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    Cyberpunk 2077 chat thread.

    Discussion in 'Gaming (Software and Graphics Cards)' started by krabman, Jun 18, 2018.

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    Yeah, I did several play-throughs. I also loaded it back up for testing purposes when I got my latest laptop; they fixed a lot of stuff: Driving doesn't suck as much, graphical glitches are greatly reduced, quest breaking bugs appear to be quelled, etc. If it released now it would be much better received although it's a joke that they tried to mine the legacy console market; no way Night City was going to be the same experience but greed overcame. They can't blame that one on a rushed release, it was always going to be gimped significantly and I don't buy that they didn't know. Right or wrong on that I'm looking forward to the new material when it comes; I'll happily make another round. I was blown away by how much cooler Night City is when you can actually drive around without being overwhelmed by crappy car handling, people falling out of the sky and exploding, all that fun stuff. I found myself enjoying just being a tourist when I was testing. I didn't get that at all when I was actually playing; back then it was a constant battle to ignore all the crap and try and enjoy what wasn't broken.
     
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    I kind of liked cars and people falling out of the sky. :eek: :D
     
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    It's certainly worth picking up if you have a Series X or PS5. For the last-gen consoles, even the One X, not so much.
     
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    You know times are hard when you are asked to sit through what feels like 1 min ads to watch a promo stream, and every time you pause...
     
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    Only 180h so far, but can't wait for more updates and maybe story addons so I could go back.
    Really enjoyed my time in the game, and looking forward to spend more.

    Skyrim 2077 :D
     
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    Proudly 0h so far, not including the fabulous release drama experience :)
     
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    PC is like
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    That's where I'm at. I logged 152h, the only thing I didn't do were the other two life paths and buy all the cars. I'm definitely interested in playing it again once all the fixes and DLC have been released. Couple years I guess, at least I hope they don't outright abandon it.
     
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    That's my feeling as well, except I stopped around 60 hrs after completing the main quest. I'm definitely not upset about the launch as I didn't have any issues that I can remember, however I am growing upset about the lack of DLC. I'd rather play the 2nd time as my "permanent" character with the fully released DLC and that appears to be a long way off.
     
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    Looks like the official 1.3 Patch Notes are up, which means the patch itself can't be too far behind.

    The list is so long I'm not even going to bother trying to paste any of it. The first of the FREE DLC is there, and yes it's small things, think Witcher 3 free DLC. These are not the substantial paid DLC we will be hopefully getting down the road of the Hearts of Stone and Blood and Wine variety.

    https://www.cyberpunk.net/en/news/39092/patch-1-3-list-of-changes
     
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    I don't really see anything i would call DLC. A lot of fixes yes and that's good. I haven't played in a while but I don't remember having problems with things they fixed.
     
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    It's about the same as the Witcher 3 free DLCs..

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    Apparently 1.3 patch was released. Didn't expect it to be out so soon after the announcement.
     
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    PC: 33.67GB
    Like Forbes says in their article this morning, "The problem, of course, is that if you’ve already played the game, there’s not exactly anything to bring you back."
     
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    Well it's a patch for a narrative driven single player game so no surprises there. Once you finish the story you are done, unless you want to replay the game.

    However I was really surprised that my progression on Beat on the Brat quest got reset...
    That was such a tough and horrible fight, and now I have to redo it again...
    Gee, thanks CDPR.
     
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    To me these open ended RPG's are best after you complete the main quest, that's when the game really starts for me anyways. Tons of side quests, places to explore, things to collect, continue to level up, that's the progression that I enjoy the most. In a perfect world I would never "start over", rather I would continue to play the same character forever. A few games have infinite level ups that I swear were made just for people like me :D Skyrim/FO4/Dying Light to name a few.

    In reality however I do end up starting over after patches change the game or maybe I forgot what I was doing and just want to start a new character. That's why I do like new game + modes where it resets some things I can go through the story or side quests again if I chose to but without losing all my progress.
     
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    Well I'm gonna try it out after the update finishes. I'm in the middle of my 4th game that I need to finish anyway.
     
