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    Brand-new Nvidia 675MX shows up?

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by takuo, Sep 26, 2012.

  1. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    this below explains my thoughts

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    Anyways, back on topic. OP, can you give us a rough date when will this card be available in the Clevo/Alienware (dell)/MSi systems?
     
  2. niffcreature

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    Dude, thats a longer version of what I said in the first place, I'm the one whose absolutely right.
    Also Premas post was in my thread so obviously I read it, and hasn't laser cutting has been going on forever? I thought thats what makes a 9800m GT differ from a 9800m GTX. So much old news lol.
     
  3. Krayz

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    Nvidia just feels bad for the Asus G series users (Toshiba Qosmio users are irrelevant). The 670m must have given them an unforgettable buyer's remorse, they should have looked at Notebookcheck first. I just hope Asus will start using cards that aren't midrange. They love using midrange cards so that their notebooks can be "cool and quiet".
     
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    niffcreature ex computer dyke

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    So your saying there wont be any standard MXM versions. Hmm, I kinda doubt that. Hey maybe I have one, I've got 2 untested (and prerelease) gk104 cards right here.
     
  5. Cloudfire

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    You could softmod Geforce cards to Quadro earlier and get the same performance I think
    Its not a simple laser cut that separates 9800M GT and GTX. 9800M GTX had more shaders than GT. Two different GPUs
     
  6. Cloudfire

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    LOL what?? Tell us more. :)
     
  7. hackness

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    Last time it was K5000M, what's it this time? :D
     
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    I was just saying, I thought they were GTX 680m and the 1st one wasn't, so who knows?

    They all have different vBIOS... but I think the vBIOS numbers are similar enough that they're probably all k5000m. Also no SLI connector. I guess some could be k4000m or something.
    Makes me wonder how the company I bought them from was right about them being gk104 with 1344 shaders and 4gb gddr5. They must have some strange testing procedures.

    Anyway I don't understand the difference between laser cutting and disabling shaders. the 9800m GT and GTX are both g92 which is technically the same gpu core, am I wrong? Just like how those ES 6970m didn't have the shaders disabled or laser cut so people were flashing them to 6990m and unlocking the shaders.
     
  9. fantomasz

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    Asus should offer G75 Lamborgini Edition with gtx680
     
  10. hackness

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    They'll always go for 1 or 2 steps down from the top GPU, best bet is only 670M, unless they look into GTX 675MX.
     
  11. failwheeldrive

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    I just changed my XoticPC NP9150 order to a 675MX instead of the 675M. I'll have to wait until the end of October for my laptop, but I couldn't be happier. Same price as 7970 but no Enduro? Yes please!

    And a huge thank you to Derek and everyone else at Xotic for changing my order even though it was already sent out for production. You guys are great!
     
  12. Cloudfire

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    Well Nvidia have lifted the NDA.

    The specs are up @ Geforce.com but they are wrong. Here is the correct information. And yes, they are actually both based on Quadro K4000M which I thought 675MX only were. Well to be specific, only the 675MX is identical with the K4000M since 670MX only have 192bit bus :)
    Here is the K4000M if anyone is interested to compare: http://i.imgur.com/4prEx.jpg
    Geforce GTX 670MX | GeForce
    GeForce GTX 675MX | GeForce

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    Good choice. Its probably around 15-20% faster but MUUCH cooler than the 675M :)
     
  14. failwheeldrive

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    Nice! I can't wait to mine!
     
  15. failwheeldrive

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    Thanks man :D

    And 4GB vram is nuts lol
     
  16. jlocs

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    was just about to send my payment in for my np9150 w/ 7970m and then seen this thread, checked the options on lpcdigital website and it says the gtx675mx is the same price as the 7970m. What are the differences between the two and which is the better choice?
     
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    You see 680M on the chart above? 7970M is just slightly below that one...
     
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    Ok, I am kind of a dweeb at this.

    So the 7970 is faster then the 675mx. Are there any reasons to still go for the 675mx considering there might be a enduro fix soon for the 7970m?

    Sorry for all the questions, just anxious to get my laptop and now I want to be sure I am getting the better of the two options.
     
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    7970M is faster, thats for shure.
    Reasons to get the 675MX? Well the two things I can remember is cooler temperatures and Optimus that works.

    Enduro is said to be fixed this month, so if you want the fastest, you should get the 7970M.
     
  20. failwheeldrive

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    this. nvidia cards are generally more expensive for the same performance. the only reason I didn't chose the 7970 was Enduro, and I'm an nvidia fanboi lol.
     
  21. Meaker@Sager

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    670mx could be the gk106...
     
  22. Silverfern

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    gah i can hardly overclock my 675m to that level. i could only push 675m to 4100 on 3dmark 11, but this thing does over 4200 on stock. want it...
     
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    Curious to see overclock potential. With voltage bump could reach 680m stock speeds likely. Of course as usual, I wouldn't let Vantage be any indicator of actual game performance.

