Dota 2 Discussion thread

yeah, the only thing about him is that you have to have a competent team with you, or you are SOL

 

I think this statement here is the case for any game. :|

Even fed AM can be chain stunned to death, and I've killed fed AM as a fed Dragon Knight, it's not hard.

 

There are a couple solo win heroes, but the other team has to be somewhat incompetent as well.

 

This seems like something fun to mess around with in a lobby.

Anyone wanna hop on later and see what kind of damage it can do? And tree, I don't think we're friends on steam yet. Add me: steadylurkin

 

Invite sent.

 

Cool.

Had one of those close games yesterday. I was on the radiant side as Tidehunter and our team consisted of Slardar/Furion/Windrunner/Riki. We were against Void/Death Prophet/Zeus/Doom/Invoker. Well anyways, we dominated early game kills, but they dominated early game towers. By the 20minute mark we had lost nearly all our T1/T2s. But we were able to win all our teamfights and we were able to push their towers. I got in a few good blink+ravages in there and our furion was able to counter push while they pushed and he was able to take down their bottom rax and towers, but had to back cuz they started respawning. But it all came down to our Slardar and Riki deciding to solo push, getting picked off, and not being able to buy back. We honestly had a stronger teamfight, but we needed all 5 of us. Really good game though. One of those intense, actually-pay-attention type games. ha

 

IMO your team has a better end game, though it depends on who gets better farm. Even with a fed Void, your team has so many disables, if you live through Chronosphere you should be okay. Zeus is literally useless after mid game, DP has to have a strong carry hero to be effective IMO with huge AOE ultimate. And especially with Death Prophet, your towers will be pushed early, but Furion can counter push MUCH better later on, especially if he goes Boots of Travel with his Teleportation.

 

Yeah we definitely had more disables/stuns that's why our teamfights were better. They actually farmed better than we did, but it was definitely our disables/stuns that won us our teamfights. They definitely had the DPS though.

Was able to get one game in last night and I played as disruptor. Definitely an awkward start to the game. Nyx and I laned against Lion and Axe. Axe battle hungered Nyx and as Nyx was like 50hp, I was trying to hard to deny................................only to find out my chatbox was open [._.]. It almost looked like we were about to lose because we lost t1 towers early and we lost most of our teamfights, but once we started playing 5man dota, we were able to take them down and make our push. Really surprised we won, too. I wanna say my clutch mek heals won us the game. haha

 

Man that all-stars game we had 2 days ago was a disappointment. Completely fed Anti-Mage (me) with Butterfly, Heart of Tarrasque, BKB, Treads, Manta Style and Gem, and I still got chain disabled and annihilated against an extremely fed Drow.

 

I had the same thing happen to me yesterday. Standing at 14/2/10 or something, I had EVERYTHING you could wish for on AM. Yet after a few stuns, I still got annihilated in a few seconds :/ (even though AM still deals such massive damage endgame, it's crazy).

I tried Meepo aswell, but I think the combo to tab between clones, poof on your main Meepo and blink into the teamfight all within 1.5s is VERY hard to pull off...unless you blink first or something (then you're pretty vulnerable though).

 

Played as a support CK last night. Haha. Got all my core items that I like to get on him (armlet, manta, treads, wand, and was working towards BKB) but in every team fight, our Viper literally got all the kills. I was like 1/1/20something at the end. Haha. I think I had the most assists on our team.

Also played more windrunner games and man, for some reason, I was getting my keybinds all mixed up. Missed a lot of shackleshots because I accidentally pressed her windrun or whatever it's called ability.

 

wind runner is one of my favorites. Played as undying got the first time, I did pretty well, 10-9-30 (my team ended up with 50 something kills, so I took part in most of them)I kept getting targeted, so that explains the deaths.

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I mean CK is a real hard carry, without items he is REALLY awful (low mana pool = not too many Chaos Bolts or Phantasm or Reality Rift). I personally go Battlefury on him for the excellent mana regeneration, usually then Armlet, Manta Style, Heart of Tarrasque.

I've seen ganking Chaos Knight as he has 2nd highest movespeed in the game after Luna and level 3 Chaos Bolt has a possibility of a 3 second stun and gives a guaranteed 1 second stun.