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    Can't say for other games in this small list, but Skyrim has finite amount of quests too. It does come with so called "radiant" quests (I suppose so does Fallout 4), but I don't count them as proper quests as they are randomly generated using same pattern. The only saving grace for me in game like Skyrim is mod support. Without mods the game would be really not that good...
     
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    Yes you are correct, however in the many hundreds (thousands?) of hours I've played across those games I've never ran into the point where I literally had done everything except some sort of repeating quests. I honestly don't even know which ones they are as basically every quest in any game becomes a "go fetch this" or "go kill this" at the most basic level anyway. The fun for me anyway is the journey, how I get there and how I handle something and constantly progressing in some way.

    Ironically I refuse to use mods in any game, they always cause me more work when moving to a new install or a mod updates or becomes out of date. Also feels like cheating to me personally, I prefer to play the game as it was designed and intended. I just enjoy the vanilla games nowadays.
     
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    I almost forgot how to play and I forgot how much fun it is. Especially on a new laptop. I used to play on GFN which was okay but not this good.
     
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    When I first played the game I walked to the nearest fast travel or drove to it if walking was going to take too long; I greatly disliked the driving. When I was testing recently I found the driving improved enough that I drove everywhere and it changed my sense of what Night City is, made it seem like a place instead of a fragments of a place connected by fast travel. That and a lot more graphical HP transformed the place for me, brought it to life. As I said previously I think I get where they were headed with it now and it all works better. I'd be curious to know if you get the same?
     
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    Has anyone played this on the new X170KM? I'm curious as to how performance would be. I have the 170 with a 3080 and !7-11700.
     
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    I haven't. I played it on the one in my sig I bought recently. All the settings maxed, DLSS quality. 45 fps and up. Temps in the 80's on CPU.
     
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    I think I've finished Skyrim like 3 times now. Between Oldrim and Skyrim:EE I have like 870h in them. The last playthrough I did as Alchemist + Ranged.. I was actually pretty surprised at how many things about the game I had forgotten. I think I'm done replaying Bethesda games. Too many other games to play. I don't even want to think about adding up hours for all the Bethesda RPGs.. wow.

    I'm definitely going to play CP2077 again, but it's going to have to wait until all the DLC and patching seems to be done.
     
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    That looks like either it'll be surprisingly good or straight garbage. The hilarious part will be when they somehow cobbled this together using the exfiltrated CP2077 codebase. (kidding there's below zero chance it could happen that fast).
     
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    Given the middle market's track record of producing games that are generally above average at worst, I'm cautiously optimistic about this one. It certainly has a long way to go but as long as it doesn't take 7+ years to release from the time of the launch trailer, I think it'll be all right.
     
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    still waiting for cyberpunk to lower in price before i buy it as per the recommendations via NBR
     
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    It's 33% off on GoG but I feel strongly that it was well worth full price even on release for me, even more worth it now with tons of fixes and changes that have come out.
     
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    thanks but i dont want gog galaxy

    i have steam origin uplay and epic i dont want another launcher i bought the witcher 3 on gog and never used it as i forgot everything...wonder if steam has an upcoming sale as most of my games are steam 300 plus

    but yeah when i get back from my vacation ill buy the game full price....looks sweet
     
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    You can create a shortcut directly to the game and skip the launcher altogether with GOG. You need Galaxy to download in the first place; after that you're GOG free if you wish. I do it with every game.
     
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    You really don't even need the launcher at all, I download all mine off the website, but I do have the launcher because it connects to all other launchers, its the only one I ever need to use.
     
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    You don't need galaxy for anything on GoG as others have said, I happen to like it but I never run it unless I have to.. much like all of them except Steam I let that load on startup these days but close it out if I'm playing a non-steam game.

    But.. if you are working with a low power laptop with 1650 or something (can't tell from your sig which submodel that might be) you MIGHT have a hard time.. it's very demanding.. maybe search youtube for some examples of people trying to "potato mode" it (I don't mean that in a derogatory way, but in relation to CP2077 it would be true). It could be the patches up to this point have made it more playable on lower spec.
     
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    it will run on medium...i guess
     
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    Unless they've changed something recently when you download a game it also downloads Galaxy unless already present.

