Brace yourself: NEW MAXWELL CARDS INCOMING!

If they can get rid of the additional frame latency, it'll benefit all SLI owners not just Rift users.

 

Calm before the storm now.

 

I wonder if a baby will be born at the event? Usually all public gatherings this big a baby is always born.

 

Sleep is for the weak!!!

 

I know how you feel, but I'm gonna wait until I see the SLI scaling numbers. And let's all hope that $329 price is true.

 

Maxwell info to feature near the start, middle or end of the event? What's the most likely?

 

Regardless of what goes down, two GPU's is the absolute limit for me. That's a rule I'm never breaking unless multi-GPU drastically improves for the better in the future. Two-way SLI is already a crapshoot as it is, above that and law of diminishing returns kicks in hard. Imagine playing a game which doesn't support multi-GPU (an increasingly common trend nowadays) and having 50% to 75% of your rendering muscle just sitting there twiddling its thumbs. I'd much rather get stronger cards (GM200/210?) than add a third or fourth mid-range GPU.

 

will a p570wm be able to support sli 980m's? and if so, will the 880'ms be easy to sell?

 

lol dude that's what I meant, especially since the leaked benchmarks show only 166% scaling on 2 way SLI. If SLI scaling is absolutely horrendous in games I may have to hold off for a bit.

 

My eyes are shot. I need a Matrix connector.

Prema has aluded to making this work on 1xxSM models.

 

Personally if I were to ever build a new desktop in the future I'd still never go multicard, even if settling for lower performance - single card is brainless and always works, SLI/xfire always has problems with something.

 

That's probably due to immature drivers, especially if last-gen GPU's had no issues in the same benchmarks. 2-way should never be that bad unless the app flat-out doesn't support SLI. 3- or 4-way on the other hand...

Perhaps if a GM200/210 card approaches the performance of 2 x 970 and doesn't cost much more, I can see that line of reasoning. But 970 SLI for $660 with almost 2x the performance (most of the time) of a single $550 980? Maybe it's just me, but that's a no-brainer.

 

If anyone wants to know the memory bandwidth of our upcoming GTX 980M and GTX 970M, here it is:


GTX 980M
VRAM runs at: 1253 MHz
Maxwell factor: 1.33

(1253MHz * 1.33 * 4 * 256bit)/8 = 213310
GTX 980M will have a memory bandwidth of 213GB/s

GTX 970M:
VRAM runs at: 1253MHz
Maxwell factor: 1.33
(1253MHz * 1.33 * 4 * 192bit)/8 = 159983
GTX 970M will have a memory bandwidth of 160GB/s

In comparison:
GTX 880M: 160GB/s
GTX 870M: 120GB/s

If you wonder how GTX 970M with only a 192bit bus beats GTX 880M by 20% that have a 256bit bus in Firestrike and 3DMark11 Extreme, the above is the reason. GTX 980M will truly outshine the GTX 880M in ultra settings in games.

Man this is so awesome. Greatest news ever

 

That's the increased L2 cache at work

 

That and Delta colour compression

http://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2014/09/NVIDIA-Maxwell-GM204-Press-Slides-23.jpg
http://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2014/09/NVIDIA-Maxwell-GM204-Press-Slides-22.jpg

Probably more to it than that too

EDIT:
Yup
http://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2014/09/NVIDIA-Maxwell-GM204-Press-Slides-31.jpg
http://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2014/09/NVIDIA-Maxwell-GM204-Press-Slides-30.jpg

 

Does it reduce image quality?

 

Funnily enough, just a couple hours after I read your comment the most impressive thunder storm in years just happened to arrive in my area. Thor is certainly keeping himself busy!

 

What the Delta colour compression does is:

Turning this (Compressed):


to this:


It puts more strain on the cores to uncompress everything I guess. I dont think Nvidia would do this if it made the games look bad. But of course, will keep an eye out for future reviews just in case.

 

R343 branch driver dropping with Maxwell gonna enable some new features: Asus 344.00 Geforce Mobile Driver - Guru3D.com Forums

Separate max buffered frames setting for VR (non-SLI):



Dynamic Super Resolution, new upscaling tech advertised as ‘4K quality on a 1080p display’. So some kind of SSAA/downsampling built into the driver?



DSR is Maxwell-only, not sure about the VR one.

 

This looks to be another awesome new feature about Maxwell.
Since 17" and SLI notebooks probably wont get 3K/4K displays this year (damn you display makers), it will be nice to have something to use all the power from Maxwell on. Will go very nicely along with the 213GB/s bandwidth that 980M will have

With MFAA it will outrun GTX 880M with an even sicker margin

 

Do you play planetside 2? Is it a fun game? Been looking for a game where you can actually fly a ship and shoot first person like the old wing commander game.

 

LOL yeah it's fun, just make sure you have a fast PC, especially a CPU with beast single-threaded performance.

PS2 is an MMOFPS not a space sim. I think you're looking for Star Citizen.

 

Star Citizen is a pipe dream been waiting for that to come out forever and they keep delaying launch. I feel bad for the people who bought ships years ago.

will a GTX 980m run it fine because I will be getting one of those in my next laptop or a dual sli one.

i watched gameplay of planetside 2 and it shows you in a ship fighting around. that is what I am looking for and it shows that you can do that, no?