 

I had the same results as Undying on my first go around with him. Did really well, but then died a lot cuz of focus fire (even with blade mail). But man, 30 assists on him is very good! He's not really a carry, just more of a nuker and initiator, I feel, so that many assists just goes to show how the opposing team made the mistake of focusing you instead of your guys' carry or support.

I like battlefury on CK, too, but I only go for it if I can't really farm that well. Well, I think a low mana pool on CK is just about right. You don't really need to chaos bolt or rift anymore than once in a fight, maybe twice in a fight, and even then you shoudl still have enough mana to pull off phantasm and manta. But still, I'm a believer that at least one person on the team has to have mana boots.

In that game with CK that I played, I pulled a smart move, but had my teammates all wow'd and them calling it a pro move. haha. I saw my teammate was going 1v1 against Disruptor so I ran in to help. As I got close, the rest of his team came and Disruptor put up a static shield around me. I rifted Disruptor, which pulled me to his position, just in time before he popped his ult in the field, and was able to run away before his team was able to get me. After that, my team was like, "PRO MOVE!!!!" haha.

 

2 0 death games as ganking heroes, Zeus and Nyx Assassin. I must say I prefer Pudge, Nyx doesn't really have an escape but an AOE lined up stun. :|

 

Has anybody tried shadow blade on nighstalker. Just popping invis and going to hunt lone heroes at night seems really fun.

 

It could work, but Nightstalker is so fast at night, it's kind of a waste IMO. You are supposed to max out Void and Hunter in Night first. If they have alot of CC or stuns/disables (aka Intel heroes) you can get 1 point in Crippling Fear. If you can get Sceptre, legal map hacks. Impossible to get ganked and ultimate gank tool for NS IMO.

 

At least at night. SOL if its daytime


Edit: had my first rampage tonight as OD. Pretty cool. Wouldn't have done as well without the omni we had. They kept targeting me so he kept healing me. Good game

 

I don't really mean get shadow blade for an escape, but something to make his ganks even better by bypassing wards n stuff.

 

Good Nightstalkers don't need Shadow Blade IMO. In pub games, nobody really buys wards, so it isn't a huge deal most of the time. Course pro match...well you can watch iG's YYF play Nightstalker. Scary.

 

Been playing Invoker and Pudge regularly, turns out they are the top 2 played heros in Dota 2 -.-

 

Man, if I could play Invoker, I'd play him a lot, too! I've seen a lot of bad invokers (goes for pudge, too) and they don't make invoker seem fun to play, but the good ones (goes for pudge, too) who play him effectively makes him seem fun to play.

 

Anybody got any item advice for Lone Druid, other than rushing radiance.

 

Rush a Mjollnir ._.

 

I've been playing Lone Druid the last 4-5 games and I went with an old build/play style of mine. Pretty dangerous strat but I had a k/d of 22-4 last game and 26-something the one before. You can look up my games "andros2733" I basically went carry LD with a focus on his speed, so never leveled his ult. The key to playing in this style is to have constant knowledge of the area around you and be on more elusive always looking for a gank/ chase situation.

Warding is important so you don't get outplayed by disablers early as you will have very low hp early/mid game. Get Phase boots on LD and regular boots on the Spirit bear as the first items, then move on to helm of dominator.

Grab a neutral from time to time (centaur chief or alpha wolf) to assist in the mid game battles.

After HoD i go Yasha then straight Buriza. By then I should be high up on the scoreboard with smart engagement and focus on chase. There is no hero that can chase as well as LD can with proper attack/moment management. Can easily get triples from team fleeing hopelessly from a battle.

 

Seems that Baka was given 2 extra Dota 2 invites

Jerk mode activated >:3

 

Lol. Mjollnirs alright but not really worth rushing,imo.

Playing Lone druid without his ultimate? Thats different, but it seems like it ruins one of his advantages of being easily tanky.

 

I used to see a lot of people play him with no ulti, not a bad way to go. Of course I used to see people go no bear, and that's just plain stupid. Back before basher got nerfed (years ago) I'd have one basher on bear and one on druid, perma stun to death.

