http://www.100fps.com/how_many_frames_can_humans_see.htm
http://www.daniele.ch/school/30vs60/30vs60_3.html
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge" - Charles Darwin
because game objects have SHARP edges, it is possible to tell the difference between 60 fps and 30 fps
in movies, they can play at 24 fps because the pictures are already blurred, thus your mind sees it as smooth motion
though this effect will probably be lessened by the intense blurring effect of crysis, it would still probably be subtly noticeable.
and SLI generally has very poor scalability compared to cpus, generally in the order of 1.5 to 1.7x performance despite 2x or more in price (cpu scaleability ranges from 1.8-1.9+)
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I find it cute when a new game is announced and all the gamers run out and buy the latest and greatest just to play that single game. Dude common, the game is gonna work on as many systems as possible. Do you know how many sales they'll loose if you need an entirely new system to play a stupid game?
Game developers always push the line on every new tittle but not as far as forcing 85% of the users to do a mass upgrade to a like what, $2300 dollar system? (FYI, I just pulled that price off the top of my head)
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exactly...if the game makers market games that only play on uber high systems they'll get crap profits. and for the person who says 60fps is detectable, you should go do some research about how the eye operates...detecting 60 Frames Per Second....thats 60 individual clips per second...your eye would almost completely miss is as a very quick blur.
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furthermore in a game like crysis if you focus on the edges and not the game itself you'd be shot...real quick
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I know very well how the eye operates, thank you very much. 60fps is definitely detectable. Please read the links provided and do some research of your own.
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at 60+ fps with a good refresh rate you would not notice the difference. and furthermore like i said before, when playing a fast paced game would you really be worrying about a little blur or slight "jaggedness"? i just want to enjoy the darn game and as long as it plays well and looks good...im ok with that.
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no one focuses on the edges of objects in game
its just that AA gives the game a more realistic game play experience
you're more immersed in the game, everything looks sharper and realistic due to the smoothness of objects
i love aa
EDIT: and for the last time, you CAN tell the difference between 60 and 30 fps
"Some people have a gift for stupidity, an almost mystic ability to withstand any form of logic" - David Gemmell -
well of course im not going to disagree that aa would give a much sharper look and would help to improve the overall quality but, as mentioned before many times, no graphics card is able to play it with everything turned on so until such a card comes out wouldn't it just be better to not argue about something that isn't within our reach and instead just enjoy what we have? an odin243 i did not mean to be offensive in any way or manner and i did read and would agree that more fps would in fact improve the quality if the game does not have motion blur.
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i think dual 8800 ultras OCed will at least run it at max all settings (in dx9) and at least 4 (if not 8)x aa and 16x af
i think the creators meant that no gpu can run it maxxed out at dx 10
you're right in that motion blur lessens the effect of fps in crysis and probably haze and all the new games that have it.
but too much motion blur = motion sickness
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Framerate detection varies from person to person regardless of what any science says. It also depends on the game too. Each person's perception is different, whether the eye detects it or not, some people notice it (or really care) and others it doesn't bother them even though it exists...
I've played many games that seem smooth as silk and when running FRAPS am completely surprised to find out that it is running at 30-40 fps only (Bioshock comes to mind). Other games show 40-50 FPS and seems like I can notice the "flicker" between frames (Far Cry comes to mind).
Film is analog, and as such creates a real-time blur which looks like real-life movement. PC's are digital and have to display distinct frames. I used to be a stickler, thinking that I needed 100+ fps and all the bells and whistles on, but usually I can find a fair medium where it looks about as good, and performs well, on average hardware.
Developers/publishers unfortunately think in terms of profits. But the good thing there is that means they will do their best to support the lowest common denominator. -
from 30 to 40 definitely noticeable difference but from lets like 60 to 70 probably less difference although still some
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Correct, over 60 the difference is more complicated, and depends a lot on your screen's refresh rate.
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coincidentally, i wonder if anyone has dual 8800ultra and tried played it with everything turned on and settings maxed...
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guys, no disrespect, but i think we all get what u both try to explain
let's try create a server just for nbr memebers and all play together and against each other, what u think? my nick in the game is BiG_V, if anyone is interested. -
ITS BETAAAAA DERRRRR no wonder theres problems
Oh btw... Why is 8800 struggling and not 8600.... wow
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The Forerunner Notebook Virtuoso
8600 is struggling. WHo said its not?
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Because clearly the 8600 is superior. An 8800 just won't cut it these days.
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I thought that the blurring and depth of field etc... just messed up pixels or put ultra low settings on them (DX8 like) so i youd get more realism for more fps...
