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    Brace yourself: NEW MAXWELL CARDS INCOMING!

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Cloudfire, Jul 14, 2014.

  1. HSN21

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    Official prices revealed

    The GTX 980 carries an MSRP of $549, while the GTX 970 will go across the counter for $329. This bumps the GTX 760 down to $219.

    The GTX 970 has an even lower TDP, coming in at just 145 W

    HDMI 2.0 port is particularly interesting, as it is the first implementation of HDMI 2.0 on a display source and capable of driving a 4K resolution at 60 Hz, rather than the measly 30 Hz that HDMI 1.4 managed.

    www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-gtx-980-970-maxwell,27707.html&oq=cache:www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-gtx-980-970-maxwell,27707.html&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.1272j0j4&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8]Nvidia Launches GTX 980 And GTX 970 "Maxwell" Graphics Cards[/url]

    New features too like exclusive maxwell AA new method, new supersampling/downscale from 4K to 1080p monitor that gets superior results than all other current methods that is available with hacks/tools all maxwell exclusives
     
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    Wow, Jen-Hsun Huang is just not a showman what-so-ever... I feel like he is going to give me a surprise quiz afterwards. Where is the chase, and how can we cut to it?
     
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    I like jen-hsun presentation
     
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    Hope the 980M is cheaper, too. Would be awesome.
     
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    Historically they never have been, but every year people wish and hope they will be.

    Prices will remain the same across the board I'll bet regardless of the desktop counterpart pricing.
     
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    Historically they never designed for mobile first so we are in uncharted waters so far :)
     
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    Okay, now we're talking about the moon landing... focus Jen-Hsun, focus.
     
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    Its background information , he building up to the punch :)
     
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    I'll bet the pricing won't reflect that even though of course I wish it would.

    I am always realistic when it comes to notebook GPU price gouging every year :D

    The real problem Is and always will be these high end parts never make it into mainstream notebooks to sell enough to drive the price down far enough.

    People flock to the low end and now middle end stuff which by the way is becoming very powerful in its own right.
     
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    Its not just about grass, the same techniques are almost exactly usable for things like hair, fur, carpet fibers, velvet, etc...
     
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    Why is he even wasting time on moon landing when every scientific person already knows it was fake
    He wont address the big keys and will only address the trivial small questionable things as usual lol
    moon landing happened once many decades and never repeated again for a reason, the master tape by nvidia for moon landing was even lost lmao their reason was "we recorded over the master tape" same with pictures/etc they destroyed almost everything to proof that they landed lol
    USA just wanted to brag we did it first before the russians basically
     
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    Well, nothing really new out of that presentation other than "Yes, this confirms the rumors/leaks the past few weeks."
     
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    I'm bummed there was no mention of any of the mobile GPU's. Well unless I missed it at the beginning, but I don't think so.
     
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    Where's the mobile 980m stuff?
     
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    Lol since they didn't mention 9xxM series , it gonna be around $800 :(
     
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    They will leave that up to the OEMs I guess.
     
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    Launching next month.
     
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    so when can i buy one? my wallet is ready
     
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    a link please
     
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    I'm officially mostly unimpressed with this thing. I mean, as much as maxwell is an improvement, and as nice as it is, the fact is that they have cards in the power class of the kepler flagships that've been already out, and the improvements like MFAA and stuff probably won't work too well in already-existing games, which means it'll need to be implemented in new games that aren't out yet. The downsampling thing is nice though and I could see that being an improvement, but for all we know that's gonna work for kepler too LOL. Can't see why a downsample tactic would be architecture based. GeDoSaTo for Dark Souls 2 proves it doesn't need to be.

    I think the mobile market are the real winners here, with the 980M being so much stronger than the 780/880Ms... as well as probably cooler & drawing less power. But even so, we could have had a full GM204 chip and nVidia didn't so they could rebrand later & resell (or maybe so mobile cards didn't have a comparable card to a desktop's flagship until GM200/GM210 comes out). But hey, at least they're improving on stuff =D.

    Man, I deflated my own hype. I am a sad individual. Cloudfire would not be proud. XD.
     
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    Could be related to the cache size that they can do the down sampling but I dont know
     
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    They have to give you a reason to upgrade every year whether you like it or not.. And yes so many things take years to play catch up in new titles so you think you are somehow future proofing when you buy this new tech but in reality you are not because you will end up upgrading again by the time that new tech becomes relevant.

    Ugg technology......


    They have us strung up by the short hairs.
     
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    330$ GPU perform near 650$ card
    half the power consumption (= much less noise/heat)
    HDMI 2:0 4K 60HZ DP1.3
    NEW AA method that is better and use less power
    much better bandwidth management
    New enhanced Supersampling method with extra filters and all that work with all games
    Some stuff about being optimized for Directx12
    Enhanced for VR if its your thing
    Direct3D 11.3
    HEVC (H.265) hardware encoding

    Not a tiny improvement its a generation jump features wise
     
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    Beginning to think this thread should have been titled.... 'New maxwell Mo..."wait for it"..."keep waiting"..."just one more dune"...bile GPUs coming.
     