 

Invoker is pretty exciting to play, of course it all depends on the Invoker player. Personally I go Extort Invoker as his base damage is pretty horrible and leveling Extort will help you last hit. Also I think Sunstrike is the most OP skill during laning phase, being chain stunned then having sunstrike being dropped on you is almost a guaranteed kill.

 

-Prods Hime-

Exort

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Baka is absolutely correct. Exort. not Extort.

 

:| God kill me about typos.

Anyways had a support Enigma game where I had highest GPM, XPM and most gold for Enigma. I was 3-1 by 15 minutes, had Blink Dagger.

Anyone noticed horrid lag recently?

 

Baka always has horrid lag

 

Finally got Clinkz down! We had a REALLY rough start, but once I got Orchid, it was over.

Powertreads, MKB, Dadelus, Eye of Skadi, Orchid, and I had 3900 gold end game, nasty nasty. Even funnier when their Sven and Spirit Breaker went Mask of Madness, 30% more damage with 1000+ crit end game damage. GG. 23-1-12.

 

the changelog for 6.76 is out, and it's crazy. all of a sudden sniper is a viable pick. drow has a global Aura and a reworked ult. Centaurs ult completely reworked. silencer gets a new skill in place of Last Word. this is a crazy patch, big changes to how the game will be played.


oh yeah, boots cost 50 less and move 5 ms slower. all boots are slower by 5 ms except for BoT.

 

OH man.....I gotta check that out when I get home....or maybe if I can find an unblocked site that has it...

On a separate note, not having played DotA in a little over a week and being super rusty, sucks. I hope I can get in a few games tonight to work the rust out.

 

it's not on Dota 2 yet, I think they'll implement it on this weeks patch.

 

ahh yeah yeah. I looked it up and found it on reddit on my phone. A lot of crazy changes. It seemed like nearly everyone got some kind of buff, except for rubick...haha. Well then again, he'll just steal everyone else's spells that got buffed and in that sense, he got buffed too!

Kinda scared about that Drow now.....lol. Like someone said on that reddit thread, "now she'll hit like 2 trucks!!"

 

haha yeah. Biggest thing for me is Sniper though. he basically gets a free MKB now with his headshot buff (every time headshot procs, it does full damage to the enemy. It can not be dodged).

 

I think the ministun bonus damage was always supposed to be pure, just like Omniknight's heal, Bane's Brainsap, etc. Is Void's Timelock/Slardar stun/Spirit Breaker passive stun pure damage? I feel like it is.

 

it's not that it's pure, it's that all damage will be taken that hit (including base damage, so say he had 100 base + 90 for lvl 4 headshot, enemy takes 190 damage before armor reduction) can not be dodged.


full changelog DotA Changelogs - 6.76 for your perusal.

 

Has anyone noticed that Dota 2 isn't as fast as Dota 1 in gameplay speed?

 

Dota 2 is a "faster" MOAB (compared to League and Heroes) but ya it's "slower" than Dota 1. You used to be able to do crazy combos with Pudge and forcestaff, just not anymore.

 

It's not "slower". It's the fluid animation that needs to be matched with the timings of Dota 1 that makes it look slower ._.

 

Yeah.. the part that saddens me .__________. so much beauty and all of diz

 

What angers me is last night I decide to go Naga Siren, an annoying Weaver decides to take all the CS in our lane against a Witch Doctor and Necrolyte, so end game I had like no items and he didn't even complete a Linken's Sphere. Just want to facepalm.

 

Reminds me of today, I randomed Riki, then someone picks tiny and tried to take all my cs. Screwed me up early and we lost the game. I was the only player with a positive score on my team.

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Yeah I hate that too, unfortunately Tiny should be mid for rune control. And Riki REALLY needs a good laning partner, preferably someone with an AOE stun, keep Riki alive. Unfortunately he's too easy to counter. :|

 

New update is out! Centaur is added to the game, and 6.76 patch is applied. GG sniper

 

Yeah I saw Dota Cinema video on Centaur, his mini nuke is INSANE along with dat stun. I don't really understand that ultimate...but ya welcome to a non brittle QOP alternative.