    Once you have it that then becomes the easiest way to get patches if you want them. As an example with Cyberpunk I waited for others to try the patches and then simply lit up Galaxy when I decided I wanted them, no having to search for them.

    I personally have the most games on steam but like it less than any other launcher. They've bloated it, force garbage into the GUI I don't want without the option to remove it, they force me to load it to play games, sometimes grab patches even though I have all automatic updating turned off and leave it in offline mode to avoid exactly that. I don't see them as the good guys, I see them as the 400 lb gorilla using it's market dominance to stab me in the back in pursuit of it's only concern, profit.
     
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    dude its a videogame...people made it they sell it....dont like it dont buy it regardless
     
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    I bought it on GOG and the game has nothing to do with the launcher(s). I come from a time when most industries had something called competition, real competition. Don't expect to see me accept the corporate control happily; not in this lifetime.
     
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    oic mis-read
     
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    Yeah that's what I was running on when it first came out, had fps numbers etc up here or the "what are you playing now" thread. 1650 should do like 45fps if you're med with some low settings or just go steps down, between 1080 and 720p for 60 for the most part, doable and hopefully better now with the patches. IMO they needed some meaningful dlc by now, plenty of money for producing it and you can bet it's been written for quite a while.
     
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    I liked the game still even at launch, I would imagine it's much better now. I think the game is definitely worth it at 33% off. It was 150h of fun IMO. Especially for someone that does seem to like FPS (crysis) and has not played it.
     
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    Yes at 33% off and no drm def worth it, I had fun with it about 60-70hrs with a few bugs but bugs usually seem to happen more at higher resolutions and settings. But if you've played it through already at this point or back when it came out the patches don't entice a return to it, only meaningful dlc would do that. It's nowhere near TW3 or Dying Light territory.
     
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    Yeah, I was just speaking in the context of @JRE84 who hasn't played it yet, seems like a decent time to step in now that there's been a good amount of patches for performance and quests.
     
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    I agree with HFM but if you are getting a new rig in the near term as you've been discussing I'd wait until you upgrade. Night City can take all the power you can throw at it and ray tracing and other visual effects are put to good use. You'll also get more objects and populating the city makes a real difference in terms of the sense of place.

    I can say with certainty that going from a 1080 to a 3080 and all the patches made a massive difference. I don't have any way to sort out any one thing among the hardware change and software fixes because I got them all together. You only get one chance to jump into Night City for the first time; knowing what I know now I'd wait until you get your new rig if it's not far off.
     
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    And then there's this....

     
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    Cpdr needed to really invest in qc beta testing and other things rather then the other agendas they have. Use the hollywood celebrity money for development and optimization instead. They didn't need a celeb to sell it after TW3. Also less marketing costs and more costs into the GAME. TW3 was a mess technically at first but the underlying game was/is exceptional, not really so with this game imo. Patches can only fix technical stuff. 7-8 years working on it and we get this? Decent game no doubt but nowhere near what was expected/hyped.
     
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    The word Cyberpunk is a click generator; if you title a video "Roach still occasionally walks in the air", or " They haven't fixed Geralt clipping into walls and getting stuck" no one clicks. That's why you have this video instead of those.

    Cyberpunk and it's release could be the posterboy for the word debacle. No question it's release was a miserable failure; I excuse none of it and place the blame squarely upon senior management. On the other hand these videos pray on human weakness; the desire to pile on due to negativity bias; it generates clicks.

    Cyberpunk is in a much better state than it was at release thanks to the patches. MUCH better. Huge. You almost wouldn't know it though if you got your information from YouTube.
     
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    That's why I stopped watching YTers like YongYea... every single video was a dunk or rant about something, given sometimes warranted based on the subject but it gets old with all the negativity. I tend to try to watch more positive vibe YTers lately. That one I posted above from Matty though, I thought that was an extremely measured analysis that I agree with 100%. They should just stop all the effort into marketing patches and go dark like NMS did. Maybe everyone should also do a Bethesda (though wondering how much MS pushed that Starfield trailer) and just don't announce something until 5-6 months before launch.
     
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    I started playing this morning and will probably play the rest of the day now. Love this game. Maybe they should have just made it for PC and waited another year for consoles.
     
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