Brace yourself: NEW MAXWELL CARDS INCOMING!

Gotta love the rumor mill:

GTX 970 official MSRP $299 USD -- WCCFTech
GTX 970 for $399 and GTX 980 for $599 -- Kitguru (and many others)

 

Hypothetical conversantion:
Engineer: a 980m will throttle like crazy in that laptop
Marketing: having a flagship GPU in the laptop will sell like hotcakes just put it in and get us a few good benchmarks
LATER
Engineer: Stupid people in marketing are clueless
other Engineer: ah well easy enough to keep it cool for a couple minutes here just blow this can of air into it during the benchmark. After that its marketings problem not ours.

And then consumers get it and are outraged there are tons of returns and lots of finger-pointing. Similar probably happened with the 880m, MSI GS60, Windows 8, etc... being released.

 

I think such an extreme scenario is unlikely - a company would not survive with that level of head in the sand and internal shenanigans! (Although it does make you wonder what's going on behind closed doors with some of the strange decisions being made with powerful GPU's and CPU's in laptops with woeful cooling!)

 

Precisely.

Without any information on how the benchmark was performed one simply can't draw any conclusions. I mean Mr. Fox posts ridiculous 3DMark scores on his Alienware and it runs extremely cool, but he benches with a portable AC unit blowing cold air into the laptop. Anyone attempting to do what he did without the portable AC unit will only end up disappointed or have disastrous results.

Same thing here, for all we know they could've benched the thing in a temperature controlled room with an AC blowing into it. Plus like I said earlier Fire Strike Extreme doesn't put out that much heat anyway, and is in no way an indication of how hot the thing will run when gaming.

 

No serious company would ever do that. The backslash of a negative campaign that would follow would be too much, even for a big company like Asus.
Neither would they be able to sell a notebook model just because of a Firestrike benchmark.

The GTX 880M problem was not notebook OEMs fault. It was entirely Nvidia, the notebook that featured the chips had fulfilled cooling, power and everything it would take to operate like it should.

Yeah lol the prices are all over the place. GTX 970 will cost somewhere between $299 and $399 but who knows exactly what.
GTX 980 is locked down to reference design most likely and is using the expensive Titan cooler. GTX 970 have all sorts of plastic cards and features much less cores.
So there is no doubt the GTX 970 will be best price/performance ratio. Especially if you go with SLI

 

Oh please... I'm here because I'm including myself in that joke, lol...

I said that just for fun o.o I thought that was clear, sorry if it wasn't

As a consultant I travel a lot, and laptops equipped with the likes of the 970M/980M are the only thing that allows me to game between travels without carrying about 10 bricks in my bag, so I get exactly everyone's reason for buying those.

 

Manufacturers want the thing to melt in as close to 2 years +1 day as possible so you must buy a new one rather than have the option to keep using/sell it (and depress demand for new machines). Marketing departments only care about sales, not warranty claims. Companies these days literally patent designs that seem well built to the untrained unwary consumer but are designed to break under use only a little above normal. Remember the days you could drop cellphones from balconies?

All the posters above about 980M in tiny form factor are allowing excitement to get in the way of reality, I think. If you want today's bleeding edge performance to last, you need to give it space to cool. That's just the way tech's always been, no matter what we label it. I've owned several of Clevos and the ones still standing are the 17"+ with lots of copper and empty air inside...

 

If you think Mr. Fox's benches are good... There was a user a few years ago with an alienware with a 280M. Those cards were 583MHz core, 950MHz memory and 1450MHz shader... This user was able to get something like 850MHz on the core and 1200MHz on the memory and I can't even BEGIN to remember the shader clock... and he was able to stable-ly run benchmarks. But he quite literally put the bottom of a notebook on top an AC vent, and it was impossible to game on. But his benchmarks & validations though... yeah. It *IS* possible they are doing marketing hype that turns out to be worthless. We already know many companies/reviewers/etc choose favoured benchmarks to "show off" how strong their hardware is, especially against the other team.

 

No kidding. My now 9 year old Presario V2000 with an AMD ML-30 that has run into at least a dozen thermal shutdowns still runs to this day (does take 10 minutes to boot and 3 minutes to open Firefox though).

What is this I don't even

 

Too much what if`s and doom here.
Lets just wait and see. We already have a benchmark of a GX500 running a GTX 980M. Thats all we know so far.
Next step will be to see the Maxwell reveal, what notebooks will feature it, and then see how cool this chip runs.

I really dont give a damn. I`m more in to GT72 or AW18 anyway

 

Yeah lol, I used to have a calculator that you could literally throw as hard as you could at a concrete wall and it would be fine. It wasn't even very big. (Has been thrown very hard and hit walls many times, didn't always have a ball handy =P) Still works too, and only minor scratches to show for the abuse (brothers now though).

I admit my scenario was a bit extreme, but companies do similar all the time. 880m released by Nvidia with at least 10-20% having serious problems is not something you can miss in QA, they just released it anyway.

Hard to imagine how Windows Vista and Windows 8 got released in the state they were.

MSI GS60 (in Notebook checks test) had portions of its bottom reach 78 Celsius. If you want to know how hot this is start a pan of water boiling on your stove, let it boil for at least 5 minutes then reduce it to a simmer and wait a few more minutes. Now briefly tap or touch the outside of the pan near water level. That should be approximately 80-85 Celcius. Don't press your finger against it though you could get burns within seconds, and the more pressure you use to touch it the faster and worse the burns will be. (To be fair this is the temperatures it reached under extreme load for a long period, not normal use, but still releasing a laptop that can cause serious burns is pretty crazy.)

 

Just a reminder.
Begins 3AM here. :/

 

SHIELD Tablet 2.0. HERE WE COME, BABY!

NVIDIA be like...