 

Gotta use those extra CUDA cores no?
Colour compression is similar to what's used on the H264 codec with it's B-frames. Store a colour value (frame) and then reconstruct the rest by adding or substracting the individual delta values (difference between base and consecutive frames), each delta value is smaller than a full colour value (especially for a 32bit colour range). That is where we get a substantial reduction on memory packet size.
Regarding that supersampling, get 2-4 identical frames, add them together, creating a bigger interpolated frame and downscale it to a lower resolution. This way a pseudo higher resolution is created, similar to what some software did in the past with nokia symbian smartphones, creating 5MPX fotos out of 1.2MPX sensors. If say your game runs at 60+ frames/s, why not cap it at 60 and put those extra frames to use?

 

I always say I'll get 4 cards. I'll use 1 for PhysX, 1 for forcing 64xQ CSAA on games and just two for gaming. If I have to play a game on 1 card (for streaming or otherwise), then I won't need to use AA (assuming it allows me to force via control panel) and it should run nice and amazingly. Especially with a GTX 980 or a Titan 2 being the primary render card =D =D =D.

Yeah, I have high standards for wanting to switch to a desktop. >_>. ALL OR NOTHING I SAY

 

Because you might have a 120Hz monitor?

 

You do know they release arena commander right ? Lol and I did buy a ship a year ago , not regretting it one bit sure there are bumps in the road but man its a great game and its what I expect in software development lol.

 

@HTWingNut: will you review the P370Sm with 980m sli?

 

I believe it depends on if someone sends him a model to review (and if he can tear himself away from it to give it back :laugh

 

reference GTX 980 OC @ 1449 / 2008mhz
stock GTX980 = 1127 / 1753mhz
29% higher core clock / 15% faster memory

custom GTX 970 OC @ 1468 / 2028mhz
stock GTX 970 = 1076 / 1753mhz
36% faster core clock / 16% faster memory

no clue how stable they were or anything but looks to probably have pretty nice over-clocking potential.

 

SC persistant universe is still ~18months to 2 years from being released, and I'm happy so far with the progress.

To be honest, SC is the only reason I'm holding out for the p34v3 instead of settling with the v2 with an 860m - I was planning to sell on whatever I buy in the next month or so and upgrade in 2 years in any case, but the performance of a 970m compared to an 860m is just too good on paper to dismiss - especially as the cryengine is not the friendliest thing for the 860m to handle.

 

I agree it gives meaning to getting best and greatest hardware for PC gaming. It is finally game that all people who believe that they are PC gamer should get

 

It's an FPS, imagine Battlefield on a much larger scale in a sci-fi setting. You can always try it out for yourself, no risk as it's a F2P game.

Sounds like Witcher 2 Ubersampling, which isn't normal supersampling/downsampling but renders each frame 8 times and uses an algorithm to blend it into a single frame, giving both AA and AF effect.

I'll be getting an ROG Swift, so 60+ FPS will be important and I can forgo extreme AA for a higher frame rate. That stuff gives diminishing returns anyway unless you're doing it to improve IQ in old games that already run at hundreds of FPS.

 

Indeed, it's the only thing interesting on the horizon and the only reason for me to be trying to get the most gpu power possible now.

Looking forward to a thin+light 13/14" laptop several hardware generations on in the future that will be able to run SC maxxed out on a nice juicy 4k monitor or similar. At least the 970m is a step in the right direction.

 

You SC with multicrew ships with holes being blasted into them with their guts leaking all over the battlefield and ship boarding for fps .... Ahh what a dream

 

@htwing
Got me on that
For people who don't own 120Hz+ monitors however might be an interesting feature. We'll see how they play it out driver wise too.

@octiceps
Kind of like that. I'm not too fond of the softness of the resulting image however. Combined with that new shadowing technique and more sharpening/filtering, I hope it plays well. It gives that "blurry almost fading" vision one gets when getting up pretty early in the morning

Might see some great effects though from future games (witcher 3, gta v, arkham knight, far cry 4, assasins creed unity)

 

980 review leaked by ign Review Nvidia GTX 980: Nvidia GTX 980 Review

 

Didn't work

 

it does work, if it doesn't the problem at your end

 

Must be the mobile phone

 

not only import dues, but also taxes. in china consumers don't pay sales tax, so the seller has to take up the price and by the law of econ you know where the price carries over to

 

Does anyone have the live feed link by chance? I couldn't seem to find it in nvidias website.

 

GAME24 : Learn, Sign Up, Check In | NVIDIA

Twitch

 

GAME24 : Learn, Sign Up, Check In | NVIDIA this is supposed to be it... but of course, being nVidia, they're unprepared and their hosts' mics suck and the the website no longer is loading XD

 

About 100 times better than AMD's recent livestream, no GPU equipped popcorn machine's yet though

On the other hand actually an interesting presentation

 

It's On Live!

 

what's with nvidia and grass? all their new tech seem to be involved with grass

 

They explained why , but grass is kinda difficult to simulate

 

I'm was more interested in what it would actually take to run a scene like that. It looked really good though.