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WHAT?!?!? 8800 is less betterthan 8600 WTF!?!?!!?
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is anyone actually interested in playing the game instead of discussing the same crap over and over and over again? seriously...
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Heck yes I am!!! Im just trying to figure out how to play it at highest settings I can
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what's ur config?
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Can someone with a Go7950GTX tells me what settings I should use? For some unknown reasons my game is always choppy at medium settings at any resolutions (I've tried 1280x800 or 640x480 but they all perform the same...
)with around 30fps. I even tried putting everything (including sound) on low at 640x480 and even at that resolution it still lags random although FRAPS says it's running at around 60fps (I have vsync turned off and I'm using the 163.71 drivers). Every other games out there run fine on my notebook so I have no idea why this doesn't...
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do you have aa/af turned on? at 1680 res you can try med-highish...no aa or af though. and you don't have any additional settings (like have the graphics power on battery saving mode or something?).
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hmm... I have no AA or AF turned on (and my power-mizer is always on full performance, all my other games runs very good at highest settings) and this game runs like sh*t...
I've tried all medium settings at 1680x1050 and I get 18-20fps all the time...
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is it playable at all, or does it lag like no other?
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Crimsonman Ex NBR member :cry:
do you have the new beta 3 thing?
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When I put everything on lowest at 640x480 it's playable but looks very bad and sometimes it just randomly lag. If I try medium settings at 1280x800 then I get around 30fps with constant lag and I would say it's not very playable...
And I should have the beta 3 version...
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hmm...that's weird. i have a 8600 and can run it in 1280*800 all medium. the fps are not good, but it doesn't lag that much at all.
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Crimsonman Ex NBR member :cry:
its is a beta after all, for testing...
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anyone tell me where i can download the demo
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Crimsonman Ex NBR member :cry:
there is no demo yet, only a beta, which can be found on fileplanet.com
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i've also tried it on velocity micro c90 ultra with 8600 and it doesn't lag on 1280 res
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am i correct in saying once i make an account on fileplanet i will automatically get sent a key for this beta?
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Crysis is in beta testing right now so i suppose they will tweak the engine and the overall game in the actual version to play a bit better. most likely the requirements will be like 1gb ram, 2ghz processor, and anything above 6800 nvidia to play it on regular...thoughts?
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Crimsonman Ex NBR member :cry:
im pretty sure, as long as you click download and then download it.
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on regular like what? i don't know, it is possible in the dx9 mode...dx10 should be a different story, however.
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yes i mean in dx9, i think the "required" requirements will probably be those.."recommended" will be most likely dx10. by regular i mean you'll be able to play it on probably low res and med settings at like 20-30 fps...some lag but not major...you know how it is with "required" settings.
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Crimsonman Ex NBR member :cry:
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yea you're probably right. we'll just have to wait and see i suppose.
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Crysis is an incredibly hardware intense game, and it is very unoptimized at the moment. With my Go 7950 GTX, here are the pretty-looking but still playable settings that I use:
1280x800, 0xAA, 4xAF
-All settings on medium,
except:
-Sound quality, physics, and shadows on low
-Post-processing on high (for motion blur
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This gives me a pretty solid 30 FPS, sometimes jumping up to 40, sometimes dropping down to 20, depending on the scene. It's still very playable and looks great. -
asking one more time: who is down to play some crysis on our own server?(if, of course, we can make one)
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No user-made servers yet.
They host all the servers themselves (or their partners) so they can collect data to improve and fix server issues before it's released.
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oh, ok....well, we should all meet up one day and play on the same server then
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Thanks for the suggestions!
My game now runs better than before but the motion blur really makes mine lag quite a bit so I turned post processing back to medium.
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hey does anyone here have a fileplanet subscribers account? All the free beta keys are taken and im dying to play this game!!! If anyone is kind enough send me a pm
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Its free now, anyone can beta, just go to file planet
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I'm play crysis on my F3SV-B1 and I'm running it on 1024x768 on medium settings and I'm getting mid 10s - 30s FPS. TO ME, it is very playable and it still looks decent.
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The beta is playable on my laptop with 1280x960 with a mixture of Medium/High settings. I just wish the framerate would be a little smoother...
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Well, youll get those smoother fps when they tweak it and get it out of beta
Anyone think there will be a delay?! I believe so...
For all of those saying Gears of war or any other game you named looks better than crysis.... stop smoking weed
Crysis (on notebooks) - Videos & Pics
Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by Gophn, Oct 3, 2007.