 

I want to buy a 980m laptop in 1:05:30:13

 

Very unlikely

 

Waiting for Maxwell got me like...

 

And to think I'll be in a 11hour flight at that exact moment ....

 

Demand free satellite connection!
Have them send Huang the bills and tell him it was for the Game24 event.

 

It's likely that you can order one tomorrow but actual date of release is OCT 11 according to rumors i read.

 

We did just recently add it. Got a video review done which should be on our YouTube page within a day or two.

The GPU is soldered on so not up-gradable

 

Do you think if I go to the Empire State building and threaten to jump unless they give me a slim 980m laptop do you think they would give it to me or let me jump?

 

Everyone around you would think you're crazy... "What's a 980M?!" "Somebody get this guy a 980M!?"

NVIDIA would be like, "Well, if you jump, you'll never get a 980M. So, whatevs bro." Actually, NVIDIA probably wouldn't even acknowledge your existence.

 

lol nice. I feel you and think you are right.

 

Well at least I do not have to jump now. That would make me feel better knowing at least it is on order and will get it as soon as it is released.

 

Will this laptop have the 980m?

 

Already have a listing with price here in Australia:

$795.00 AUD (or a bit over $700 USD - that includes tax.) As usual, us Aussies get shafted in terms of pricing. So then, how much would you guess the card would sell for in the States?

Gigabyte GTX 980 4GB Early Hands On [Photos] N980D5-4GD | Evatech Blog

Buy Gigabyte GTX 980 4GB Online, Australia

 

What does this mean?

 

So s3xy. My next GPU purchase right there unless AMD responds.

 

Guess that confirms the earlier picture was accurate, so it should have a die size of approximately 380mm^2.

Wonder if the smaller die will have a negative impact on some of these triple heat-pipe cooling solutions? In those, the center heat-pipe will obviously be fine, but both ones to the sides might be beside not above the die. It will still be at most 2-3mm extra for the heat to travel through the copper or aluminum heat-sink, but that might cost them a couple degrees.

 

I wish someone would make non-reference cards that still stuck with the stock blower type cooler. I know ACX style cooling will probably net better temperatures but most of that heat is dumped into the case, and since I have my CPU radiator + fans on top I fear for my CPU.

 

MOAR pictures of the 980 & 970:

More GeForce GTX 980 and GTX 970 cards pictured | VideoCardz.com

Colorful iGame GTX 980:



2 x 8-pin PCI-E connectors, probably for overclocking?



Colorful iGame GTX 970:



Galax GeForce GTX 970 GC (apparently GALAXY chopped off the Y in their name):



MSI GeForce GTX 970 & 980 (budget reference coolers?):



ASUS STRIX GTX 980 (who look like they're sticking to 2 x DVI, 1x HDMI and DP):

 

I'm building a new pc. Should I just buy one or should I buy two for sli?

Or should I get 2 new titans with maxwell and have quad sli?

 

Is that an MSI barebone?

 

LOL cheap plastic blower is the odd man out. Only good reason to get that is to water cool it. Nvidia's reference magnesium alloy blower looks and performs way better.

New DirectCU II cooler looks nice. But I really don't get all these triple-slot coolers, seems like overkill given now efficient Maxwell is.

 

no it's one of those barebones from quanta

 

I've never heard about quanta, how are their build quality?

 

quanta is an ODM, the quality depends on how much they get paid. you can get build quality from a crappy dell to a macbook pro, all depending on the $$

 

Can't find much on that Phantom X1 yet, someone said thin. Looks to be about 30-32mm thick to me from the picture. In my mind about the perfect thickness for a portable gaming laptop, enough space for cooling but not truly bulky.

No clue on what they used for their cooling system or anything though, I would wait for a review on it even if it comes with 970m/980m. Just never know the quality of keyboard, display (though it is IPS), sound, noise level, cooling, etc...

 

benchmarks for the last 24hours ...The one outlying high mark for GTX 980 looks like a glitch. It had the highest core clock but the details in the 3dmark report showed

Graphics Test 1
156720.81 fps

 

What laptop is going to have 2 gtx 980m's?

 

The Clevo and Alienware SLI models at least.

 

Ugh. Bank account is gonna hurt when these come out...

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I mean this is pretty self-explanatory

don't expect much from it

this phantom x1 used to be a private model for thunderobot 911 in china, but now I guess it's released as barebone. In china it did have an IPS screen though, keyboard is mediocre, sound is mediocre. the placement of the trackpad is a pain in the a$$

 

Ouch single heat-pipe crossing both CPU and GPU to the one fan. Not exactly a great looking cooling system there, they may have modified that though.

Ah and wasn't that far off in my estimate only 29mm thick (not 30-32mm)

Yeah definitely wait for a review on that one though.

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Um how is this thread not in the most active threads list, it has had more replies in the last 5 days, than every single thread listed have total added together.

 

I mean like I said there's nothing much to expect from it, most things are mediocre, got an IPS (don't know if that will stay for US models), the cooling is already a modified version, the pre-production is basically the same thing with the center not connected so it's two heat pipes total with independent fans.

I remember the time that we had to call thunderobot out for being a complete idiot. they eventually changed it, but it wasn't much better

 

I know it's wishful thinking, but is there any chance 980M would fit in current laptops like the M17x R4

 

I would bet it will, but you will likely need to move pads around on your heatsink to fit the chips, you would need a modified BIOS so you could turn off integrated graphics, and you would have to use modified NVidia drivers (modified inf). But, there's no 100% guarantee it will work even after doing all that; for example, the 770M wasn't compatible with the M17xR3 yet the 780M was compatible - sometimes there are weird almost unexplainable incompatibility issues.

 

Do you think we could ask the Americans to switch their timezone for the next couple of days? It would be appreciated across the pond.