    Although on paper the GTX 680m just seems like it should be significantly faster than the 675mx:

    675mx / 680m

    cores: 960 / 1344 (40% more)
    speed: 600 / 720 (20% more)
    memory speed: 1800 / 1800 (equal)
    bus width: 256 / 256 (equal)
     
  24. maxheap

    maxheap caparison horus :)

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    I wonder if 675mx can fit into a single fan system, after all 680m is a very cool working gpu and this thing should be much more efficient in terms of cooling, it would be crazy good if we can get a laptop with the form factor of macbook pro with a 675mx inside (maybe wishful thinking?). would pay easily 3k for it though..
     
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    Anandtech have published a small article about 670MX/675MX.
    AnandTech - NVIDIA Quietly Releases GeForce GTX 670MX and GTX 675MX for Notebooks

    10 points to you Meaker, GTX 670MX is indeed a GK106 :)

    @graz: I`m getting my GT70 this week. Will replace the 680M with K4000M (GTX675MX) and sell my 680M. Its a 1 fan system so I plan on editing the fan controls to lower the noise. It looks like it runs really cold which is perfect, and is enough power for me I think :)

    Bought my brand new K4000M for $500 so got a good deal. It costs around $1500 normally :)
     
  26. SocaJam

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    How does the gtx675m compare to the gtx670mx?
     
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    Should be around the same, maybe ~10% faster. But power draw and heat output should be significantly better.
     
  28. SocaJam

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    Kk thanks R3d! I wonder if the 670mx would be a better value as opposed to the 675m... But aside from that, these cards look pretty neat! Nvidia can lower the price on the 670mx though
     
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    If we see some right potential here the 675MX should out run the 7970M if overclocked with a custom vBIOS.. but then it's the 680M all over again, just slightly weaker

    the thing too choose between is wether AMD actually makes a proper hotfix or not :p
     
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    lol yep, I would still be getting the mx if I could wait a month for it to come. oh well, nothing I can do about it now. *crossing fingers for hotfix miracle* haha
     
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    To catch up to 7970M, GTX 675MX will need to boost the core performance by 58% overclock on the core and 53% on the memory. Good luck with that.
     
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    LOL!!! :D:hi2:
     
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    Well the 680m with 1800MHz RAM performs slightly better than the 7970m. Most vRAM with the 680m can run at 2400MHz (+33%), and likely will be the case with the 675MX. As far as core speed, most 680m can run 900MHz vs stock 719MHz (+25%) with no voltage bump.

    If the 675MX can run at 2400MHz vRAM and assuming core can go to 750MHz, it will be running pretty darn close, granted the 675MX only has 960 cores vs 1344 of the 680m, which will be hard to make up that performance in just pure clock speed. But I bet the MX can get mighty close at all stock voltages.
     
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    Ok? Didn't say it wouldn't, but good luck with boosting performance by 50%.
     
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    i boost purfformense in my 630m by over 9000% urrday hulawafu. 6878795 in 3dmark yo.

    lol
     
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    But it still gets back to the point that it would require a significant overclock to match 7970m STOCK performance.
     
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    It's possible.

    I think, I mean it has been done with the 680M... but that was ridiculousness at it's best

    Either way, the 675MX is a good alternative for people who want good performance from nVIDIA for a cheaper price.
     
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    i am guessing if you do manage to overclock it by 50%, the card might not uhh....live too long?
     
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    And who want a cool and fast performing GPU, but not want the most hardcore of all GPUs like the 680M :)

    LOL yeah. Poor cores are probably exhausted after a month or so :p
     
  40. Karamazovmm

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    my mother!
     
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    LOL great insult :D

    (And that from an IGP user....)
     
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    agreed. It would be awesome if nvidia lowered the prices on their whole lineup a tad. I wanna be a 680m owner lol.
     
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    Or if AMD would just fix there driver problems. The 7970m would be a great value like the 6990m was if not for the whole Enduro issue.
     
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    I'm hoping, man. I've got one in the mail lol
     
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    675mx specs looking good, 75w TDP, light overpriced again beast 7970m ( AMD weak up and finish the damn Enduro ! ).
    GTX 675mx is for now my next laptop graphics even if i prefer AMD and wanted 7970m.
    Do you think will be possible 675mx with AW m17X R3?
     
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    The r3 isn't available anymore, it's the r4 now. I'm sure the 675mx will come to the m17x eventually, but you are better off getting the 7970. You can turn of Enduro in the BIOS on Alienware laptops. The 7970 in an m17x pretty much matches the performance of a 680m.
     
  47. Mobius 1

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    Ah, so that's why the 7970M performs without issue in the M17x R3/4's
    And I'm assuming the Clevo BIOS doesn't have this feature?
     
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    You are correct. The Alienwares also technically have the Enduro issue, but they can bypass it with the hardware switching.

    Clevo, on the other hand, made the mistake of trusting AMD's word on Enduro functioning properly. Oops.

    I guarantee their next machines have the mux switch built into them, as a failsafe.
     
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    That is correct.
    Clevo / Sager went with a muxless system so its all automatic, but AMDs Enduro is still not mature enough compared to Optimus.
    AMD is working on a driver to fix it though.
     
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    LOL yeah, Clevo is going to have a hard time trusting AMD ever again.
    Probably not too expensive including a mux really

    680M is pretty cool running, 675MX with almost 30% less cores is extremely cool, considering the great performance. Fermi got nothing on this card :cool:
     
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