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    I still stand by it: they should have released GM200 or GM210 as the flagship, then made 20nm Maxwell in the refresh. That way we'd REALLY have seen some true improvements. And I still think that a cut-down GM200/GM210 could be put in mobile to a greater effect than a full GM204 chip (see: maxwell's version of the GTX 780. It's super cut-down GK110, but still far outstrips GK104) because of how much more efficient maxwell is. Maybe with a same heat output and power drain as existing full GK104 mobile chips.
     
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    The 980M should be as fast as the 970 with modded vbios :)
     
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    A very relevant EVGA GTX 970 FTW review !

    Matches and even slightly beats 780 Ti in most games/benchmarks (except Tomb Raider) even at 4K! Can still overclock without overvolting and just edges out a reference 980! Holy farting Batman!
     
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    9000 Engineers and 3 years of work? I'm so glad i returned my laptop.

    Now I just need to buy a new one.

    I hope they announce the 980m.

    He is coming back on right?
     
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    one of the Mobile Slides shows
    Asus G751, MSI GT72, Clevo P150 having 980m (no surprises)

    MSI GS60 970m

    Aorus x7 970m SLI (Nice to see a refresh coming out right away probably)
     
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    features-wise it's incredible, I don't deny this at all. But I'm looking at flagship vs existing flagship. The 970 is super bang for buck and stuff, don't get that wrong... but the BEST maxwell can offer (now) is still comparable to the best Kepler can offer, and with the price drops Kepler is gonna have, it won't be as night-and-day as we think. I mean, there's no real reason to buy a Kepler GPU anymore, sure, but it's more like there was a sidegrade going on.

    If most of the features were implemented and used right now, that'd be great. But DX12 is not out yet. DX 11.2 isn't out, far less 11.3 (at least to my knowledge). VR implementation, cool, though I don't have an occulus rift, unfortunately. H.265 encoding is gonna be nice, I won't lie, but I'll need to re-render in h.264 for uploading purposes (as far as I know). The AA method is not as impressive to me as SMAA exists, and would be better to put into a game natively than using MFAA (and has less of a performance hit still) and there is no evidence to suggest that MFAA will be force-able in pre-existing titles. Some games let you, some games don't. BF4 and BF3 are two games that don't let you force/enhance/override AA for example. Killing Floor lets me.

    In other words, right now, the only real advantages are for Occulus Rift, HDMI 2.0 & DP1.3 (which you probably won't find a monitor using for a while) and less power consumption. And while those are great, it's not really a... reason... to jump up and upgrade.

    I'm being a bit pessimistic, but I can't bring myself to jump around going "wooo nVidia is the best!". I know there's an improvement, but for desktop world I think they should have launched with GM200 as the flagship
     
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    Damn the x7 is already a slim laptop and running these 2 in sli, the 970m is a cool card yet perform like a beast.
     
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    Gtx 980 can best the 780 ti,



    http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/nvidia_geforce_gtx_970_and_980_reference_review,17.html

    Look at the over clock slide as well:
    http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/nvidia_geforce_gtx_970_and_980_reference_review,28.html
     
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    Just grab EVGA's GTX 970 FTW if you want 780 Ti performance for cheap.

    Also, TechPowerup has a very nice and detailed review on GTX 970 SLI performance. Scaling gets better at higher resolutions, and at 4K approaches 100% for most of the games tested. WOW
     
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    at least this launch event is still cool. if we compare this launch event to amd's most recent one, I would call this a huge success. now I wonder what nvidia has for a 980ti or a gtx 990
     
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    That's true so wait for gm200 or get 980 and OC them :) lol its simple anyway you look at it maxwell is far superior to Kepler even at the same lithography node. also I don't consider the 980 as the flagship since its not the gm200 therefore.
     
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    Is it over now? We just going to watch people build machines?

    Is that Asian dude coming back on and announcing the 980m?

    When can I buy my laptop?

    GX500?

    Help!
     
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    It's not even live I saw the mouse cursor move some and it was just a video playing. They just have videos going.one after the other ...
     
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    That's called twitch , they using twitch on twitch player :)
     
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    Any websites have a 980m laptop listed?

    GX500 980m?

    Anything?
     
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    Wait till October , they should be listed by then
     
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    Dammit I need to finish my build faster! brb managing cables -_-
     
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    with gtx 970 matching r9 290x head to head and more OC potential, I think AMD is completely screwed this time. unless they are willing to drop r9 290x to like $300 or else... and even then they are still taking a loss...
     
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