark was done few days ago

Here is the comparison I made. GX500 is the one with the 980M. Its only 10% from GTX 880M SLI. Yeah I know, totally out of this world. Unreal
http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/757332-brace-yourself-new-maxwell-cards-incoming-227.html#post9776819

 

I'll take the GX500 all day. I thought it was being released with the 860m. Maybe they changed it last second.

Player Player!

 

So they releasing it with the 860m or 980m or you saying that several different versions coming out?

 

Several SKUs (versions) I think.

The 980M model is called GX500JMC. They have probably GX500JMZ (example) etc
Asus G750 comes with GTX 860M (G750JM), 870M (G750J S) and 880M (G750JZ) so it looks like GX500 will be no different

GX500 could have one with 960M, 970M and 980M

 

Yeah it originally was shown at a tech show in June 2014 and its specs gave it a 860m maxwell, I can't find any true information on it since.

The Asus nx500 which is near identical except colors and only a 850m maxwell actually had preproduction models reviewed however.
Asus Zenbook NX500 / NX500JK review - pre-production model

Hopefully they kept all the good, fixed the cooling system and it actually can handle a 980m (oh and they actually release it hehe)

 

They were probably not allowed to list 980M back then or maybe didnt even know it existed at that time

Pretty sure NX500 and GX500 will be very different cooling wise. If not outside, there is no doubt they have done other stuff inside with heatpipes and fans and heatsinks etc. After all, GTX 850M and GTX 980M are miles apart. They just have to

 

Steps to complete happiness.

Step 1 - Nvidia releases 980m

Step 2 - Asus release GX500 with 980m

Step 3 - Purchase GX500 by any means necessary

Step 4 - Turn native resolution to 1080p

Step 5 - Sit back and enjoy 60 FPS on ultra settings

 

Oh yeah, the Asus GX500 with a 980m seems an awesome deal. But, coming from Asus, time until release will be your worst enemy. Does anyone bet it will hit stores before Christmas?

 

Definitely before Christmas, and definitely before Black Friday. Those are the two most important dates in the United States, in regards to sales of goods.

The Senior VP of design of the Alienware lineup said, on YouTube, something along the lines of... "We will have them out before November." So, in accordance to this, ASUS will have to follow in order to compete. But knowing Alienware, they will probably be the last to hit the market.

 

This is the real question, when will we be able to get our hands on them...

While I would like to see most of these including the gigabyte and msi models available in 3 or 4 weeks time, I am worried that with the usual delays some models could take until the end of the year - some could in worst case scenario not arrive till beginning of next year.

I really hope I'm wrong, because time is so important.

Because of this I might be tempted by whatever the first manufacturer/model to hit stores is - even if it's not exactly what I'm looking for (p34gv3 is ideal but I would take any 15" if it arrives first).

 

Expect a ton of new notebooks to be announced after Nvidia have presented the mobile cards.
Before that, none of the OEMs are able to say anything regarding 900M notebooks

Nvidia is in control

 

You forgot

Step 2.5 - Make sure GX500 doesn't set crotch on fire

 

2 days till some answers... :/

 

Hopefully they present both desktop and mobile then yes

 

This is exactly my point of view. Whoever comes out with the slim version of the 980m has my credit cards money first.

 

Even if it means you won't be able to have (more) kids in the future?

 

Yeah. Let's hope Broadwell doesn't burn down anyone's home. Haswell gets pretty close at times, lol.

 

I'm sorry but gx500 isn't gonna cool that 980m. from what I've seen in the NX500 and GX500 pre-production models, these guys are nowhere near that. maybe a 970m at max if broadwell is as good as it sounds, but 980m it's just a no

 

I don't care! Let my laptop catch fire.

Just as long as I'm gaming at 60 FPS I'm good.

if you can't stand the heat get out of the Kitchen!

 

Hope there are good deals on 980 and 970 during Black Friday and Cyber Monday. Itching to get my X99 build done this year. The more I read about the 5820K, the more I like it. Hopefully Broadwell-E 8-core in the future will just be a drop-in upgrade. 980/970 + ROG Swift = match made in heaven. And in SLI could probably handle 4K gaming by the looks of it.

 

nx500 throttles like crazy even with an 850m and a 37W CPU, so how is GX500 anywhere close to a 980m with the same cooling? unless they monster mod the crap out of the cooling, chances of seeing a 980m on the gx500 is like apple releasing a gaming rMBP

 

it's thin alright. You can see the smoke coming out of it from the gpu. Lol

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Actually they might be able to. If you look at the nx500's cooling system it is just insanely stupid. That said it is also EASILY fixed. Not saying as to how good it actually should be, but.

There are two primary problems with it.
1st: the air exhaust vents are blowing up both sides of the screen which causes the air above the laptop to become rather toasty. Then the air intakes are between the exhausts, and only gather in the air above the laptop. This means that probably 30-60% of the air going into the cooling system just recently exited the exhausts, and is still very hot. Even just switching the air intakes with the exhausts alone would likely increase its cooling potential by over 20%. Putting them on the sides or bottom instead would make it even better.

2nd: both the air intakes and exhausts are tiny, and due to them facing making a tight perpendicular turn up the screen; they have terrible aerodynamics. Putting some sort of pass through vents or such on the bottom of the screen panel or moving them to the sides or bottom, or such would relieve much of this problem.

I suspect with minor intelligent redesign of just the vents and fans mounting angle they could improve the cooling by 50-100%. (note this is improvement in cooling NOT reduction in heat.)

 

That made me laugh. Nice one.

 

Cars can still run while smoking why not gpu's.

 

gigabyte has done almost the same thing with nx500, except they opened up the exhaust so that it doesn't blow air at the hinge and actually has a bottom vent, look how well that turned out? it barely cooled the 860m, throttled on a 4710hq, not to mention it also has slightly larger and thicker fans.

like I said, unless they completely scratched the previous design and got a new one, it's nowhere close to a 980m, not even 970m.

 

No matter how much u say its not possible there is still evidence that it exists , we will find out how it runs in the coming months. Who knows they could have stuck liquid cooler on it lol

 

You got it all wrong brah ...

I don't think you understand where we are coming from ... I am getting one of these GPU's no matter what the hell it comes in as long as its slim.

Even if i have to drive around with this to keep it cool!